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Can someone spell "F" "B" "I" ;)

Those things do not happen out of the blue.
Someone had a great idea to restore a phone that was originally activated by an employer.

I really wonder who's talking to whom when these changes are audited.
 
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People are just idiots. You created the password at one point. You should have saved it, filed it, duplicated and saved it. It's not Apples problem that you are too stupid to save your own created passwords. You should be upset at yourself not at Apple. LOL!!!
 
Can someone spell "F" "B" "I" ;)

Those things do not happen out of the blue.
Someone had a great idea to restore a phone that was originally activated by an employer.

I really wonder who's talking to whom when these changes are audited.

Can someone spell tinfoil?
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People are just idiots. You created the password at one point. You should have saved it, filed it, duplicated and saved it. It's not Apples problem that you are too stupid to save your own created passwords. You should be upset at yourself not at Apple. LOL!!!

So, what is Apple fixing?
 
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People are just idiots. You created the password at one point. You should have saved it, filed it, duplicated and saved it. It's not Apples problem that you are too stupid to save your own created passwords. You should be upset at yourself not at Apple. LOL!!!

Are you incredibly stupid or just play that way on a message board?

I've updated my 6 with no problem. The iPad 2 is having the problem thst is described here.

I have one iCloud account and both my devices are on it along with my watch, which made it to 2.2 fine.
 
This one was killer for me because it affected my grandmother, who then called me and had to be helped for an hour.
 
I had no problems updating my 5c and iPad mini to iOS 9.3
Are you the original owner though? If so, then you wouldn't have a problem. It's the people who are not the original owners and the device's serial number is somehow still tied to the original owner's ID.
 
Are you incredibly stupid or just play that way on a message board?

I've updated my 6 with no problem. The iPad 2 is having the problem thst is described here.

I have one iCloud account and both my devices are on it along with my watch, which made it to 2.2 fine.
The iPad 2 is having a slightly different issue relating to "activation server temporarily unavailable" then connecting to iTunes causes an error "can't verify device".
I'm fairly sure this issue hasn't been fixed yet & does not relate to the issue described in that article.
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Are you the original owner though? If so, then you wouldn't have a problem. It's the people who are not the original owners and the device's serial number is somehow still tied to the original owner's ID.
It's just whoever was signed into iCloud before the update. If you buy a 2nd hand device & the original owner is still signed in then that's kind of expected
 
This update has bricked my Ipad 2. Im stuck at the activation screen. Nothing has worked (updated itunes and tried the troubleshooting)...
[doublepost=1458926355][/doublepost]Same here. Got about two hours "chat" with Apple Support. Escalated to Supervisor. All very helpful but still waiting to hear back from "Engineers"
 
Hm.. So if I've already updated my Air to 9.3, had this issue but got it fixed, do I still need to download the 'fix' when it's avaible?

If it's working I wouldn't update. I'm not doing mine over but I didn't have any issues on my air
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This is way too funny:D

There is another one, if you can't recall the Apple ID and password used to ORIGINALLY activate the device you are an idiot. This is notwithstanding the fact that the previous owner had signed out

Changing passwords isn't the issue as I change my Apple ID password a lot. It's the change in the actual Apple ID. If that was changed then it's throwing the ID and older password off. I think.
 
If it's working I wouldn't update. I'm not doing mine over but I didn't have any issues on my air

True, I'll probably update anyway if it would for some stupid reason re-appear. Although I'm going on vacation next week so updating my iPad in a country where I can't get support(or?) nor have access to iTunes isn't very amusing... Hope they release it within the next few days.
 
True, I'll probably update anyway if it would for some stupid reason re-appear. Although I'm going on vacation next week so updating my iPad in a country where I can't get support(or?) nor have access to iTunes isn't very amusing... Hope they release it within the next few days.

My air did experience a small hiccup at first. I had to sign in twice to get it going the second time havin to enter my ID and password but luckily all is well and the iPad is smooth on 9.3

With that being said I'm going to buy the newer iPad next week, the air doesn't feel old but I don't want to deal with issues when ios10 comes out.
 
Odd. I updated a fifth generation iPod touch (16GB Black and Silver, no rear-camera) to 9.3 the night before last via OTA and had no trouble with this at all. Also an iPad mini 2 (32GB WiFi only) yesterday, though that was updated as an OTA from Beta 7. Also no trouble. Everything else in my iOS arsenal is happily on 9.3 with no issue. I wonder what the specific issue is and on which specific devices...
 
Wait, I thought this was a much worse issue, you mean to tell me the problem is because Apple didn't make it convenient for users to bypass the login screen? It's asking users for their iCloud email and password..... This is the equivalent of someone complaining to Sony because they can't turn on their TV because the remote is missing...
 
Another update another major f-up. This is not the Apple of 1988 or 1998. This is getting to be too consistent, in my stupid unprofessional opinion.
 
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Updated my wifes 5S and was surprised by the prompt. We had to go digging in some past notes of hers for her password, luckily we found it and got it installed ok. She just rarely uses her password for anything so it was a showstopper until we figured it out.

The funny (and really sad) thing is that I thought it was just normal, as ever since I changed my Apple ID email address, I'm constantly being hit here or there with a request for my *old* Apple ID email/password. So, since I knew them, I entered them and it worked.

But, IMO, this is just the tip of the iceberg for a much bigger and deeper issue in Apple's cruft of their modern OS sloppiness.
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Another update another major f-up. This is not the Apple of 1988 or 1998. This is getting to be too consistent, in my stupid unprofessional opinion.

No kidding, it's pretty much an every update thing now, even every point update. (And why, exactly, do we have to run through a 'setup' routine every point update anyway?)

And, I've been a Mac user for roughly 30 years now and worked with these systems *professionally* for much of it. And, this is the first time in 30 years that I've been seriously concerned about Apple. Yes, the quality has dropped a lot, and alarmingly so in the last 3-5 years (mostly on the software side, the hardware side is excellent, maybe better than ever).
 
Updated my wifes 5S and was surprised by the prompt. We had to go digging in some past notes of hers for her password, luckily we found it and got it installed ok. She just rarely uses her password for anything so it was a showstopper until we figured it out.
So she uses ONLY the phone and built in apps. Never installs any apps, never buys any music? Or uses separate accounts for that? I'm not starting a fight, just wondering...

Everybody's got their panties in a knot. When there were 12 Apple devices in existence -- I know, I was one of them -- you would download it and it worked. From Compuserve. Or you could take 5 floppies to the computer store, and they'd let you have a copy of System 6 for free! Now, we're in the world of a billion Apple devices. It might take a day or so, but they'll work it out. I updated my iPad mini v2 with Retina, and that went perfectly.

I agree. I think it's not so much that apple's software quality has gone down the drain as much as apple's devices are now used exponentially more than they used to be so 1% affected users isn't a few thousand, it's now closer to 100 thousand. Any software developer will know, if you have a hundred QA testers and you release software to a 100 thousand, there will be bugs missed. I can't imagine what it's like releasing to hundreds of millions.

So no, Steve would have let this happen, because Steve couldn't even dream of the numbers that Apple is at right now. Look at opening day for iPhone 6s, anything Steve was doing is far from that.

Let others be the lambs to the slaughter.

Yeah non-Biblical terms lambs are no longer led to slaughter. Their feet are tied up and they are dragged, kicked and pulled on their necks sometimes snapping them. They are stuffed into trucks most of the time with broken limbs and holes in below freezing weather... just sayin, no one is leading them...

So your excuse makes it acceptable? Lol ok.

What?

I agree that people need to know both their usernames and passwords, but the truth is that not everyone does.

Again, without their usernames and passwords they cannot buy anything. So people use their phones as is, with no apps, no music, no backups, no anything? And yes, aware that the password is saved, but one reboot = have to retype everything.

The question for you non-trollers, is this the original original original username/password like the first time the iPhone was ever activated (i.e. bought a phone from ebay 2 years ago, was reset and updated multiple times, but now it wants the original ebay sellers password); which begs the question why is apple tracking an unused apple id (which i highly doubt)? Or are we talking about the apple id that was used since the last time the phone was hard reset. If so that iCloud password is always asked after restores and most of the time after updates (for me anyway). The only difference is now it's asked during activation first. I get that you cancel the earlier, but either way you have to know what it is. Or do people just ignore that and absolutely never install apps or get anything in iTunes store? Or they use separate accounts, one for activation and another for everything else, so clearly they can remember some passwords.

Of course, users can always do what they do at work. Put a sticky note of their passwords on the screen.
 
My air did experience a small hiccup at first. I had to sign in twice to get it going the second time havin to enter my ID and password but luckily all is well and the iPad is smooth on 9.3

With that being said I'm going to buy the newer iPad next week, the air doesn't feel old but I don't want to deal with issues when ios10 comes out.

Mine was never able to get pass the activation error... Luckily iTunes did the trick. I'd say mine is roughly the same as on 9.2.1.

I'd love to get the new 9.7" iPad Pro, but unfortently I'm not located in any of the countries it's going on sale first.. So I gotta wait until 'early April' :(
Or well, I'm going to visit a country which will have it avaible by thursday, but since there's probably going to be issues with warranty and different outlets there, I'd rather wait a few weeks more.
 
Another update another major f-up. This is not the Apple of 1988 or 1998. This is getting to be too consistent, in my stupid unprofessional opinion.

It's really not that big of a **** up on apples part. The end user also needs to take some responsibility in remembering their personal log in credentials.
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So she uses ONLY the phone and built in apps. Never installs any apps, never buys any music? Or uses separate accounts for that? I'm not starting a fight, just wondering...



I agree. I think it's not so much that apple's software quality has gone down the drain as much as apple's devices are now used exponentially more than they used to be so 1% affected users isn't a few thousand, it's now closer to 100 thousand. Any software developer will know, if you have a hundred QA testers and you release software to a 100 thousand, there will be bugs missed. I can't imagine what it's like releasing to hundreds of millions.

So no, Steve would have let this happen, because Steve couldn't even dream of the numbers that Apple is at right now. Look at opening day for iPhone 6s, anything Steve was doing is far from that.



Yeah non-Biblical terms lambs are no longer led to slaughter. Their feet are tied up and they are dragged, kicked and pulled on their necks sometimes snapping them. They are stuffed into trucks most of the time with broken limbs and holes in below freezing weather... just sayin, no one is leading them...



What?



Again, without their usernames and passwords they cannot buy anything. So people use their phones as is, with no apps, no music, no backups, no anything? And yes, aware that the password is saved, but one reboot = have to retype everything.

The question for you non-trollers, is this the original original original username/password like the first time the iPhone was ever activated (i.e. bought a phone from ebay 2 years ago, was reset and updated multiple times, but now it wants the original ebay sellers password); which begs the question why is apple tracking an unused apple id (which i highly doubt)? Or are we talking about the apple id that was used since the last time the phone was hard reset. If so that iCloud password is always asked after restores and most of the time after updates (for me anyway). The only difference is now it's asked during activation first. I get that you cancel the earlier, but either way you have to know what it is. Or do people just ignore that and absolutely never install apps or get anything in iTunes store? Or they use separate accounts, one for activation and another for everything else, so clearly they can remember some passwords.

Of course, users can always do what they do at work. Put a sticky note of their passwords on the screen.

Normally you have an option of skipping the the ID password and just get right to the phone and update your iCloud setting later. In this case one can't get buy skipping the ID process.
 
Aha, so it IS true!!! The head of the iOS test team is from MS!!! :eek:

Where have you been the last year? This is a very outdated way of thinking. MS has changed their tone in the last few years. Windows 10 is a huge success with very well thought through features and infact is praised amongst reviewers, enterprises and even general consumers. .NET, C# all went opensource. Visual Studio Code came to mac, .net compilers to mac & linux. I can keep going on and on...

So are you saying apple is doing a ton better than they did before?
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Ahhhh, the 'ole "Works for me, so there obviously isn't a problem" defense. It's pretty prevalent around here, I must admit.

What's next? "Let them eat cake" ?

Is your recommendation to disable passwords because people can't remember them? Disable emails to, because while YOU can remember it, I'm sure others do not.

You do not need any more idiot safety nets in America.
 
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