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It's going to happen. This forums ear is pretty close to the ground when it comes to Apple.

Yup. It's like I've said previously, if you hear about a rumor once from a single source, it's not gonna happen. Twice? There's interest, but it's not indicative of anything. A goodly number extended over a long period of time? Something's going down.

Considering how this particular rumor keeps popping up from multiple sources, and has continued to do so for at least a couple months now, we're likely getting a bigger iPad.
 
Post from the future

Hi. I'm living in 2019 but I thought it would be fun to post back in time to the many of you who believed the 13" iPad was a bad idea.

The 13" iPad Pro was a big success in 2014. It hastened the decline of PC sales as people migrated to tablets. Today techie people still use laptops or desktops but, for the most part, the public got tired of the viruses and crashing and decided that a tablet did everything they needed it to do with less hassle and less cost. Most people in my office now use either a 15" iPad (introduced in 2015) or one of the amazing 23" iPads (introduced in 2017). The 23" isn't meant to be portable but iOS has grown so much and is still easy to use.

In other news...Google and Samsung are still copying Apple. Microsoft Surface died in 2014. Dell went under in 2015.

Oh, and if you want a stock tip, definitely buy...oops, gotta go.

-John (from Nov. 2019)
 
if it's going to run iOS then i really dont see not one single thing that would make this device anymore "pro" than ipad air/mini/...
 
This is what makes me worry. Steve had a clear vision of what he wanted apple to be and that vision is what made apple such an amazing company. Do a few things and do them the best they can. Now we have the mini...the 5c...a rumored "iPad maxi pad". A new larger iPhone. Is apple turning into windows here? What next? Are they going to bring back selling printers too? Cameras? Is the apple store going to look like an office max in 5 years?

I know apple is fine. Shoot. Look at their cash reserves. They'll be fine for the next couple decades at least! But everything they do needs to have purpose and not just "let's change the size and throw it on the market hoping people will buy it". I'm worried Tim cook doesn't have vision. But hey, I'm probably worried over nothing.

Your worries are well founded. Apple is tossing out products and services willy-nilly. Don't forget flatbed scanners. Apple did those too before Steve returned and slashed the product line.

Too many thing not done very well. Currently MBA owners are very dispelled as they are waiting more than a month to have faulty SSD's replaced. Apple is replacing the Toshiba SSD with another Toshiba SSD and requiring the customer to be without a computer for more than four weeks.

Common sense would dictate replacing the SSD with brand and size that is readily available. Bean counting dictates waiting for Toshiba to replace the parts so Apple saves a few pennies.

Penny wise. Pound foolish.
 
I think this is interesting, however Apple would need to introduce some differentiating features to the large one in order to make it really worth buying it. A more dense screen might suit some people, but for most the current retina display is absolutely fine.

What would be interesting IMO would be if apps could use the screen area better. I see the mockup has an extra row of icons. That would not suffice for me. I would require in this case increased usability options in apps, and possibly even some side by side options for apps.

If apple sticks to the current setup of iOS 7 I'm not sure what the compelling value proposition would be.
 
The only way a "pro" iPad will work is if apple adds "pro" apps to the app store. I will not be buying a iPad pro if it only has iMovie on it and all I can do is check facebook, and play angry birds. If Apple really believes that the future is tablets they need to add touch versions of Final Cut Pro, Aperture, and Logic to the store.

Apps are what are going to make tablets professional, not a bigger screen.
 
Mmmmm! Can't WAIT to see the wasted real estate on the screen that iOS so kindly provides w/ its 3x3 folder layout! ;)
OR! Are the icons going to be an enormous 4 inches wide by 4 inches tall to fill in all that gap space?! :cool:
 
This is exactly what I need. I need an iPad that displays standard 8.5 by 11 paper at actual size. I'm glad I resisted the iPad Air.
 
They really don't need to increase the resolution, the current one would look absolutely fine on the screen. Also alleviate some developer headaches and fragmentation.
 
I think this is interesting, however Apple would need to introduce some differentiating features to the large one in order to make it really worth buying it. A more dense screen might suit some people, but for most the current retina display is absolutely fine.

I think size would be an excellent differentiating feature.
 
Hi. I'm living in 2019 but I thought it would be fun to post back in time to the many of you who believed the 13" iPad was a bad idea.

The 13" iPad Pro was a big success in 2014. It hastened the decline of PC sales as people migrated to tablets. Today techie people still use laptops or desktops but, for the most part, the public got tired of the viruses and crashing and decided that a tablet did everything they needed it to do with less hassle and less cost. Most people in my office now use either a 15" iPad (introduced in 2015) or one of the amazing 23" iPads (introduced in 2017). The 23" isn't meant to be portable but iOS has grown so much and is still easy to use.

In other news...Google and Samsung are still copying Apple. Microsoft Surface died in 2014. Dell went under in 2015.

Oh, and if you want a stock tip, definitely buy...oops, gotta go.

-John (from Nov. 2019)

Yet Samsung, Google, Microsoft, HP and others have JUST that . . . . 23" 15" 13" and 10" tablets. Many of which can switch from Android, which is far better for productivity than iOS (not as stable though) to the full version of Windows 8.

Is iOS8 still a one app at a time OS? If it's not then Apple copied Android and MS in typical fashion. Are "techie" folks people that need to run two apps at once? By that I mean, ONLY high end "techie" types have two windows open at once?

Just curious.

p.s. did Apple ever make a bigger iPhone? Or are people still carrying around 5 Apple products because Apple still refuses to make devices that cross over each other?

Are you suggesting they should copy ultrabooks-transformers?

Yes, folks usually criticize every other company for copying Apple, yet when they rattle off a list of desires for an Apple product it lines up what those other companies already offer.

Not that the person you're quoting or you fits in that category.
 
Musicians will be all over this. Hello proper sheet music creation.

I suppose 12.9" is big enough to sit on a piano so that the player can read their sheet music? Now what about some truly clever software that uses the microphone to listen to wait you are playing, so that it can change pages at the right moment?
 
So it'll be a big expensive touch screen Wacom tablet?

Pretty much. Tablets aren't good for everything, but for the things they are good at, they're very good at.

For instance, I wouldn't want to do a spreadsheet on one, but for photo editing, drafting, modelling, or really any type of visual design, they're beyond excellent. The form factor is perfect for it. All the iPad needs is more ram and proper stylus support. Both of which an iPad Pro can (and better) provide.

I see where you're going, but even in that representation it'd be limited. I like the idea of using it as a controller / UI extension, but outside of that it can't just be the traditional iPad.

I think that, at least starting out, it's not gonna be that much different of an experience. Unless Apple has some huge changes in store for iOS8, you're gonna be single apping everything, same as you do on the current iPads.

And no, it won't be quite as good at everything the iPad is due to size alone. Games in particular will suffer a bit. Angry Birds might be alright, but anything that uses virtual analog sticks will suck due to the fact that the size will make it too unwieldy to hold.

...but the larger screen and inclusion of a stylus will be what ultimately justifies it. It's a "pro" machine, designed to be a better fit for higher end tasks. The comparative weaknesses will be offset by its relative strengths. Like if you want to play games and surf the web, you've the Mini. The happy medium? The Air. Content creation? The Pro.

Though I will agree with you on one thing, for the iPad Pro to truly succeed in the long term, we'll have to see more functionality added to iOS. What it needs is the UI paradigms of iOS, and the flexibility and multitasking abilities of OSX. Being a supplementary device will only carry it so far for so long.
 
If we're going to say that about Samsung, can we say Apple would be copying Toshiba if they made a 13" tablet?

No. Samsung isn't being called "copying clowns" because they made a tablet in the same size as an iPad, they are called "copying clowns" because they copied the design. And "clowns" is separate from "copying" an excellent description if you look at the total flop that their watch is (where they couldn't copy Apple); it also describes their behaviour elsewhere quite well (price fixing, paying people for faked reviews badmouthing a competitor, benchmark cheating and so on).

So if Apple makes a tablet that happens to be the same size as a Toshiba tablet, there is no reason to call that "copying".
 
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