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I'm wondering how this could happen in the first place... Maybe because it's registered on a different iCloud account. And activation matches Apple ID with product serial number...? I noticed iPhones that were activated on a new iCloud account were still present on original iCloud account registered products.

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I'm wondering how this could happen in the first place... Maybe because it's registered on a different iCloud account. And activation matches Apple ID with product serial number...? I noticed iPhones that were activated on a new iCloud account were still present on original iCloud account registered products.


In my case, I have only one iCloud account.
 
I download iOS 9.3 for my iPad 4 using iTunes but was going to wait a few days to install it to see if any major issues came up. The iPad itself now keeps prompting me to install the update. From the description in this article, it appears the iPad 4 is affected by this bug (since is says "older devices" and includes the newer iPad Air). If Apple has pulled the update, I'd expect iOS to stop prompting me. I wonder if they re-released it or if it would just try to install but fail when it sees it isn't signed.

...the question is "why are old login informations still relevant?". The old login informations might have been changed because they got somehow compromised: they should not be valid anymore anywhere, but actually they are.

The problem is not only that they need to be used to unlock the device (which could be counter-intuitive and potentially an hassle), the problem is that they can be used to do such a thing at all (which could be plain simply a security risk).

From the description, it appears they are being required to activate the device. The device's current passcode, whatever it may be, is still used to unlock the device. This is not really a security risk, but it's certainly a problem in any case.
 
I don't think this is an issue. It sounds like it's because people don't know their own passwords and can't get past the activation screen, no?
That's not the issue. It's because the update is requiring some people to use old ID's that should be invalid.

That's how Apple is spinning it, but that's not what happened. If that's all that happened, they wouldn't have pulled the release.
That's not how Apple is spinning it at all. That's how some forum members are spinning it. Apple pulled the release because of a bug. That's what they're supposed to do.
 
Yup. My 5s is now screwed up. It thinks the SIM card is invalid. Phone was originally on TMobile, but has been on AT&T for well over a year. Now my phone can't be used unless I put in the old SIM and now my phone is an iPod Touch.
That sounds more like a carrier issue to be honest. I was just told the other day, that with AT&T you can no longer just pop SIM cards in and out of phones, that it has to be activated in their computer. Something to do with these newer SIMs or something. I don't know how true it is but it would be worth a shot to just get a new SIM first.
 
That's not how Apple is spinning it at all. That's how some forum members are spinning it. Apple pulled the release because of a bug. That's what they're supposed to do.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206203

Apple is saying if you forget your activation Apple ID password you can't continue. They are saying the bug is that the displayed Apple ID is wrong. The bug is that the devices shouldn't need to be activated in the first place as they already were.

In my case I never even got a prompt to enter my details. I simply got an activation error.
 
People forgetting their passwords is not a bug. If people would remember their username and passwords it's not an issue. The problem exists between the chair and the device.
In my opinion, more people need to use apps like 1Password. Using such apps in a responsible and practical manner would alleviate a lot of 'forgot the password type problems.
 
It is starting look like Apple has eliminated any quality control/testing group they may have had. Cooks Apple pushes crap out the door far too often.
 
iPad 4 and 5th gen iPod touch here, both updated fine as soon as update was available, but hearing from a lot of people with iPad 2's and iPhone 4s's that have had this issue.
 
Really dude ? I rarely defend Apple, but that's a stupid claim. More likely, it's lack of proper testing, despite the long beta period. If you want to criticize Apple, criticize them for that.

Its okay. He is just making a claim. You dont have to be so upset about it.
 
People forgetting their passwords is not a bug. If people would remember their username and passwords it's not an issue. The problem exists between the chair and the device.

Have you not noticed that it's become practically impossible for people to remember their passwords? We all have hundreds of passwords now. If people try to manage that by reusing passwords they are idiots. If they use simple memorable passwords they are idiots. If they don't use long random strings they are idiots. If they write them all down they are idiots. And of course if they forget them, they are idiots. So far the only generally accepted solution is a password manager, but if that's on your phone and you can't get your phone working because it suddenly needs a password you rarely use, apparently that makes you an idiot too.
 
Have you not noticed that it's become practically impossible for people to remember their passwords? We all have hundreds of passwords now. If people try to manage that by reusing passwords they are idiots. If they use simple memorable passwords they are idiots. If they don't use long random strings they are idiots. If they write them all down they are idiots. And of course if they forget them, they are idiots. So far the only generally accepted solution is a password manager, but if that's on your phone and you can't get your phone working because it suddenly needs a password you rarely use, apparently that makes you an idiot too.
I'll add that to complicate things it is general assumption not to use the same credentials and passwords on different sites, change them regularly, esponentially increasing resources needed to manage them all
 
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Maybe I'm missing something.. It seems unnecessary to receive these prompts after updates. But do people not know their Apple ID password??

Maybe remember your login credentials and everything would be just fine. Users take no responsibility, you forgot your own login info!!

It seems it asks for the _first_ Apple ID password of the device. So if you changed it from 1234 to abcd to be safer, it would ask you for 1234 instead of abcd. Do you remember your _previous_ Apple ID password?
 
Have you not noticed that it's become practically impossible for people to remember their passwords? We all have hundreds of passwords now. If people try to manage that by reusing passwords they are idiots. If they use simple memorable passwords they are idiots. If they don't use long random strings they are idiots. If they write them all down they are idiots. And of course if they forget them, they are idiots. So far the only generally accepted solution is a password manager, but if that's on your phone and you can't get your phone working because it suddenly needs a password you rarely use, apparently that makes you an idiot too.
If they remade The Exodus today using Apple apologists, most of them would simply walk across the Red Sea instead of parting it.
 
My daughter had this problem on her iPad 4 and she knows her password and has always had the same password.
 
Basically what I said last night.

https://forums.macrumors.com/index.php?posts/22711591/

Though I don't think Apple understands the problem. People aren't getting an activate iPad prompt for a username and password, people are getting a "Your iPad could not be activated because the activation server is temporarily unavailable..." error and a message about needing to bring the iPad into an Apple Store if connected to iTunes.

Yes, and once they get to the store, Apple reps will lead the affected customers to a newer device: "We cannot update your iOS at the moment so why dont you consider updating to a newer iPhone if you are in a hurry?" And their argument would be: "Well, it's your fault for not remembering your own password... Sorry."
 
Updated my wifes 5S and was surprised by the prompt. We had to go digging in some past notes of hers for her password, luckily we found it and got it installed ok. She just rarely uses her password for anything so it was a showstopper until we figured it out.
I’m not trying to sound rude, I’m just trying to get my head around the issue. Is it just because iOS is having people type in their Apple ID? How do you sign into iCloud on other devices if you don’t know your Apple ID?
 
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