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Apple to Enter Verizon-AT&T Spat With Two New iPhone Ads
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exactly. verizon is equating no 3G with no service at all. period. they're hoping your average non-techy consumer will interpret it that way too and will choose to go with verizon instead of att.
i've had friends plenty of times who have had no service at all in areas with their verizon phones while i still had edge with my att. i pay att for service(coverage), and for the most part i get it everywhere i go. when it comes to voice calls (depicted in the verizon ads) the difference in 3G voice and Edge voice is incalculable. the only time the 3G would be of any consequence is if surfing the web. as you pointed out though, the ads are showing people loosing voice connections though.
LOL, lots of idealists on this site. Verizon's ads were making the iphone look bad, thats why apple did this. that's called business, not class.
Interesting. Great for Apple, this is a killer feature of the iPhone IMO.
Though, it seems to me like these ads might have already been in development and then they added the "... and network" to the end of "Can you phone and your network do that?" line right at the end. I doubt this is a limitation that Verizon would face should they carry the iPhone.
I think even my dad's Android phone can do that on T-Mobile's network, though I don't know for sure. Haven't used it since I helped him get it setup.
Though, it seems to me like these ads might have already been in development and then they added the "... and network" to the end of "Can you phone and your network do that?" line right at the end. I doubt this is a limitation that Verizon would face should they carry the iPhone.
I think even my dad's Android phone can do that on T-Mobile's network, though I don't know for sure. Haven't used it since I helped him get it setup.
T-Mobile is a GSM carrier so it will work.
It's not a matter of the phone, it's a matter of the network. The cheapest dumbphones on AT&T's (and T-Mobile's) 3G network can do voice and data at the same time. The best phones on Verizon's (and Sprint's) network can't.
Yes
Yes, T-Mobile is a GSM - UMTS/HSDPA like AT&T, albeit on different frequencies. But the ad asks "Can your phone and network do that?" and the answer for me is "Yes", even though I am not using the iPhone or AT&T service.
This is great news.....for areas with AT&T's 3G coverage...........something Verizon brought up and AT&T still doesn't want to talk about.
Verizon also didn't bring up the fact that AT&T's 3g network covers 75 percent of Americans which amounts to over 200 million people. I'm also sure Verizon's network doesn't cover 100 percent of the US or the coverage covers every single person in America.
i certainly sympathize and not saying it's your fault. but if i surrounded my home with concrete and steel structures i'd have service issues too.
it comes with the territory in the big city like that. for the same reason GPS devices have the same problems.
unfortunately though, big city customers eat up more $$ in system improvements for the carriers b/c of those problems. as such, the big city customers tend to be at the back of the line for system upgrades.
those are general statements and my opinion. feel free to critique.
This is great news.....for areas with AT&T's 3G coverage...........something Verizon brought up and AT&T still doesn't want to talk about.
I don't want to hear AT&T talk about it. I'd like to see them do something about it instead.
I had the original iPhone and on Edge I could not do data and a call at the same time. I'm on the 3GS now and can do data and call at the same time on the 3G network, that is assuming I can keep a call going.
I don't know if the it's the iPhone or ATT's network, but I drop calls ALL the time while I'm standing still. It's gotten to the point where I tell people I'm talking to expect me to drop the call and I'll call the right back. Keep in mind this is full bars, etc... "ATT more dropped calls in more places" ftw!
I don't know if the it's the iPhone or ATT's network, but I drop calls ALL the time while I'm standing still. It's gotten to the point where I tell people I'm talking to expect me to drop the call and I'll call the right back. Keep in mind this is full bars, etc... "ATT more dropped calls in more places" ftw!
Until Verizon has the iPhone, or until people actually care about the Android, it's just another loser carrier. The device makes the carrier. Verizon has just about as much influence in the matter as Bill O'Reilly at a Million Man March.
He was referring to the time needed to load webpages, etc. over Edge. That's where the minutes would go... while you and your caller wait.
Irony
The definition of irony... I can talk and browse the web at the same time and yet I still can't listen to Pandora and browse the web at the same time.
At the end of the day though, Verizon has got a point. I live in a major metropolitan area I cannot get 3G at my house which makes the whole argument pointless from my perspective.
The definition of irony... I can talk and browse the web at the same time and yet I still can't listen to Pandora and browse the web at the same time.
At the end of the day though, Verizon has got a point. I live in a major metropolitan area I cannot get 3G at my house which makes the whole argument pointless from my perspective.
Read my previous statement. The one where radio waves are over saturated to the point where people will just not connect. Happens a lot in big cities.
That would be fine how many people would leave AT&T to have a lesser phone. More would want to come to the i-phone side.
Today's MDN Take:
Verizon's wiseassery is going to backfire. The general public was unaware that Verizon's network was incapable of allowing simultaneous voice and data communication; now, with Apple in the equation, everyone and their mother will soon know.
Spot on.
Verizon's wiseassery is going to backfire. The general public was unaware that Verizon's network was incapable of allowing simultaneous voice and data communication; now, with Apple in the equation, everyone and their mother will soon know.
Spot on.
Fail.Protip: this discussion is irrelevent to people living in a state that's entirely outside of the Awesome 3G Network.