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This is daft.

iPad Pro implies that this is aimed at professional users, but I doubt many of them are going to start doing their work on an iPad. I'm no expect, but I doubt the software on the iPad is anywhere near as functional as the desktop counterparts.

It's not as functional.

But now that Apples primarily a consumer entertainment company it's about dumbing down to the level of the average Joe.

Getting all products centered on iOS, while maintaining the fat profit margins of today.
 
If this is true, iOS will need a serious revamp.

Agreed, and prayerfully in the right direction. It was refreshing to see the first gen iPad with a revamped iOS that was geared more toward DOING something, but even the hack job that Samsung and LG do to Android is far more functional than iOS7, and that's just Android 4.1/4.2/4.3 mangled with skins and bad code from a 3rd party.

I'd love to see a 12.9" iPad that will at the very least allow me to run two apps at the same time, close all apps at once, access a rudimentary file system (or at least let me attach various files to ONE email), and lastly give me better pen/stylus functionality.

On the other hand, I'd love to see a bigger iPhone.
 
To anyone saying that this thing should be 4K :

4K on a 12.9" is around 341 dpi, more than the retina iPad mini.

Apple has trouble getting those 324 dpi screens at 7.9" mass produced... And making high-density screens becomes exponentially harder as you go up in size. Retina MBP have around 220 dpi which is much easier than 341 dpi.

I don't think that it would be possible to mass produce a 4k 12.9" display even next year.
 
This is daft.

iPad Pro implies that this is aimed at professional users, but I doubt many of them are going to start doing their work on an iPad. I'm no expect, but I doubt the software on the iPad is anywhere near as functional as the desktop counterparts.

If you carefully look at the code in the recently released iOS 7.1 beta, there are plans to add a file system, multi-tasking, and native support for more file types.

The current version of iOS that runs today will become "iOS RT" and the new version which will run only on the iPad Pro (and upcoming iPhone Pro) will be called "iOS Ultimate Edition".
 
Mac mini, iMac, Mac Pro

_______, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro

iPhone 5c, iPhone 5s

iPod Shuffle, iPod Nano, iPod Touch, iPod Classic

iPad mini, iPad Air, _____


Filed under: There's not really that much consistency in Apple's naming strategy. Not saying it's not going to happen, but you're just seeing what you want to see.

So mid-2014 11" MacBook Air will be named "Macbook Mini", price will be reduced for 100 bucks. I am an analyst now, respect!! :p ;)
 
A lot of the people poo-pooing this will be the same ones coming back and saying how amazing it is. All you have to do is look at the iPad mini. NO WAY APPLE RELEASES A 7" IPAD - the second it's released, then it's "this hing is amazing, what the iPad should have been to begin with".
 
For a 12.9-Inch iPad Pro, it must be heavy and large. What is the point of using it when I could use the MacBook Air which could run more applications?

It'd be nice to have Wacom support alone. Also, it'd be nice if the thing ran a REAL toned down hybrid version of MacOSX. So users could run some real applications on it, instead of having to learn an entirely new and limited way of doing things.

...iOS already NOT optimized for the iPad - should look "real good" on the Pro.

It's optimized for the iPad, just not very functional. Going from the 3.5" iPhone to an iPad really only gets you a bigger screen and more power. The apps only give slightly more functionality because they have a bigger screen to work with.

Just seems like it would be too big to use in the hand.

Every version of the iPad prior to the Air wasn't really suited for one handed use.

Why can't they make icons bigger? They are so tiny on the regular iPad as is.

It'd be nice to start seeing that choice in the system settings on iOS8. Making the icons bigger or smaller, getting more icons in the drawer, more apps in folders, and maybe even NO apps in the home screen at all.
 
You know why Apple changed the name to iPad Air? Everything is set to fall in line when the 9.7" iPad Air becomes the middle-tier with the 7.9" iPad Mini on the bottom-end.

Mac Pro > Mac Mini
MacBook Pro > MacBook Air
iPad Pro > iPad Air > iPad Mini

Oh dear god. It's sad people don't understand why Apple changes the names of their devices. It is called marketing. iPad > iPad 2 (nothing substantially different, so normal numbering sequence) > iPad with retina display (calling it this instead of 3 probably earned them millions more sales, but either way it was specifically to let people know it had a million times better display) > the new iPad (came about 6 months later, and was named the new iPad specifically to let people know it was new, so they would actually purchase it, was released because the iPad with retina display was slightly slower than the iPad 2) > iPad Air (named this to let people know it is drastically smaller and lighter whilst retaining the same display size). It is all about marketing. iPad mini > iPad mini with retina display (hello? It's not iPad mini 2 because the marketing team knows more people would purchase iPad mini with retina display than iPad mini 2).

Anyway, about this iPad Pro. It's not happening, or if it does it is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. It's honestly hilarious that someone would want to hold a screen that big in their hands. It's impractical and would look hideous and ridiculous, and more importantly be far too cumbersome and heavy to be usable. I don't care if they had 0 bezel all the way around it (not possible/not happening as the home button is permanent especially after touch ID), it would still be far too big. As someone else said, these displays are probably for a retina MacBook Air.
 
They predicted this in 2010.

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I will never doubt the Internet again. Ever. Or until lunchtime.
 
"Make just a few things, but make them Insanely Great". - SJ


iPhone 5C (yeah, that was a success... :roll eyes: ), iPad Mini, iPad Pro, etc....

Cook needs to stop expanding the lineup. Seriously.

When SJ was dying, he told Cook "Never think what I would do. Just do what you think is right". Stop comparing him to SJ's philosophies.
 
I can´t relaly see the market for a larger tablet tbh. I feel its gonna be a fail on the scale of 5c. Especially if it runs the standard iOS 7. I would never buy that
 
Neither. This isn't happening any time soon.

There was an article that claimed Samsung would try to release a large tablet ahead of Apple because Apple is set to introduce a large iPad early next year and that rumor was half confirmed by Samsung's FCC filing so there are good reasons to believe in this rumor.

I wonder what problems this tablet is supposed to solve. Would it be more content creation side of things with a stylus and/or a keyboard case or would be more in the line of a large PDF viewer?

hmmm......
This will run iOS or OSX?

My guess is Apple will not make a OSX tablet in the current incarnation of OSX. Maybe they'll enable touch in OSX at some point but OSX as we know it today will not get an iPad-like form factor anytime soon.

I don't think it's just the touch optimization although that's a big part of it. Apple probably sees the iOS as the much more streamlined modern OS that'll eventually be the main operating system for most tasks. They'll try to expand the capabilities of iOS to meet that goal.

Proposed resolution: 2160x2880 portrait. That's slightly higher DPI than the the Air--and going extra high-DPI beyond that would be a marketing move with battery and performance penalties.

Interesting. Macrumors earlier proposed 1366 x 1024 (2732 x 2048).

this will be the screen for the macbook air 12.4" at 1440p that already been rumored to be thinner and with a better display

I doubt it. The rumored screen was 2304 x 1440 and the current iPad display resolution is already higher so the chance of confusion is probably low.

Probably this iPad will have a surface-like keyboard and (gasp!) maybe expandable storage. In other words, it might be a (gasp!) surface rip-off. Except it's totally amazing, premium, a miracle of design (imagining Tim Cook's keynote ...)

The ASUS Transformer tablet has had a detachable keyboard before the Surface as with a number of Windows tablet PCs from years ago and numerous iPad accessories. If anything the Surface is a relative latecomer to the detachable keyboard party. I supposed it's the first one that tried to sell that as the #1 feature but that didn't work out all that well for them.
 
"Make just a few things, but make them Insanely Great". - SJ

Jobs first move as CEO again was to remove all the surplus SKUs Apple was making. Too bad he can't rise from the grave to do the same again. Apple surely need it.

Steve's first move was to call in the head of every product and make them explain their existence. The result was the elimination of underperforming SKUs. If you've got 100 successful products, cutting to 50 is just cutting revenue.

I'm just trying to remember who was in charge when apples fastest growing line (iPods) proliferated into 5 distinct models. And all they could do was play music.


Hmmmm early 2014? Its obvious an iPad pro is coming due to the change in name of the current iPad to iPad Air, but in 6 months? Seems too soon

If it's like the 2-3 change, this replaces the air, it will be soon. If it's a separate 3rd model, think of it as 'not ready in time for release along side the rMini and air.'

The fun part will be seeing what people will be disappointed with. We're sure to want more pixels, for example, and apple is sure to make resolution the same.
 
I'd love to see a 12.9" iPad that will at the very least allow me to run two apps at the same time, close all apps at once, access a rudimentary file system (or at least let me attach various files to ONE email), and lastly give me better pen/stylus functionality.

On the other hand, I'd love to see a bigger iPhone.

Starting out, I think the iPad Pro will still be a supplementary device, same as it's always been. Provided it has digitizer support (which it better, otherwise it'll be a HUGE waste of potential), you'll use it for single tasks like Photoshop et al., and pair it with whatever you're doing on your PC. You'll be multitasking on two devices, leveraging the strengths of both, rather than using one device to multitask like you would a traditional PC.

Ahhh, looks like it may be too big to hold and play games on comfortably. Wonder how they'll deal with that.

iOS controllers! :D
 
An ipad pro makes sense now due to the air's naming, but I don't know what it would be good for...artists maybe, but who else? But a retina screen for macbook air seems likely too, though with the lower grade retina in the mini, I am guessing the macbook air will suffer the same fate. But I hope apple doesn't start spreading themselves too thin.

Just the name is nonsense. It's big, but that doesn't make it "pro". Many people whose eyesight isn't quite perfect will love it, but they will use it exactly as others use an iPad mini or iPad air.

What would be interesting: If it had a setting that can switch between "same content displayed larger" and "more content".

I wonder what problems this tablet is supposed to solve. Would it be more content creation side of things with a stylus and/or a keyboard case or would be more in the line of a large PDF viewer?

Just for people who like their tablets large. I'd have to see it and hold it, but it's quite possible that would be my next iPad.
 
Prop N' Go

I just want an iPad for watching movies in my sofa with my girlfriend, wide screen, 4K resolution, feather light and easy to either hold or put in lap, also some option for watching in bed...

Prop n' Go Slim - a must have accessory for your iPad or iPad Air. I wouldn't be using my iPad, had it not been for this.

Honestly, if you are holding your iPad for any length of time, you are doing it wrong! Trust me, I tried for the first two weeks and I couldn't do it. I almost went back to my MacBook, but I stumbled on Prop n' Go Slim. This goes for the iPad Air too: no matter how light. Holding iPad Air for 2 hours for a movie is torture!

Sadly, I'm not pay to advertise for them.

Fundamentally, I don't think the iPad will ever gain dominant in the league of the laptop last decade, if Apple wants us to hold it as a primary mode of usage. Hold while reading a book, okay I'll give you that. But holding it while watch movies or surfing the web for any length of time, forgetaboutit!
 
There was an article that claimed Samsung would try to release a large tablet ahead of Apple because Apple is set to introduce a large iPad early next year and that rumor was half confirmed by Samsung's FCC filing so there are good reasons to believe in this rumor.

I wonder what problems this tablet is supposed to solve. Would it be more content creation side of things with a stylus and/or a keyboard case or would be more in the line of a large PDF viewer?



My guess is Apple will not make a OSX tablet in the current incarnation of OSX. Maybe they'll enable touch in OSX at some point but OSX as we know it today will not get an iPad-like form factor anytime soon.

I don't think it's just the touch optimization although that's a big part of it. Apple probably sees the iOS as the much more streamlined modern OS that'll eventually be the main operating system for most tasks. They'll try to expand the capabilities of iOS to meet that goal.



Interesting. Macrumors earlier proposed 1366 x 1024 (2732 x 2048).



I doubt it. The rumored screen was 2304 x 1440 and the current iPad display resolution is already higher so the chance of confusion is probably low.



The ASUS Transformer tablet has had a detachable keyboard before the Surface as with a number of Windows tablet PCs from years ago and numerous iPad accessories. If anything the Surface is a relative latecomer to the detachable keyboard party. I supposed it's the first one that tried to sell that as the #1 feature but that didn't work out all that well for them.


they said the resolution on the macbook air 1440p but not for this display (only the size is mention) so still plausible
 
A lot of the people poo-pooing this will be the same ones coming back and saying how amazing it is. All you have to do is look at the iPad mini. NO WAY APPLE RELEASES A 7" IPAD - the second it's released, then it's "this hing is amazing, what the iPad should have been to begin with".

I think most people who said Apple would never release a smaller iPad were just restating what Steve Jobs said publicly, and, obviously, he was lying, and those people were wrong.

As far as I know, Apple has not said they would never release an iPad with a larger display, so people are just giving their opinions. Many of the people saying Apple won't or shouldn't make an iPad with a larger display are backing up their prediction with good reasons why it doesn't make sense. Of course, Apple could release some killer new features with a larger screen iPad that changes everything. But, if it is only about a bigger screen, I don't think I would be in the market for an "iPad Pro" (or whatever it would be called), and I don't think many others would want it.
 
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