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Apple to Drop Prices of Notebooks?
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I'm in the very same boat. I hope it happens soon though, I've got someone lined up to buy my 2yr old MacBook, but I'm not sure how patient she'll be..
Hmm, I think your sensory apparatus is out of whack. Apparently you're just another one in the row who haven't met anyone with an opinion before.
I truly hope they can bring in a new macbook at a cheap price, still been a long wait just so I can get my hands a first revision notebook..
wow, definitely a good rumor. If that is true, the whole world will be waiting for the next release!
No, I don't have any insider knowledge, it's just all speculation. No, I'm not presenting it as fact because I used the words "would be my guess." Yes, it is still a reduction in price for everyone, except students (the majority of Mac converters) such as myself. In a perfect world Apple would reduce their products to reasonable prices so it won't cost us an arm and a leg to upgrade our Macs or buy one of their newer models.
I love the camera idea.
I second that, a camera would make the the iPod touch pretty much perfect.
Lower Cost vs. Increased Features
So I finally got to the end of this thread (I cheated a bit at the end)
It seems to me I see a lot of people pretty happy about a price cute to the macbook and/or MBP line. As a poor grad student looking to buy her first make I can sympathize.
But I also see a lot of people drafting their wish list for the next macbook/MBP revision - LED, Blu-Ray (not that I want this), aluminum, SSDs etc.
I have no evidence to prove this but my gut feeling is we can't have both. I find it hard to believe apple's going to deliver awesome new hardware that will probably cost them more to build and charge us less too (the world just isn't that perfect)
What would be cool (again just thinking off the top of my head here) is to have both but it separate computers. Imagine if they lower the price of your average macbook (basically what we have now). Make it say 899-999 so no one can complain about apple not selling affordable computers. It will have OSX but the understanding will be that apple won't be trying to be leading edge this product. (think mac mini but a notebook version). Now there is a more appropriate price gap in the line up to offer a higher end macbook around the 1400-1500 price range that is built to compete with the cutting edge on the pc side so those of us who can afford to spend a bit more can get a macbook that has everything (or atleast most things) we want. I'm not a marketing expert so I have no idea if this would work. Just an idea.
So I finally got to the end of this thread (I cheated a bit at the end)
It seems to me I see a lot of people pretty happy about a price cute to the macbook and/or MBP line. As a poor grad student looking to buy her first make I can sympathize.
But I also see a lot of people drafting their wish list for the next macbook/MBP revision - LED, Blu-Ray (not that I want this), aluminum, SSDs etc.
I have no evidence to prove this but my gut feeling is we can't have both. I find it hard to believe apple's going to deliver awesome new hardware that will probably cost them more to build and charge us less too (the world just isn't that perfect
)What would be cool (again just thinking off the top of my head here) is to have both but it separate computers. Imagine if they lower the price of your average macbook (basically what we have now). Make it say 899-999 so no one can complain about apple not selling affordable computers. It will have OSX but the understanding will be that apple won't be trying to be leading edge this product. (think mac mini but a notebook version). Now there is a more appropriate price gap in the line up to offer a higher end macbook around the 1400-1500 price range that is built to compete with the cutting edge on the pc side so those of us who can afford to spend a bit more can get a macbook that has everything (or atleast most things) we want
. I'm not a marketing expert so I have no idea if this would work. Just an idea.
I don't understand this, why is it every weekend in the newspaper I see ads for well configured PC's for as little as $500? And those all have 15" screens!
Why are the macbooks so expensive? Is the simple answer from Apple "Because we can!"
Why couldn't it be:
MB 13" $799
MB 15" $999
MBA 13" $1299
MBP 15" $1499
MBP 17" $1999
How much market share could Apple grab if their prices came in line with the rest of the computer world? Doesn't Apple have the purchasing power of Dell, Lenovo, HP, Sony, Toshiba, etc?
Dude you OK? thats a bit of a rant I mean did you read my post, I am just a newbie who gave my two cents. I sense a disturbing passive aggressive tone in your post - seems somebody has been let down real bad by Apple and just needed to offload on some random person who obviously touched a raw nerve - if I knew you as half as much as you seem to know me i might have suggested gaining some professional help.
As for your love the of Apple MessagePad I have a high level of trust in Apple and the reason why they discontinued it in its orginal form and resurrected it's ethos in the iPhone/itouch concept.
I also think Steve job's showed his shrewd business sense when he reaquired NewtonOS by buying back Newton Inc, without that play Apple would not have it incorprated in Mac OS since Jaguar and our Chinese friends would not be able to add custom characters to their iphone nor creative people be able to pen through track pads.
But then what do I know, I just love new technology, don't want to learn from past mistakes, and dont appreciate whats gone before. Oh and finally don't be so arrogant & smug you don't know who the random on the post reply is.
I am just glad Apple don't have my failings otherwise we would have Mesagepads and not iphones in our hands but the world would also have one less Tosser - perhaps
I still marvel that I'm the only person on planet earth that doesn't hate Vista. I wouldn't go back to looking at XP for any amount of money.
My point was that if you don't have any prior computer experience that OSX is easier to jump in with, not at all did I mean to imply that OSX was for simpler minds and that only smarter people could appreciate Vista. I think if you learn one or the other learning the little tricks in Windows just takes a bit longer and isn't always as intuitive. My point is once you are at that level of comfort it's then just that much harder to relearn, as you agreed with. I also never said that Vista was more advanced, though it is in some ways of course. I think that MS realizes that, and Windows 7 will be more streamlined, much the way Snow Leopard will be. However it's hard to be bothered by the size of the OS when I'm sitting on about 3TB of hard disk space (video edting is a hoggy thing...)
I can appreciate your posting. I think on both sides there are die hard fans.
Once you get your Mac I guess you would the cousin who stops by only on certain holidays: Welcome to the family
HAHA
Yeah I'll be the one off by myself in the corner with the shifty eyes
Great post - I don't agree with all of it, but I appreciate your reasoning. I tend to believe most the MacBook Touch idea - it makes sense that they'd talk about lowering to the 30% margin in order to price something like that competetively enough to get it in the market.
They also are pushing the touch with BTS to increase the installed base for the App store, and perhaps this will intergrate with these plans.
I can see an argument for lowering the general pricing or not, but in either case we will get an upgraded series with Montevina.
It'll be interesting to see what happens over the rest of the year. There's a part of me that says we wouldnt see the MacBook Touch until the keynote in January, but they may push it out sooner, time will tell.
I just can't see a 15" MacBook happening. I think bigger screens are just meant for the Pro models. If you want a bigger screen, then you have to pay up. That is how Apple makes money.
But about the prices, I think I actually could see that happening. But more likely $899 or $999. But who wouldn't love a $799 MacBook, I know I would.
screen size is not the proffit point, imacs and macbooks costs the same, and imac had much larger screen. pricing is an apple-sauce recipe beyond any of our speculations.
I found pictures of a possible new macbook design
Looks quite realistic!
Also backlit keyboard
Comment says: "2 weeks to go
Look for yourself
http://flickr.com/photos/33559336@N00/2675984634/in/photostream/
http://flickr.com/photos/33559336@N00/2675984626/in/photostream/
I hoop this will be the real deisgn
I love that.
i just got a macbook pro and am just hoping the new revs dont have blu-ray drives, that would be unfortunate for me - multi touch is awesome though!
As someone who's used XP since RC1... and still does daily (until Thursday, which I predict to be iMac D-Day).... what do you find in Vista to be superior to that of XP? It's really morbid curiosity at this point...
I don't care if you're a "newbie". That doesn't mean I can't disagree with you. If you haven't noticed, this is a _discussion_ forum.
Sigh, pocket psychologists
Sigh! It's not about "Knowing you". It's about taking your argument and showing you it doesn't hold water. A classic way of doing that is taking the argument to the extreme. If it holds water there too, well, then it works. If it doesn't, well, then it's an invalid argument.
LOL, and you accuse me of not reading your post? First of all, stop with the strawman argumentation: I never said I loved the Newton. I am saying that calling the Touch a "PDA", when it doesn't even have the functionality of a 15 years old PDA is pushing reality quite a bit. It has nothing to do with "love" for the Newton. The thing is, the Newton was before Palm, and as people speak of the Touch being a "PDA", they really should get out of their bubble a bit. Hell, I even mentioned the Somo 650 and the iPaq 200 series for a modern day PDA. But no, you have to pretend I "love" the Newton, that it's about the screen size and so on. Again: my comments about the Touch as a PDA has been about functionality. Apparently that's a hard word to fathom for some people.
See above.
You can tell quite a lot from people's arguments. Especially when they have to resort to strawmen and logical fallacies. The idea of comparing your personality to your argument directly, when you stated that the past didn't matter (well, not in those words) was to show you how ridiculous your _argument_ was. You cannot have an argument that only works in some circumstances where the only difference is whether you choose if it works or not.
Sigh, and you continue your strawmen argumentation. You even act like a third grader with the thinly veiled name calling. Super. Is that really all you can bring to the party?
I don't love the Newton. I'm saying that the Touch is even less of a modern day PDA than the Newton – a fifteen year old product.
Personally as someone thats studied design and works in film, I was tired of looking at the same XP interface after 5 years. The Aero Interface is beautiful, and I ran it on a machine that could execute it without gagging. The other half is the security, I haven't ever had a major virus problem on any of my PCs but the glass-box setup (the maligned user account control) is a great way to keep the thing secure even though I do a lot of downloading. I've found that the ongoing updates have also addressed the concerns that most people have had, the file transfer speed being the main one, as well as streamlining UAC, which is really only a factor when you're first installing things.
So it's aesthetics and security mainly, I could give a crap how much space it takes up, it's not like we have cramped hard drives on desktops.
I can see where people wouldn't want to run it on older machines or worry about bloat on a notebook sized HD.
Windows 7 looks to alleviate many of these concerns, as they're working now to make the code cleaner and simpler so it will scale better to older hardware.
It seems to me a general outlook that Mac people and PC people are different in their attitudes to change. PC people hate change and avoid it whenever possible, where Mac people seem thrilled about the latest iteration of OSX, I have that attitude to Windows, I want the newest version yesteday. I remember when XP came out and everyone was saying that it was horrible and they still liked their Win98SE, and they'd never switch, and it's these same people that are clinging now to XP. (the poor fools that had WinME of course switched so fast your head would spin) XP was a big change, switching over to the NT platform, but you heard all the same things they're saying about Vista now.
If they can get 7 out soon enough then many people will probably just skip Vista, but I think that 7 is going to also look a lot like Vista, again I think there are a lot of parallels between Win7 and Snow Leopard, focusing on improving implementation of what's there and not bells and whistles. A very good idea at least every few releases, to give a solid foundation for future progress.