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"...Apple is also considering updating the MacBook Air, its most affordable notebook."
What? We're less than 3 weeks away, and they are just now "considering" an update
 
From what I read the delta speed is small, under 15%, but the power savings is a bit more than that. If they don't reduce the battery size on this mere speed bump it should last an hour longer or more.

There is no 15% delta and no battery gains. The only gain you will see is in the IGP (integrated graphics). The CPU share the exact same micro code and architecture as Skylake. It has the exact same IPC, so the only difference is a slightly optimised production node going from what Intel is calling 14nm to 14nm+. This gives you 100MHz higher cpu clock speeds at the same TDP. That's it.

There's a reason why a Intel Core i7-6700K and Intel Core i7-7700K at the same clock speeds gives more or less identical performance. It's because KabyLake is just Skylake rev2.0 and nothing more. But people keep getting fooled by the naming and tells themselves that it has to be better because it's newer and got a new name...
 
I should have said "up to" but still I bet you understood perfectly what I was saying.
And yes while they are weaker than the desktop part they are still miles ahead of anything AMD has presently or in the near future, to offer for laptop use.

P.S.: Most of those gtx 1080 based laptop come with 17,3 and 18 inches screen which amount for quite a bit of weight.
17" MBP 2011 weighs 3kg.

GTX 1080 laptops are heavier than that because of primitive engineering and/or the cooling necessary.
 
We need workstations and servers, not a re-release of stuff you just put out a few months ago.
Sigh. Discontinue those air and macbook things, just make one laptop in three sizes from student config to pro user. Nonsense to have 983402 different versions. No wonder the servers and workstations keep getting ignored.
High-end Pro workstations, sure, but servers?
 
OK, so Apple should hold off on making updates exactly how long to make you feel better about your purchase? Should the folks who are thinking about buying one of theses updated models in June hold off because there is likely to be another update sometime next year? When you are dealing with tech, you have to get over the fact that a newer model is soon coming out or you'd never buy and you'll never be satisfied. You have to just decide if the current price and features makes sense for you. The obvious exception is when you believe they are about to announce a new model!

LOL, don't take it too seriously. It's a normal human reaction. Not intended for those who are in the market for a new machine at the moment.
 
I've tried telling them, yet the 'Apple might go with Ryzen' posts remain.

TB3 only requires Apple buying the TB3 chip, hook it up to the PCIe bus and paying what-ever royalties associated. There is no technological reason you can't have TB3 on AMD.
 
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Regarding MacBook Air...

Make the current 12" MacBook the "Consumer" Mac notebook (maybe have a 11" version?) And do away with the Air altogether. IMHO

That would mean that 12" MacBook price point would start from 999$.. and that won't happen easily.
 
I agree that the Air is probably dead, but an update would be great. They are wonderful workhorse computers. I just picked up my daughter from college....used the same MBA for 4 years plus internships.....never a problem. It is probably the most popular computer on campus, since you can buy them all day long on sale new for $800.

People love the classic look and feel of this machine, plus: MagSafe, USB ports, SD card slot, illuminated Apple logo.....very nice. Plus, the MBA has amazing 12 hour battery life. If Apple updated the processor and replaced the standard trackpad with Force Touch, it would breath new life into this machine. Apple might even save production cost with these updates, since they can buy the current processors in larger bulk and don't have to manufacture two types of track pads.

As for the screen, retina would be great, but it is improbable, since this is a significant feature that differentiates the Air from the Pro Models. They could upgrade to IPS to improve viewing angles, but I suspect this won't happen. The good news is that laptops are pretty easy to adjust for viewing angles, since they are hinged and portable. But, if you can't live with the screen, pay a few hundred bucks more for the old MBP or spend even more for the new MBP. Choice is good.
 
I also think what it *needs* (but may not get) is some sort of revision so its 3D graphics card can run at full speed, vs. throttling it down due to overheating concerns in the small space.

How about a MacBook that turns into a real desktop when connected to an external display? Maybe switch to an external GPU built into the display? That way you could have really good video editing performance at home/work, but still be able to use the same machine while traveling.
 
How about a MacBook that turns into a real desktop when connected to an external display? Maybe switch to an external GPU built into the display? That way you could have really good video editing performance at home/work, but still be able to use the same machine while traveling.
You can do that since TB1 Macs and even with a self-built eGPU.

Apple just needs to fix OSX so that hacking is not necessary.
 
It doesn't make any sense for Apple to go for AMD. First off, AMD currently offer inferior IPC and single-threaded performance. As Apple is mostly selling notebooks, they want efficiency and not just throw additional cores to gain additional power.

AMD Ryzen is awesome as it provides much needed competition in the market. Intel has been resting on their laurels for way too long. But for the mobile/notebook market they don't offer anything superior to Intel, so for Apple to go for AMD would only be about economics so they could get even higher margins on the Mac's. Not something that is good for us consumers.

We do not want or need additional cores on systems like these, the only Mac where it would make sense to go for AMD is in the Mac Pro is Apple would opt for the AMD Threadripper aka AMD Ryzen HEDT models that will be revealed this summer. But having Intel on the notebooks, and AMD on the Mac Pro won't happen.

You also have to remember that Apple is tailoring and optimising macOS much more closely with it's hardware compared to Windows. Apple is currently utilising instructions and extensions like AVX and the Ryzen CPU's only supports AVX 128-bit, while Intel supports AVX 256-bit, and will be supporting AVX 512-bit with their upcoming Skylake-X and Coffee Lake line-up of CPU's that will arrive this summer (Skylake-X) and this autumn (Coffee Lake).

So wishful thinking here, if you will indulge me....

First, AMD's single thread performance with the Raven Ridge (i.e., mobile) platform is expected to be on part with an i5-6600. Granted, it does not best Intel (yet), but for most people it will be "good enough." Yuck. However, even with Ryzen, the single-threaded performance has seen gains to put it on par with Intel as software from Windows OS to games have become optimized for Ryzen's new architecture.

Second, AMD's Raven Ridge platform is set to be released around September this year. This puts it on track for Apple's mention of a rumored new MBP project.

Third, while you are correct that Raven Ridge only supports 128-bit registers for AVX (and AVX2), that is per core. Each core can run 128-bit AVX instructions separately or the two cores can be fused together to perform 256-bit AVX2 instructions, even if it's not quite as efficient as dedicated AVX2 registers. Although this will put AMD APUs at a disadvantage for lengthier workloads, Apple could showcase benchmarks which show AMD APUs on par or even beating Intel CPUs on shorter workloads. Perhaps the next revision of Ryzen will support 256-bit registers per core, which may then be utilized together for 512-bit AVX support.

Fourth, another unknown factor involves Apple's utilization of AMD's 11-core Vega GPU, which will be an integrated part of the APU.

Again, Intel is still slightly ahead of AMD in terms of performance, and the need to cobble together a solution for 256-bit AVX2 instructions is less than ideal; however, this would not be the first time Apple might be willing to take a step back in order to take a long-term two steps ahead. For example, the transition from 64-bit PowerPC CPUs to Intel's 32-bit Core Duo CPUs saw Apple step back for a generation until Intel had 64-bit CPUs ready. Consequently, I think such a transition to AMD is at least possible.
 
They may just be speed bumps and not major updates and really not even announced just changed in the store.

Apple usually completely focuses on software and the OS's at the WWDC and not hardware unless they really have.... One more thing ;)
 
More Macbooks?
We have had enough of these overpriced, nothing special boxes.
Apple needs to get the iPhone 8 released ASAP since Apples revenue has taken a massive hit and Samusng has released the S8. So stop the Macbooks and concentrate on the iPhone 8....
 
Let's just pull the band-aid off now, gents.

Mag safe isn't' coming back. Neither are USB-A ports. It hurts. But there it is.

I'm hoping the rumors of high demand for the 2015 model were true and Apple will refresh that version with modern parts. If that were to happen, it probably would have magsafe and USB-A.
 
More Macbooks?
We have had enough of these overpriced, nothing special boxes.
Apple needs to get the iPhone 8 released ASAP since Apples revenue has taken a massive hit and Samusng has released the S8. So stop the Macbooks and concentrate on the iPhone 8....

Boo! Hiss!

iPhone 8 is going to be an extremely limited supply, fingerprint-sensor-on-the-back, $1100 phone. I can wait for it. The increased focus on Macs is excellent.
 
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