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Apple to Enter Verizon-AT&T Spat With Two New iPhone Ads

posterized said:
So no iPhone on Verizon?

There goes my hope of switching carriers..
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Why would you say or think that?

Just because Apple returned fire with a friendly jab at Verizon and the Droid and Google OS?!

Look at all the jabs Apple gave MS and we still have Office for Mac.

You think Verizon or Apple would ever look 90 million customers in the face and say no sale to you!
 
nkawtg72 said:
no one has said this is unique to the iPhone. pay attention. this is a NETWORK capability. verizons network can not support simultaneous voice/data access. atts can. period. end of story.

pre is exclusive to sprint still is it not? not familiar with sprint network abilities, but regardless, it has nothing to do with this post.
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The Pre also can't do that, so I don't know what hes talking about.
 
Sorry but AT&T's 3G coverage is so minimal that most iPhone owners can't do that anyway. And I have experienced extremely high call drop frequency as I live and work in San Francisco. My Friends and partners in New York have the same problem. I switched to a BlackBerry Storm 2 on Verizon. Call drops stopped. I have WiFi and I can do this same thing as long as I am on WiFi. But most important to me is not dropping the calls and getting my email quickly.

Sorry to rain on everyone's love of Apple and the iPhone, but I couldn't take it anymore and switched away from it. If Verizon got the iPhone I might try it again, but so far I'm liking the Storm 2 a lot better. Don't care about the Droid either unless it proves to be an excellent business phone with strong support for Exchange. Right now, Blackberry seems to be the best for Exchange.
 
Hahahahahahahahahaha!

I love how it says "Can your phone and your network do that?"

That's amazing. It was done well.
 
Some jackass in another forum took me to task when I pointed out this was the "killer" usage for me in choosing whether to stay on iPhone/AT&T or switch to Droid/Verizon. Challenged me with something along the lines of "why would I want to be rude and surf the web while on the phone with someone?" Nice to see that Apple has elegantly made the point of this very useful AT&T *only* (currently) perk. Maybe that guy will see the commercial and have an "aha!" moment? Nah, trolls don't have "aha!" moments, do they? ;-)
 
nkawtg72 said:
no one has said this is unique to the iPhone. pay attention. this is a NETWORK capability. verizons network can not support simultaneous voice/data access. atts can. period. end of story.

pre is exclusive to sprint still is it not? not familiar with sprint network abilities, but regardless, it has nothing to do with this post.
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Sprint is CDMA, so it's not possible on the Pre either. Maybe you can do it if connected to a WiFi network, but if you're not on WiFi, it's not possible to do simultaneous data and voice on the Pre, and anyone who claims they can is full of ****.
 
its funny because apple is now stepping in to advertise a 3G only feature to combat an ad campaign that points out how small at&t's 3G map is.
 
i took this functionality for granted - i assumed that most smart phones and all networks were capable of it.

it wasn't until at&t started their new ad and i talked to my friend who works at at&t that i found out verizon couldn't due to their technology.
 
Dear Verizon: That slapping sound was the back of Steve Jobs's hand. Get used to it. :D

I'm so glad Apple stepped up to the plate with this. AT&T is just too wussy to handle being attacked like that.
 
seven2k7 said:
Weak commercial. Its coverage not features war.
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Finally, somebody else appears to be paying attention. Verizon attacked AT&T for having awful 3G coverage, and what's AT&T's response? We're going to throw pictures around a map to show you we have coverage in all of these places. Well, Verizon never said you didn't have coverage in those areas - just not 3G coverage. A claim which AT&T still has not refuted.
 
csimmons said:
That's interesting, since I use voice + data on EDGE all the time. (T-Mobile Germany):eek:
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Not possible. You might be picking up wifi, but if the EDGE connection is in use for a voice call, then it isn't available for internet.

If you want to test this, start a call, then go check your email. It won't work. It's also why visual voicemail (which uses some form of an EDGE connection) won't notify you of a voicemail until after you end a call.

Note, this does not impact SMS, so you can text to your hearts content while on a call using EDGE. You just can't do anything that uses the internet connection.
 
Nice way to side-step the important issue, AT&T... Keep it up !
Maybe one day, when you have two clients left, you'll wake up.

Meanwhile, Telus in Canada rocks !
 
ruinfx said:
its funny because apple is now stepping in to advertise a 3G only feature to combat an ad campaign that points out how small at&t's 3G map is.
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AT&T's 3G covers about 75% of all Americans....that's not small. Maybe they don't cover some hillbilly town in the middle of nowhere (at least not yet). But where most of us live/work, they cover. They do where I live/travel.
 
Very good ads.

I still would prefer better coverage than a single feature.
With LTE will that allow for such a feature?
 
kdarling said:
The ads have some risks:

People who are outside of 3G coverage, or who fail back to EDGE because of 3G congestion, are sure to try this out and not understand why it doesn't work.
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no more risk i think than sitting by allowing people who are trying to pick a carrier to believe that they will get more COVERAGE in MORE AREAS with VERIZON over AT&T, regardless of whether it's 3G or not.

i hate to break to all the people who keep posting on this topic whenever it comes up, but there are a massive amount of people out there that just don't understand technology. a lot of people of this forum don't fit that profile. the problem for AT&T and Apple isn't whether Verizon is honest about the 3G coverage or not, it's that Verizon (despite what they have claimed) is counting on people not understanding cellular technology and getting from their ads that if they go to Verizon they'll get MORE coverage.

AT&Ts position is that while technically that may be correct, they have the ability to say "yes, there are areas we don't have 3G. but when that happens, we have other systems in place to pick up the slack."

i'm not defending AT&T hear. while i believe they have invested a lot into upgrading areas, i personally don't think they've done it fast enough. add to that, they have been absolutely horribly at maintaining a relationship with their customers and COMMUNICATING with us. they should be keep us informed and in the loop and doing a better job of PR with that regard. their PR has sucked as bad as their customer service over the years.

regardless, while Verizon may be saying it's all about 3G coverage, in the end it really goes much farther than that. ATT would be stupid to sit by and watch. maybe they'll get their act together improve that coverage in the process.
 
rwilliams said:
Finally, somebody else appears to be paying attention. Verizon attacked AT&T for having awful 3G coverage, and what's AT&T's response? We're going to throw pictures around a map to show you we have coverage in all of these places. Well, Verizon never said you didn't have coverage in those areas - just not 3G coverage. A claim which AT&T still has not refuted.
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The average American doesn't know the difference between 3G/EDGE/GSM or GPRS. So Verizon's claim on 3G can be taken as counts of AT&T not having actual coverage.

AT&T is refuting that, the coverage. Hence these ads.
 
you can do that with wifi on a "regular" phone that accesses the internet...

I'm just saying that because the ads are very good, but also missleading, the user can be at a place where he/she is using wifi and EDGE...

I know that it's known that the ads relate to the 3G coverage but even so...
 
NoExpectations said:
AT&T's 3G covers about 75% of all Americans....that's not small. Maybe they don't cover some hillbilly town in the middle of nowhere (at least not yet). But where most of us live/work, they cover. They do where I live/travel.
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Exactly, AT&T's coverage may not be everywhere but it covers the majority of Americans. I'm sure Verizon's network doesn't cover every part of America or have coverage for everyone. I'm also sure their phones drop calls but yet people want us to believe that never happens on their network.
 
NoExpectations said:
AT&T's 3G covers about 75% of all Americans....that's not small. Maybe they don't cover some hillbilly town in the middle of nowhere (at least not yet). But where most of us live/work, they cover. They do where I live/travel.
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Except that millions of users in major metropolitan areas like NYC & San Francisco repeatedly report horrible reception and frequent dropped calls. AT&T really needs to shore up their network, but that's not secret to anyone.
 
You know what else? You can still use EDGE speeds when you're outside of a 3G area. What happens when you're outside of a Verizon 3G area? You get NOTHING.

Just because Verizon has 3G out in the middle of nowhere (where nobody is trying to use cell phones), doesn't mean Verizon is better. AT&T has 3G coverage where it matters and EDGE coverage everywhere else.

I bet most AT&T customers are on 3G 95% of the time.

I know for a fact that everywhere I go has 3G except for when I go to the middle of nowhere (which isn't very often).
 
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