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If an iPhone is shutting down with 30% battery charge left, it is faulty end off! I have never had one of the 9 iOS devices I’ve owned turn off at 30%. I would rather have a device perform as expected and sold at max speed until the battery reaches 0% and turns off like all other devices.
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My 6S is perfectly usable and shows no sign from my use of being throttled browsing the web, email, YouTube, yet it heavily is, I haven’t played any games on it for a while though, I suspect they will definitely take a performance hit.

Okay so under typical circumstances, the phone is fine. How is this a bad thing again? Besides them not being transparent about it, I see no issue.
 
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See I’ve never benchmarked my phone. I don’t see the point. Never had a performance issue except for I think iOS 4 and iOS 7 beta days.

Neither do I, but it will show if you play games on your iPhone 6 through to 7 Plus then your gameplay could be affected, although others on here have said they’ve seen bad performance in other areas.
It’s the age old thing just because it’s not affecting you doesn’t mean it’s not happening and affecting others.
 
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Then why is the iPhone 7 being throttled? It's not 2 years old.
Again, none of these phones are being throttled UNLESS their respective batteries have been used up. So an iPhone 7 that still has a substantial battery isn't being throttled until such time the battery/power management code warrants it. They just included the new power management code to 11.2 for WHEN that happens. Seems no one is reading the technical explanation, or cant understand it, or just wants to use this as another reason to complain about Apple. I have a 6s with orig battery and its working just fine. Wife has a 6 with orig battery and when battery gets low it can slow down a bit ( but not unusable warranting/forcing a $1000 purchase as some here would allude to). But she is one who if battery is 60% she is scrambling to charge it. I don't use complete charge cycles daily either so the battery hasn't been used up just yet. I suppose that's why my 6s is still working fine.

But sure I agree Apple should have been forthcoming to let folks know that an aging battery will cause the device to slowdown giving them the option to spend the $$ on a new battery if they wanted out of box performance on older devices or spending those funds upgrading to a newer device. However I also agree that the new power management is certainly better than a device that is unstable and shutting down randomly when you think the battery still has plenty of charge. Guess I had rather have a little slower working phone than a little faster one that is unreliable and rebooting and shutting off when trying to use it.
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But people are stupid, many people it seems, like suing apple for their battery , anything for a buck from the ambulance chasers I guess. The contacts I have in the telco stores there are dozens of people that come in every day with pixel phones, samsung, HTCs and the complaint... "hey my phone has 40% battery and it shuts down", "hey my phone keeps crashing all the time", cause those phones are 18 months to 2 years plus old they exhibit the same issue, but instead of the CPU being throttled, they just suck juice from the old battery as fast as it can, and the battery cant perform, and so the phone crashes, or shuts down. I don't see people loosing their goddamm minds over that. I don't see law suits over that, and they cost just as much to replace the battery as Apple. The customers also say the same thing, I upgraded the OS now it runs slower, its samsung, they want me to buy a new phone, so they made my old phone slower. When its more like there is more higher demanding operations in the new OS and your old samsung cant perform as well. Just like computers .. funny that... when you upgraded to windows 95 on your 386... wow it took and hour just to load the OS.. didn't see people loosing their minds over that, or wanting to sue.

People need to get a grip, and realise not everything is a conspiracy, many of us in the tech industry have been dealing with these issues for decades. Computers age, new operating systems will push older hardware to the limit, to the point when you have to upgrade at some point. this has been tech for 70 years or more, deal with it.

Yea sure Apple should have been more transparent, and made battery replacement cheaper (now done), but id rather my phone work, than shut down and crash all day. As for all the complaints, go back to smoke signals.
Well said! And Spot on.
 
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Good going Apple - doing the right thing! I just hope that I dont have to fight with some moron "Genius" when I go in to replace the battery on my 6S+ next month (currently at 511 cycles, 77% wear according to coconut).

So, you do know there are other factors that can lead to battery life issues. Besides, coconut isn't needed to see whether your device battery is failed of consumed. You can go the battery menu under settings and see if your battery needs to be serviced.

Honestly I have no love loss for the "moron" geniuses you speak of, but sometimes people tend to approach technicians wanting them to confirm their suspicions instead of embracing actual solutions to their problems.. Just a thought
 
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All the info released so far indicates that Apple is intentionally under-sizing their iPhone battery designs, not that there currently doesn’t exist a battery technology that can support the design. They could have used (slightly) larger batteries.

Slightly larger batteries would not help, the new high-end 64-bit processor cores are designed for batteries the size of an iPad Pro. No one buys mobile phones that large.
 
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Slightly larger batteries would not help, the new high-end 64-bit processor cores are designed for batteries the size of an iPad Pro. No one buys mobile phones that large.
I don't actually know if what you said is true, but I find myself in complete agreement with you.
 
Have you tested her 6S with CPU Dasher? To see if it’s being throttled?
That statement is priceless. If you have to use a benchmark app to see if your device is lower than when it came out of box (on paper) do you really have an issue? I mean if you cant tell just by using it when why the uproar?
 
Slightly larger batteries would not help, the new high-end 64-bit processor cores are designed for batteries the size of an iPad Pro. No one buys mobile phones that large.

And yet, I can go all day and most of the next with my 8 Plus not being charged. Amazing what a 64 bit core can do on such a tiny device.

Anymore FUD to spread?
 
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I don't get why some of you hate, blame name call the geniuses that work at apple. They have no say on this and just trying to do their job. Shame on you people.
 
What annoys me about this and other things like it is that it sets the precedent that an uninformed public can develop an "outcry" over anything get a result out of Apple. Real shame. The public didn't deserve this level of compromise from Apple. Intelligent CPU management of a device powered by lithium-ion battery is expected and appropriate, and really no one's business besides the engineers.


Wrong. No other major manufacturer employees these practices. And for whatever reason, slowing your device, very expensive device, down 35% without notification or clear explanation beforehand is flat out wrong.
 
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And yet, I can go all day and most of the next with my 8 Plus not being charged. Amazing what a 64 bit core can do on such a tiny device.

A lot of that is due to Apple’s very intelligent power management, plus a mix of both high and low processor power cores on the A11.

It could be that this whole battery lawsuit thing was just a trick so that Apple’s competition can learn more about how to do proper battery and power management for optimal performance.
 
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That statement is priceless. If you have to use a benchmark app to see if your device is lower than when it came out of box (on paper) do you really have an issue? I mean if you cant tell just by using it when why the uproar?

Yeap, Apple didn’t tell me they were throttling my iPhone to half it’s performance. Browsing Safari or YouTube doesn’t take a lot of power, still doesn’t take away from the phones performance being artificially strangled.
I will see what the 3D Mark scores are with the battery at 100% as that will have a direct impact on games performance..

And as I also said previously, just because you don’t have a problem doesn’t mean no one else has. I don’t live in a place where earthquakes happen, doesn’t mean I go around calling anyone who has had one a liar or being drama queens about it!!
 
I have a valid question and I'm not trying to be funny. So when Apple quotes at keynotes that the current iPhone gets 10 hrs LTE and 11 hrs Wifi times are they achieving these times based on this info that performance is being reduced to conserve battery? Or is this something totally separate?
 
I have a valid question and I'm not trying to be funny. So when Apple quotes at keynotes that the current iPhone gets 10 hrs LTE and 11 hrs Wifi times are they achieving these times based on this info that performance is being reduced to conserve battery? Or is this something totally separate?

No because they have only installed this software on the iPhone 6 and 6S and 7.
According to Apple that is anyway.
 
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Again, none of these phones are being throttled UNLESS their respective batteries have been used up. So an iPhone 7 that still has a substantial battery isn't being throttled until such time the battery/power management code warrants it. They just included the new power management code to 11.2 for WHEN that happens.


So apple has so much confidence in their battery's and phones that they included the throttling on phones that are a little over a year old. That is not great either.

You can say what you want, Apple hid this from the consumer. It was wrong, plain and simple. If your example is correct and you are using an original 6 and 6s with no battery issues, the shutdown was limited to the phones Apple is doing the free battery replacement on and this was designed to slow phones down to encourage people to purchase new phones.
 
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A lot of that is due to Apple’s very intelligent power management, plus a mix of both high and low processor power cores on the A11.
This, plus the fact the older phones have older processors probably not optimized for the new code in the new OS's. Just a guess folks, no piling on please.
 
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