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ooooooh. I just imagined a great commercial.

out of no where comes clips from all the mac commercials (that actually feature macs) over the years in chronological order and fast motion. Then once it gets through all 20 years of commercials in about 15 seconds it lands on some kind of machine in silhouette slowly turning. and up come "Coming Soon" and the apple logo fades up.

Then let the rumors fly!

oh it would be great.
:p
 
SB ad

Apple's size now isn't comparible to its size back in 1984 or any ther time Apple airedd a Super Bowl commercial. In order for Apple to air a commercial they must unveil something huge.

Something like a new processor, or a new machine that isn't like anything we've ever seen. Sure, Pepsi can unveil an ad for the iPod, but Pepsi is a huge company with money... as is Apple, but not with comparable ammounts of green. Appropriate times for the release of such a commercial would be the unveiling of the G5 or original iMac, not the unveiling of another Powerbook with a processor that's already availabe, not a screen or projector,not a speed bump. If Apple was to give us an entirely new machine in its own class between the G5 and the iMac, or something comletely new, crazy and unexpected. It hasn't been that long since the unveiling of the G5 or 17" Powerbook. So it has been a while since the 17", but Apple's not going to pitch a Super Bowl commercial for it. The 23" screen that stands behind my keyboard was announced more than a little while back, so it's overdue for an upgrade, but again, not Super Bowl material.

Apple wouldn't give us the hint of a 20th anniversary Mac. Oh! that's because they released one of those in '97 and inacurately named it 20th Anniversary Mac instead of the more proper title, 20th Anniversary Apple.

It's pretty easy to calculate the times Apple gives us speedbumps and more-of -the-same upgrades on machines that are already in production; however, it's dawm near impossible to predict Apple's sudden new inventions which stand in my mind as the only possibility of Super Bowl ad material. Apple has not given us one clue as to what may come in days near, I would expect a completely stalth speed bump of the G5 in coming days. I wouldn't hold my breath for the unveiling of a G5 powerbook. The 970 runs hot and was initially meant for servers. I wouldn't expect either in a machine other than a PowerMac and 1U Server G5 that we already have. At least for a while. On the other hand, Steve did belittle the potency of the G4, witch leaves the mind to wander if Steve would insult a processor that he's willing to sell for a while longer, or replace it. Maybe Steve just wanted to sell the G5, but what about the market that can't afford it and was previously looking into an iMac G4? Would they run from Apple because its own CEO insulted their machine, would they end up buying the inferior P4 that would cost the same price (more or less) as a G4 iMac?

I hurt during these times that are to be so celebrated, a twentieth anniversary of my favorite company, yet, they are powerless to indulge their festivities. Damw, I hate Steve sometimes. Sometimes because I feel that he's a blind leader, sometimes because I feel that he's holding me in a headlock and I can't see what he's peddling. I'm nervous, Apple's only getting weaker with the recent demoralizations from the entire broken board iBook thing among other screw-ups.

Today, as Sunday begins, as 2:00 AM displays at the top-left corner of my screen, I fear that Apple will take another step in the direction that it took with that Apple-Microsoft thing in '97. I fear the announcement of a Mac OS X for Intel Machines, the absoute signal of Apple's edging towards doom.

I'm nervous, I have been for the past few months, help me.

-Julio
 
Why G5 before fastest G4?

I don't understand why the rumors are always about a G5 in any of the products when the fastest G4 (1.42Ghz) hasn't even made the rounds yet. The fastest G4 you can get new is in the 17" powerbook and it's 1.33Ghz.

Wouldn't you think the "next" thing for both the Powerbook and iMac line would be a simple speed bump? However if that was true I wonder what is taking so long. The G4 1.42Ghz debuted in the Powermac a year ago. We've had G5 powermacs for 6 months. How come the speedier G4s didn't filter down to the rest of the line instead?
 
Unfortunately I need to go into work and setup a laptop tomorrow for a new user Monday so no superbowl for me. *shrugs* Its not as if there aren’t going to be 10,000 copies of the ad on the net if Apple does pull a fast one.
 
Originally posted by rikers_mailbox
G5 PowerBooks.

. . . I love the G5 PowerBook rumor, it's always around. :D

-rik


Must be a typo.

I'm sure you meant:

:eek: "The G5 Cube rumor"



btw: nice post 'howtoplaydead'...
 
Re: Why G5 before fastest G4?

Originally posted by verb
I don't understand why the rumors are always about a G5 in any of the products when the fastest G4 (1.42Ghz) hasn't even made the rounds yet. The fastest G4 you can get new is in the 17" powerbook and it's 1.33Ghz.

Wouldn't you think the "next" thing for both the Powerbook and iMac line would be a simple speed bump? However if that was true I wonder what is taking so long. The G4 1.42Ghz debuted in the Powermac a year ago. We've had G5 powermacs for 6 months. How come the speedier G4s didn't filter down to the rest of the line instead?

The 1.42GHz G4 is an overclocked processor. So, it's really too hot to try to put into a mobile setting. The iMac may see it, but there's a degree to which I doubt we'll ever see a 1.42GHz G4, unless we get a new G4 class chip. (This could be the infamous 7457 from Moto - anyone want to hold your breath on that one? - or the oft rumored 750VX from IBM - the supposed G3+Altivec processor that could be called a G4. Either way, it doesn't seem too likely...)
 
hold your breath?

the 7457 is shipping in 3rd party products now... as all i care about is the Cube (with wimpy power supply), go to powerlogix.com and see the 7457 offerings available now there, in both 1.2 and 1.4 flavors. It even has L3 if I remember correctly, whereas the apple-branded products with 7457 do not (again, if I remember correctly)

but again we're straying offtopic...

Pepsi is a big company, but they're not buying 1 ad, apparently they have several. Apple could do one, if given a reason.

I don't think an upgraded G5 (w/the same processor in the current Xserves) comes close to rating a SB ad (even in my dreamland Cube formfactor), and I agree that a PB upgrade doesn't cut it either.

_____________________

The transference of Lisa tech to a home computer was certainly big news (hello GUI)... I'm not sure what could rate it today...

IMHO perhaps:

* os X for intel boxes (as above, but not likely as below)
* totally novel technology living product
* $100 ipod [or some other way to further cement their market dominance of their online music store in N. American markets (other than the pepsi promo)]
* an Apple-branded PDA with proprietary OS
 
Re: SB ad

Originally posted by howtoplaydead
... I'm nervous, Apple's only getting weaker with the recent demoralizations from the entire broken board iBook thing among other screw-ups...

Interesting... I don't see Apple as getting weaker. There may have been some issues lately, but, in my experience, there hasn't been a year that has gone by since Apple started that there weren't some issues going on. It also seems that there are always doom-sayers that point to these and proclaim that Apple is on its last legs...

...Today, as Sunday begins, as 2:00 AM displays at the top-left corner of my screen...

Uh... What platform are you on? Or is that a clock application that you have that displays at the upper left corner?

...I fear that Apple will take another step in the direction that it took with that Apple-Microsoft thing in '97. I fear the announcement of a Mac OS X for Intel Machines, the absoute signal of Apple's edging towards doom.

I think that you can pretty well rest assured that this isn't going to happen any time soon. Even if it did, more likely than not, Apple would simply produce new machines that used their own chipsets that just happened to have Intel chips at their hearts. These wouldn't be regular PCs and OS X wouldn't run on regular PCs. But, Apple has just released a new processor with IBM, and I highly doubt that they'd be so stupid as to simply flush all of the money that they've spent on the development of this new line by switching to the x86 architectur.

So, be calm. Things aren't as bad as that...
 
like i said, i'm nervous, i meant right corner of my screen.

Apple hasn't reported a increase in its quarterly reports in a while before this latest one. Regardless of this most recent report, I still feel uneasy.

When in the subject of Mac OS X for the intel world, I meant the steps that NeXT took into only the manufacture of its operating system, I don't foresee this coming too soon.

thanks for the conforting message
 
darn i was just thinking of the picture I saw at macbidouille recently of a G5 gutted & replaced with an Wintel mobo...
this with your previous post about development costs of the G5 with IBM...

the most hellish thing misstep for Apple that i can think of is the introduction of a G5 that can run XP natively, in a G5 cheesegrater case. brrrrrrrrr.
 
Originally posted by spaceballl
Dude, the rumor is from a german site. Germans don't even know what football is.
-Kevin

I think the global IQ dropped more than 2pts on this one.
Get your facts straight before throwing out such biased, unsubstantiated, culturally insensitive, and plain wrong assertions about others you obviously know little about.

Football - or "American Football", as it is called in Germany - has become a popular sport in Germany over the last 10-20 years. It is both actively practiced, and televised regularly on the sports channels. While certainly not as popular as soccer, most everyone has a pretty good idea about the basic rules and look-and-feel of Football.

You statement is no smarter than saying Americans don't even know what soccer is.
 
Originally posted by true777
You statement is no smarter than saying Americans don't even know what soccer is.

erm. touche!
uh... that showed him!
:winkwinkrolleyez
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Originally posted by howtoplaydead
Apple hasn't reported a increase in its quarterly reports in a while before this latest one. Regardless of this most recent report, I still feel uneasy.

When in the subject of Mac OS X for the intel world, I meant the steps that NeXT took into only the manufacture of its operating system, I don't foresee this coming too soon.

Hey man, don't worry. Apple is stronger than it has been in a long time. In 1984 when Apple aired its first ad, it was hardly a blip on the radar.. a tiny company still. Apple's stronger now than it has been in a while.

With successes like iPod, iTunes, G5, Xserve, Mac OS X, APple's doing well. And don't let the quarterly numbers scare you, they're actually quite good in general, both in terms of their own progress, but also when compared to all other tech companies. Apple's doing amazingly well, and their most recent quarter was incredibly outstanding. You have nothing to worry about..

In 1996... yeah, you had something to worry about :)
 
Re: Why G5 before fastest G4?

Originally posted by verb
I don't understand why the rumors are always about a G5 in any of the products when the fastest G4 (1.42Ghz) hasn't even made the rounds yet. The fastest G4 you can get new is in the 17" powerbook and it's 1.33Ghz.


there have been rumors of faster G4 PowerBooks

http://page2.macrumors.com
 
http://overclockers.com/tips1133/

sometimes it takes more than one attwmpt to uploade it, mostly because our mac screens are allergic to this sort of viewing.

Parental Discretion advised.
This sort of mutilation to perfectly good dual G5 could cause damage to the brain of a loyal mac user upon first sight.

by clicking on the link above you are waiving the author of this reply completely unresponsible for damages or depression
 
I don't really believe this rumor. The German site states that they have heard it from a credible source, but readily admits one sentence later that this is not set in stone and may actually prove untrue. So they have qualifiers about this, saying they are not sure about it.

I don't doubt the quality of their sources, but believe this is the same rumor we got on MR a few weeks ago when Apple apparently actually considered such an ad. It probably took a while until this trickled down to Germany, and in the meantime, Apple likely dropped their plans, as we've been told. Apple may have re-considered in a last-minute move and we may get a pleasant surprise, but I believe the chance is slim.
 
Originally posted by howtoplaydead
i meant right corner of my screen.

Oh, okay. :)

Apple hasn't reported a increase in its quarterly reports in a while before this latest one. Regardless of this most recent report, I still feel uneasy.

Well, I don't think that other computer manufacturers have done that much better. In fact, I think that Apple has kept at the top of the industry in this respect.

When in the subject of Mac OS X for the intel world, I meant the steps that NeXT took into only the manufacture of its operating system, I don't foresee this coming too soon.

Well, at this point, I don't think Apple has any real plans toward this, at all. Perhaps it's an idea that's kicked around, but right now Apple makes almost all of their money on their hardware. Moving to being an exclusively software/OS company would require a complete change in the model of how the company is run. To attempt this change alone could kill the company, and I'm sure that there are smart people at Apple who realize this.

thanks for the conforting message

You're welcome. :)
 
Originally posted by true777
SNIP

I don't doubt the quality of their sources, but believe this is the same rumor we got on MR a few weeks ago when Apple apparently actually considered such an ad. It probably took a while until this trickled down to Germany, and in the meantime, Apple likely dropped their plans, as we've been told. Apple may have re-considered in a last-minute move and we may get a pleasant surprise, but I believe the chance is slim.

As some posters have pointed out, the Superbowl really represents the last symbollic date to do the 20th Anniversary thing and look like they planned it all along. This date must have been on their minds for a few years now and it would make allot of sense to do something computer orientated for it. If they pulled something off like a iMac rebuild or some such then I think everyone in hindsight would accept Apple was in control all along. If they miss this date and only talk iTunes and iPods, then I think allot of us will be disappointed that they were psyked out by their last attempt at an anniversary computer or that they are distracted so badly by music...
 
I hope to be stunned, it has happened before. But I know in my head that Apple has little likelyhood of screwing Pepsi and releasing a brand new computer over the itunes song giveaway. Please... please let this date be the sared one.
 
If they miss this date and only talk iTunes and iPods, then I think allot of us will be disappointed that they were psyked out by their last attempt at an anniversary computer or that they are distracted so badly by music...

I agree that this is an important date, but the whole music thing is where the cash is at. Apple is like MTV 2's slogan, "where the music's at" and it happens to be where the cash is at also. I have calmed myself and accepted the fact that there will be nothing beyond the advertisement of ipods and itunes (god, please let me be wrong). We should accept Apple for making money so that they can now invest in a good machine or its development. What am I thinking?
If Apple makes money selling music and music related crap, then that's all they'll make... phhpth.. so much for being calm
 
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