Apple Special Event on February 20th?

[Zadillo]

Leopard in February? I dream so but I don't think so.

I don't think anyone is saying Leopard would actually ship in February. But it would be reasonable for them to finally unveil the "Secret features", etc. that they've been holding out on. I mean, people expected Apple to show these off at Macworld, so February 20th is about time.

I don't know that they would unveil it and then be ready to ship it in March, but who knows.

 

[Zadillo]

Since ADC has been offered. With a student membership you do not receive access to pre-release seeds, however the retail versions of Mac OS X client are shipped as they become available.

Ahh, I didn't realize that. Not a bad deal (although given the cost of ADC Student memberships, I'm still not sure I'd pay for a yearly subscription at $99 just to get the free OS, when I could just buy the OS itself for $69). Not bad though if you are a student developer and can make use of the other information they make available, etc.

 

[Zadillo]

They probably should have held it a little bit earlier to steal Vista's thunder. This might actually be the first OS upgrade I'll buy without waiting until I buy a new computer.

Vista's thunder? Seriously? It seems to be getting a collective "meh" from most of the PC-using population.

 

[ppnkg]

sounds plausible. Apple need to show something mac-related soon, since we didn't get any of that a couple of weeks ago.


Add: UK store is down updating..let's see.

 

[yg17]

The first release of Mac OS X was on Saturday, March 24, 2001. And IIRC, they did arrange for Saturday deliver if you preordered. So there is a precedent. Of course, this was the day OS X was actually shipping, not an announcement/press event.

So, unless Leopard will be shipping that day, a Saturday date sounds suspect to me.

Ah, I stand corrected.

Now, the 24th makes even more sense since it would be the 6th anniversary of the first release of OSX

 

[chubad]

I think they will release a $150.00 ipod case and announce that the iPod boom box is now available in black. You also get a mail in coupon for a limited edition, Apple logo, argyle iPod sock.

 

[Bobthemonkey]

Its probably going to be nothing, or at most a new nike+ thingy.
There was a similar thread running up to christmas - turned out to be a 'christmas buying guide' - similar ungodly hour as well.

 

[Lord Nerdos]

IF this is true, and I repeat IF (the apple events page being updated on their web page would be a good sign) then I will be incandescent with delight. At last my four year old powerbook will get to retire and no more abuse shall it suffer.
Maybe I should order my dell 24" HD display today... It keeps getting cheaper and cheaper on the dell japan website. (They released a 27" display with a new design, so I wonder if they are clearing out their stock in preparation for a new range across the board...)
If you are wondering why I didn't replace my computer in the last four years it's because I didn't have the money. Most of it got spent on fast cars, gambling, and women... the rest I just wasted.

 

[zblaxberg]

Yet everyone is saying Leopard is far from ready.

I have a feeling that its not far from ready but they are waiting for vista to be released that way they wont delay the release of vista if they reveal what else is coming with leopard. I bet it still has some kinks to work out though and a lot of people are rumoring it to come out earlier than it really will....They said spring so everybody just sit tight and be patient. If it comes out earlier than you'll be surprised. Besides its probably worth the wait.

 

[Multimedia]

Hope The 8 Core Mac Pro Will Come With Stoakley-Seaburg

"...with a free upgrade to 10.5". I HIGHLY doubt that.

Wouldn't be the first time they pre-announce an OS and give free upgrades to all who purchase a new Mac between the shipping date announcement and the shipping date. I just wonder if "free" includes shipping and handling.

 

[Bobthemonkey]

ah well, just a MB/MBP buying guide on the UK store.

 

[pseudobrit]

I dont like apple anymore, I dont like the games and waiting games they play with their customers. But I like the products and love my macbook pro. I think I am gonna say goodbye to apple products. I cant take this anymore.

Then buy Apple products and MacBook Pros and stop paying for the waiting games that you can't stand.

Thank God Apple doesn't listen to consumers.

 

[ppnkg]

I dont like the games and waiting games they play with their customers. ... I cant take this anymore.

strange, I thought these waiting games were something we create and enjoy playing... Apple themselves do not usually make any comments on future products do they?

 

[Zadillo]

**** all that. I dont like it and I dont belive it. Wait again for an apple event for months like macworld and then nothing, just dissapointment and all those secrecy makes me sick. We still dont know the top features of the next big Mac OS. I way more would like it like other companies do it. So you know all upfront from the first time they mention a new product and when they add some features they mention it again soon. Its hard to plan and save money if you dont even know when and if it will be worth it or a dissapointment. Apple is playing with their customers and making me mad.

The only thing I like is Apple is looking to be serious about bootcamp with the 40$ or whatever they will charge for bootcamp. Thats good for me.

But since macworld I look at apple different - that was a big dissapointment. They could at least mention something about the mac at macworld. That was so ****ing wrong to not at least mention something about the mac. I was so excited when he started the keynote, with telling how many macs got sold and thanks to developers and so on ... but than nothing, - nothing about the future of macs and than not even saying at which next event he will talk about the mac, wouldnt be as bad but he just ignored the mac.

I dont like apple anymore, I dont like the games and waiting games they play with their customers. But I like the products and love my macbook pro. I think I am gonna say goodbye to apple products. I cant take this anymore.

Umm, it would have been completely pointless for Apple to unveil any new Mac stuff. It would have been completely overshadowed by the iPhone. It would have been a waste and gotten buried.

But you're going to say goodbye to Apple products because you don't like how they handle product releases and product news? OK, that makes sense.

-Zadillo

 

[Chundles]

I have a feeling that its not far from ready but they are waiting for vista to be released that way they wont delay the release of vista if they reveal what else is coming with leopard. I bet it still has some kinks to work out though and a lot of people are rumoring it to come out earlier than it really will....They said spring so everybody just sit tight and be patient. If it comes out earlier than you'll be surprised. Besides its probably worth the wait.

Mate, Vista was sent to manufacturing in October last year and released to OEM vendors in November. It's finished, they can't add anymore features to the upcoming public release.

Leopard will be released when it's ready, it's not ready yet and won't be till probably April. There's yet to be the common ramp up of developer seeds and nobody has even whispered the words "Gold Master" yet - it's still a fair way away.

I really doubt Leopard will get an event for it's release.

 

[buffalo]

Leopard on the 24th? That wouldn't be a bad 21st birthday present for me (25th)

Although, I definitely do question a Saturday release, which the 24th is. OSX has never been released on a Saturday, plus, none of the shipping companies deliver on Saturdays. I think if it is in fact the end of March, it might be the 23rd, Friday, or 26th, Monday

The first release of Mac OS X was on Saturday, March 24, 2001. And IIRC, they did arrange for Saturday deliver if you preordered. So there is a precedent. Of course, this was the day OS X was actually shipping, not an announcement/press event.

So, unless Leopard will be shipping that day, a Saturday date sounds suspect to me.

Also, I remember Apple holding special Tiger midnight release parties at their stores. I don't remember what day of the week Tiger was released, but if they were to do something similar again, a Saturday wouldn't be a bad day.

 

[Chundles]

Also, I remember Apple holding special Tiger midnight release parties at their stores. I don't remember what day of the week Tiger was released, but if they were to do something similar again, a Saturday wouldn't be a bad day.

April 29th 2005 if I recall.

 

[Zadillo]

You dont understand. With buying apple products you are automatically in the waiting games and speculation games, because apple makes their hardware and software and dont tell anything until its released - mostly

If I would buy lets say a crappy dell and windows I would know all upfront for the future.

That what you said bove just counts for people who buy hardware and software and dont care about future hardware or software releases like me.

Another example Intels CPU roadmap - I like this way more

Thank God for Apple that most customers think like you

Umm, this is really goofy. We know about as much about Dell's product roadmap as we do about Apple's.

Do you know what Dell has in store in the Spring of this year when the Santa Rosa platform debuts? I.e. when the next Dell laptops will be available for sale, what the specs will be, what any case design changes might be? Nope. None of us do. We can guess, but that's about it.

Same with Apple. Intel's CPU roadmap actually makes Apple's roadmap a LOT more predictable. For example, we do know that Santa Rosa is coming out in the Spring, so that gives us a pretty good ballpark to figure out when the next Apple laptops might be coming out and that we can assume they will be using many aspects of the Santa Rosa platform.

Also, Apple doesn't tell anything about their products until they are released? Apple has historically shown off new features of the next OS well in advance (and they've even shown us a fair amount of Leopard already, with some stuff being held back).

And lately they've actually started showing upcoming products, like the AppleTV and iPhone, well before they were actually available.

 

[Stridder44]

"...with a free upgrade to 10.5"

I HIGHLY doubt that.

I got a free upgrade to 10.2 when I got my iMac (came with 10.1). So I don't doubt it at all. Apple's always offered this kind of thing.

 

[Zadillo]

No I meant just mention something about the future or like I said at least he could tell us when he will tell us anything new about the mac. Got it? And it wouldnt be overshadowed by the iPhone - what kind of excuse is this?

No I dont like how they handle it and buying something from apple gets me automatically in this circle of wanting a Rev B or something new I cant escape but want to. I am ready to escape but affraid I will still be looking after a week for new speculations or when a new product comes out all apple lover again.

What exactly more do you want him to say about the Mac that we don't already know? On the portable front, we kind of know there will be Santa Rosa-based laptops, and that's about it. It's about as much as we know about the Spring laptop plans for Dell, HP, Sony, etc. etc. etc.

They'll show off new Mac stuff when they are ready for the market. Same with most other companies.

And absolutely if they had tried to cram some actual new Mac announcements into the Macworld keynote, they would have been overshadowed. Hell, the AppleTV unveiling was overshadowed, and that was a new product. It was lucky to get a paragraph of coverage at the end of most iPhone articles in the press.

But anyway, escape already if it bugs you so much. But if you think you don't have to speculate about upcoming revisions on the PC side, you are mistaken. PC owners are putting up with the same stuff; you can go buy a Core 2 Duo laptop right now, but you have to worry about what the PC notebook manufacturers have in store for Santa Rosa in a few months. At this point almost none of them have really shown much of anything, frankly.

They are being just as secretive as Apple is when it comes to upcoming products.

 

[pseudobrit]

You dont understand. With buying apple products you are automatically in the waiting games and speculation games, because apple makes their hardware and software and dont tell anything until its released - mostly

If I would buy lets say a crappy dell and windows I would know all upfront for the future.

Really? Show me where on Dell's website they have a release date for as-yet-unreleased desktops. Where is that page? Upcoming products to replace the existing ones. I assume it's there somewhere.

Can you show me?

That what you said bove just counts for people who buy hardware and software and dont care about future hardware or software releases like me.

You buy when you need it or just after an update. I'm waiting for a Mac Pro update to buy one. If I needed one, I'd buy it now. Since I don't, I'm in no position to bitch at Apple for not updating it according to my preferred schedule. That's my problem.

Another example Intels CPU roadmap - I like this way more

You like it when a manufacturer predicts next year's product lineup in vague terms and proceeds to then miss deadlines and cancel half the projected products?

Thank God for Apple that most customers think like you

No, thank God Apple doesn't listen to whiny self-selected focus groups.

 

[pseudobrit]

The dell example was bad - I dont even know anything about dell and dont have too much time right now,but come on for the rest you wrote. Are you happy with what you know about leopard?.

And how I know there is no company like Apple about secrecy.

So quit buying Apple products and stop ****ing bitching about their secrecy. You as a consumer don't have a right to know their entire future plans, release dates, pricing and specifications.

Apple wouldn't sell anything ever if they kept talking about how great next quarter's products were going to be. Just be glad they're not in the vaporware business like so many other tech companies.

 

[Zadillo]

The dell example was bad - I dont even know anything about dell and dont have too much time right now,but come on for the rest you wrote. Are you happy with what you know about leopard?.

And how I know there is no company like Apple about secrecy.

The Dell example was just an example. You are claiming that Apple is too secretive because they don't tell us everything about what their upcoming products will be, but my point is that we don't know the details of most upcoming products from ANY PC manufacturer.

I'm pretty happy with what I know about Leopard, yes. The big thing I don't know about it is what the new Finder is going to be like, but frankly, it doesn't really make a difference to me to know about it until I can actually buy it.

I mean, yes, Microsoft unveiled Vista a long time ago, and I've been able to see updated builds to see how it progresses; but that's irrelevant to me. All that would matter to me as far as Vista is concerned is what the final product looks like, and even then, it doesn't matter to me until I can actually use it.

Really, as far as OS updates are concerned, what practical benefit is there i knowing what Leopard will look like, how the Finder will work, etc. until is available? I mean, we've already seen some of the new capabilities in Apple's Leopard preview page, but what good does it do any of us until we can actually get Leopard?

Sure it would be cool to get to see more of it now, but all that does practically is change what your knowledge of the product is before you can buy it.

-Zadillo

 

[Zadillo]

So quit buying Apple products and stop ****ing bitching about their secrecy. You as a consumer don't have a right to know their entire future plans, release dates, pricing and specifications.

Apple wouldn't sell anything ever if they kept talking about how great next quarter's products were going to be. Just be glad they're not in the vaporware business like so many other tech companies.

That's actually a very good point. There's a pretty good reason that companies don't just unveil all their future product details well in advance of them being available. The end result usually is to make people less likely to buy your existing products.

Hell, we've already seen the effect that had on the PC market, frankly. PC sales were down in the dumps during the holiday period because no-one wanted to bother buying a PC knowing Vista was around the corner; MS tried to compensate for their product delays by offering free Vista upgrade coupons, but it still didn't work.

This is the downside to revealing details about your product too early. The main thing Apple has done is given people a timeframe for when to expect Leopard, and that's about it.

-Zadillo

 

[Stridder44]

**** all that. I dont like it and I dont belive it. Wait again for an apple event for months like macworld and then nothing, just dissapointment and all those secrecy makes me sick. We still dont know the top features of the next big Mac OS. I way more would like it like other companies do it. So you know all upfront from the first time they mention a new product and when they add some features they mention it again soon. Its hard to plan and save money if you dont even know when and if it will be worth it or a dissapointment. Apple is playing with their customers and making me mad.

The only thing I like is Apple is looking to be serious about bootcamp with the 40$ or whatever they will charge for bootcamp. Thats good for me.

But since macworld I look at apple different - that was a big dissapointment. They could at least mention something about the mac at macworld. That was so ****ing wrong to not at least mention something about the mac. I was so excited when he started the keynote, with telling how many macs got sold and thanks to developers and so on ... but than nothing, - nothing about the future of macs and than not even saying at which next event he will talk about the mac, wouldnt be as bad but he just ignored the mac.

I dont like apple anymore, I dont like the games and waiting games they play with their customers. But I like the products and love my macbook pro. I think I am gonna say goodbye to apple products. I cant take this anymore.

*plays the worlds smallest violin*