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Jon Husted, Ohio’s Secretary of State and a Republican. National Association of Secretaries of State: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ps-voter-fraud-claims/?utm_term=.2278f3f8151a

If mass fraud were true, then they are implicating Republicans in on the fix. Totally ridiculous.

There's plenty of this outside of Greg Phillips, Alex Jones and InfoWars. There is no mass voter fraud. None, nada, bupkis. People who push this are conspiracy theorists and Alex Jones fits that perfectly.
Two liberal publications and biased. Try again.
See, the fact of the matter is, based on your train of thought is, whatever I cite your rebuttal is right wing nut or something along those lines; basically if it goes against what you believe in it must be wrong. Well now I am doing the same. In this manner neither point gets across and it's a never ending circle.
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I accept that my candidate lost. I don't accept conspiracy theories of 3 million illegal votes. Trump won the election, but it appears he's having a more difficult time than any liberal accepting the results of the election. He won, received nearly three million votes less. It's over. Time to govern, right?
At least I can agree on partially that. There were illegal votes whether you want to believe it or not. But I agree with you that he won and it's over.
 
If only apple cared enough about students to pay taxes...

Apple pays exactly the amount of taxes that it is legally obligated to pay. No more, no less.

Do you pay more tax than you need to and then tell the government to keep your tax refund? Unless you do, I really don't think you have a leg to stand on.
 
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Two liberal publications and biased. Try again.
See, the fact of the matter is, based on your train of thought is, whatever I cite your rebuttal is right wing nut or something along those lines; basically if it goes against what you believe in it must be wrong. Well now I am doing the same. In this manner neither point gets across and it's a never ending circle.

In other words, you're on the Alex Jones train. I'm perfectly comfortable knowing that thousands of Republicans who serve as monitors in elections all over the country aren't in on the fix. That's exactly what Trump, Phillips and Jones are claiming. There is no mass fraud and arguing that it comes from a liberal source is just another way to accept Jones as gospel. If it makes you feel better, keep believing it.
 
All of the things going on in our country and your main concern is the refresh cycle of the Mac Pro?

In this moment they're being exactly the company I want them to be.
I want them to be a company that builds great products and fixes annoying bugs like disappearing battery capacity.

I don't know why you would want them to foist their (or more correctly said, their CEO and executive staff) political opinions on everybody. I'm sure a lot of their employees disagree. Do they think they're going to influence US politics because they make electronics? And even if they can, why the hell should they? Now we want tech companies running the country?

Tim Cook wants to continue to blast Trump and our current administration - do it on his own blog, donate his own personal money.

I don't see any difference between Apple spewing out their opinions and Kim Kardashian doing the same.

You crank out iPhones and print a crap load of money. I don't need your political "statements", I have my own, thank you.
 
Has anyone actually ever explained how the Russians stole the election for Trump?
Did anyone ever admit that the Russians caused them to change their vote?
 
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In other words, you're on the Alex Jones train. I'm perfectly comfortable knowing that thousands of Republicans who serve as monitors in elections all over the country aren't in on the fix. That's exactly what Trump, Phillips and Jones are claiming. There is no mass fraud and arguing that it comes from a liberal source is just another way to accept Jones as gospel. If it makes you feel better, keep believing it.
So it's OK for you to cite liberal posts but someone else cites a post that doesn't align with your beliefs then you throw a penalty flag.
Hmmm. So I guess it's not a good source unless I get the "nod" from you.
 
Apple pays exactly the amount of taxes that it is legally obligated to pay. No more, no less.

Do you pay more tax than you need to and then tell the government to keep your tax refund? Unless you do, I really don't think you have a leg to stand on.

It comes from the myth that Apple is hiding money overseas on the basis of keeping money made overseas outside of the US.
 
Clearly? No. He won in three states by a number so small they could all fit into the Rose Bowl stadium with room to spare.
But he won those States... So... does it matter how much he won, when his opponent is expected to win easily, and started packing to move to White House.
 
It comes from the myth that Apple is hiding money overseas on the basis of keeping money made overseas outside of the US.
Myth?

Yeah, sure! And Cork, Ireland is clearly a historical hotbed for tech development which has nothing at all to do with tax incentives. Absolutely nothing.

Keep telling yourself that.
 
Though he has flipped back and forth between the parties, David Duke was a former one-term Republican Louisiana State Representative in 1989. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dav..._in_special_election_for_Louisiana_House_seat

What Democrat were you referring to?
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The burden of proof is on the one claiming the election results are wrong. So make your case.



Duh. Everyone knows who won. :rolleyes: By 77,000 votes.
Never said the election results are wrong. Trump won! BAM case closed. But if you want some proof that some states had more votes come in than were living there or registered look up Detroit. Look up Michigan. There are two you can read up on.
 
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Myth?

Yeah, sure! And Cork, Ireland is clearly a historical hotbed for tech development which has nothing at all to do with tax incentives. Absolutely nothing.

Keep telling yourself that.

And yet none of that is what most people are talking about. It's like when Americans say Apple should "bring the money back to the country" or "bring the jobs back" when neither was from the US to begin with.
 
And yet none of that is what most people are talking about. It's like when Americans say Apple should "bring the money back to the country" or "bring the jobs back" when neither was from the US to begin with.
Shortsighted, and inaccurate justification siding with Apple (why you protect them I haven't a clue).

Those jobs weren't from the US because Apple clearly wants to send them where it costs them the least amount of money.

Answer me this - why aren't CEO and exec VP jobs going to China and Ireland? Surely, the incredible compensation cost savings would be dramatic.

I'll answer you - because all execs care about is protecting their own jobs and wealth. Sure, they'll save the company money...as long as it doesn't impact their own pockets.

You'll probably just say "well, that's good business sense". Good for you.
 
Shortsighted, and inaccurate justification siding with Apple (why you protect them I haven't a clue).

Those jobs weren't from the US because Apple clearly wants to send them where it costs them the least amount of money.

Answer me this - why aren't CEO and exec VP jobs going to China and Ireland? Surely, the incredible compensation cost savings would be dramatic.

I'll answer you - because all execs care about is protecting their own jobs and wealth. Sure, they'll save the company money...as long as it doesn't impact their own pockets.

You'll probably just say "well, that's good business sense". Good for you.

Because, for example, the US doesn't have the manufacturing base or not qualified workforce to make iPhones. We have people qualified to be CEO and VP.
 
That's the dumbest excuse, and I keep hearing it from tons of different people. Nobody should have to "worry" about where they have to pee when there's a bathroom assigned to each gender. If you're a man, go in the mens. If you're a woman, go in the womens. Plain and simple. If this makes someone feel "uncomfortable," then THAT person has the problem.
Laws should ALWAYS cater to the general welfare of the people, not the welfare of a select few. If the idea for a law discriminates against the majority of people, then that law should NOT exist. This is common sense, people.
1. You're right: no one should have to worry about it, but they do because idiots like those in NC and TX have decided to be the legal arbiters of people's personal gender identity. You seem not to have heard, but defining gender is no longer plain and simple, unless you're a right-wing nut job or a religious reactionary who ignores the establishment clause of the Constitutuon.
2. So, it's okay to pass discriminatory legislation as long as it's not against the majority? Beautiful position. By the way, if you're male you're in the United States minority, so I presume you won't mind if they pass a law keeping you out of restaurants and in the back of the bus.
 
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We have to create a transgender bathroom for people to except transgender people. Just like there is a male and female bathroom.
 
Because, for example, the US doesn't have the manufacturing base or not qualified workforce to make iPhones. We have people qualified to be CEO and VP.
Could we build a manufacturing base or workforce? We make Dreamliners, we can make iPhones.

Be honest, it's all about COST. Chinese sweatshop workers are cheap. People in China are qualified to be VPs work cheaper, speak the language, and can run operations there. Instead, we fly bigshots from the US.
It's all about "Protect MY job, screw the peons".

If you don't believe that you're pretty naive.
 
So it's OK for you to cite liberal posts but someone else cites a post that doesn't align with your beliefs then you throw a penalty flag.
Hmmm. So I guess it's not a good source unless I get the "nod" from you.
Alex Jones and Craig Phillips are unreliable as the day is long. You believe there was massive fraud. I think it's conspiracy and to be truthful, Alex Jones is completely off the wall. Nothing liberal or right-wing here. I do not think Republicans who monitor elections in every state are in on a massive illegal vote scheme. That is all.
 
Okay. I really don't want men in the woman's room...no matter what you call yourself. How do you prove someone is transgender and not a per. You don't. No matter how much you butcher yourself with surgery or hormones....you are still what you were born as. You are just lying to yourself if you think anything different. You just can't change your real gender. I wish you could just flip a switch and be different....but the sad truth is you can not.
 
Fact check: Three million more individuals voted for Trump's opponent in the general election.

Fact Check: The US is a "republic" and not a "democracy". We have an electoral college so that heavily populated areas like California won't outweigh smaller but just as important States like New Hampshire or Massachusetts. The country was built on The Rule of Law to benefit the Individual and not the majority. The Founders knew that mob rule via a democracy would lead to guaranteed ruin.
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Clearly? No. He won in three states by a number so small they could all fit into the Rose Bowl stadium with room to spare.

But half of eligible voters chose not to participate in the process entirely. So, your assessment is still falling short like Hillary's abysmal campaign. She couldn't even stoke the Black vote that has voted Democratic by over 95% for the last 50 years. She was a loser masquerading as a contender and those that mattered knew it.
 
Then we are headed for a whole lot of trouble in the future.

Just because you and many liberals don't like the results of an election doesn't mean the system is flawed or doomed. The system still works perfectly fine. It just means you're having a tough time accepting the recent results because it was a "guaranteed win" for so many and you don't like the guy who won. Liberals can sit around pouting and whining for 4 years or they can accept the results and move on for 2020 and make the best of the time until then.
 
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Apple is an American company, founded and based in America. Also where the CEO lives. Thus where most of the talk will be centered around. It would be a little rude for an American company to comment on say, China. Or for a British company to comment about American politics. Or a Canadian one about Mexico.
So, are you saying a person/company can only make critical comments about their home country? That is a bit out there.
 
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