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Your right, nothing "feels" as natural as going without a case. But shouldn't you be concerned about protection? There are cases out there that are thinner, that can give you that natural feel. You just have to find them.

Am I the only one seeing a condom allegory here? :D
 
What's the fuss all about

Can't believe all this fuss.

My iPhone 4 here in London has worked fine since the day I got it.

Sure - if I hold the phone in a certain way the signal bars drop - but as has been proved, that's the case with all phones.

I would be that that Terryxy chap - who said he is going to get a droid - has absolutely no intention of doing so though !
 
Lets see how many people actually ask for a refund. Those stats will be the most telling of all.

Absolutely, I think Steve displaying the amount of people who have contacted AppleCare is a pretty useless statistic. It's been a very well documented issue and people have realised calling them has been futile.

As LondonCentral has quite rightly pointed out the real statistic will be how many return the phone now Apple has revealed their hand.
 
Apple is still extremly arrogant! Talking ************ and trying to slip out of the issue. The other phones they displayed definitly dont have this signal problems.
The issue is a fundamental design problem. the only way to solve this problem for a 1000 € phone would be a recall and a redesigned antenna system.

otherwise this one will be my last apple product.
Apple go somewhere else to rip of customers. not me again.
Great second post to this forum.
 
Been saying this all along

I find it interesting that as I still have a 3GS, i started having bad connection issues at my home right after I updated to ios4. I have lived here ever since cell phones were invented and always have had perfect reception here. Now texts don't always go through and I have to walk outside 3/4 of the time to make or receive a call.

IOS 4 devices are exacerbating ATT's network problems. I have both a 3GS and an iphone 4.

The later is the one with the problems.
 
We all get have heard this before...and today with Jobs. However:

1)What about that lovely 2-year contract you may have signed with ATT?

2)What about if you RENEWED your ATT contract?

Jobs didn't address those 2 questions.



I think Jobs basically just sidelined the issue...stating 100 times that every phone on the planet has reception problems. I've had 2 Nokias, 1 Motorola, and 1 iPhone 3GS over the past 12 years...0...I will say it again...0 of them have ANY problems in regards to holding the phone and losing reception. This iPhone 4 reception issue is the first time I, and likely a large percentage of other people on the planet, have ever heard of a cell phone that sucks when you hold it. You mean to tell me that cellular technology that has saturated our lives over the past 10+ years now suddenly is admitting some kind of caveat with antennas? I don't think so. My wife's 2 Blackberries and 2 Nokias over the past 8+ years never had such an antenna problem either.

Basically Apple won't fix the problem...the WORKAROUND is to put a stupid case over it. The fix is a relocation/redesign of the antenna.

-Eric

yes he did you can end your att contract if you like...
 
You don't even have one and your complaining, this is exactly what Jobs was talking about. "all these issues"??????

Why not buy it and SEE if you have an issue!

You have after all 30 days to return it so what's the big deal.

It's a lot better than coming on here and making this ridicules ultimatums without even experiencing the phone in your environment.

Put your money where your mouth is pal, if your such an apple fan boy, what happen to your trust in a company that has always done the right thing by you?

Your an example of the whiners and the prophets of the doomsday scenario. Plainly reacting to stuff you read and not stuff you experience.

Enjoy your 3Gs!
I've heard more complaints from people that DO NOT own an iPhone, than from people that do...LOL
 
We should all rejoice in the fact that Apple has yet to decide to get into the electrical outlet business.
 
What a terrible press conference for Apple. Attack the press and essentially blame them for showing people the "secret spot" they shouldn't touch. As if we wouldn't have figured it out for ourselves. Then they suggest that every phone does this, even though we all know the iPhone 4 does it the worst. Every argument they tried was essentially fanboy message board material. Not an honest admission of what we all know. The phone's antenna signal is way to easily interfered with.

The only positive is the free cases for everyone, but even that is only a bandaid and we're all left wondering when a true hardware fix will come, and you can be certain it will come eventually.
 
I'd like to know what Apple's figures say about how many phones are affected rather than how many users. A phone could be affected without the owner even being aware of it - until some point in the future when he/she is in a different environment. To talk about how many owners are affected should be caveated with 'so far'
 
So I noticed, the bumper now says black. there are no color choices, so the free bumper will only be black?
 
my take on this is that as of right now apple had to pick the option that would please the most people and keep the most customers satisfied, and clear their name of this tech drama, without taking too much of a risk. I think the case solution is fine, and i think this comes with the territory of being early adopters. Now I'm sure they are working on a fix, if not have already figured it out, but they're obviously not going to state that at the press conference, because everyone and there technologically savvy grandparents are going to return it and wait till the next waive comes out.
My personal experience has been yeah I can make the problem occur if i consciously try, but if I'm just using it normally I haven't had problems.And as humans, once we know a problem exists, we forever try to seek out the problem, and pay attention to it.
And really if any of you are unhappy with all this just return the phone and stop complaining. :)
 
Look how frak'n hard this guy is squeezing the phone.

Btw, why didn't the competitors phones get the 'blue room' test that the iPhone got. Doesn't seem consistent... plus this hand model is trying to break that phone... look at the red areas
 

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A bit of perspective!

I am sick and tired of all the Apple fanboys protecting their beloved Steve Jobs over this travesty, let's get things into some sort of perspective!

Apart from the antenna issue most reviews say the iPhone 4 is the best smartphone ever which has some great and unique features like the retina display.
The fact that only a small percentage have complained is clearly down to intimidation by the Apple stormtroopers (I know they exist) and the threat of humiliation on various Apple biased blogs.
Anyway, as Apple's design is so great elsewhere, they clearly f***ed up the antenna deliberately because really they hate us all and they're laughing at us! Even now as you're reading this! They even have a fix for the antenna on hand, but will refuse to release it until iP5 when they'll add another fault, just for the hell of it. The b******s!

And all this on the same day that those "heroes" at BP finally put a cap on the leaking well, which is all pretty trivial really, I mean oil's great and runs my car and it was only going into the sea, so no real harm...I mean I'm not a fish, I don't care, it's not like it's as important as my phone or anything. I wasn't planning to vacation on the Gulf anyway, and if I did it would be cheap now so well done BP is what I say!
At least they're not trying to ruin my life like Apple are. Honestly, making me use a free bumper or even worse giving me a full refund!! Outrageous.

I say that we should have a ticker tape parade through NYC for the "heroes" at BP whilst each and every Apple employee is crucified along the side of the streets.
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apple cares??

Today apple came clean and prove they don’t really care about costumers, if it wasn’t for consumer reports the only answer you get from apple was : non issue, hold it another way, free bumpers no way what part of non issue you don’t get?

Fortunately the iphone is not only a fanboy product. Fanboys can leave with answers like non issue, now that apple has acknowledge the issue what … what fanboys??
 
Given that they demonstrated those phones experiencing the exact same issue - what are you basing your statement on, exactly?

Explain why a case alleviates the problem. Explain why a case works with phones where the antenna is not exposed.
 
1)What about that lovely 2-year contract you may have signed with ATT?
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/legal/return-policy.jsp

"Service Cancellation & Early Termination Fee
Call the number on your invoice/receipt to cancel your service. You may cancel service within 30 days from the activation date to avoid the applicable early termination fee (the "Early Termination Fee" or "ETF")."

So, just like the iPhone 4, you have 30 days after the date of purchase to cancel your AT&T contract without any fees.
 
Wow, just Wow.

Jobs just held a press conference, and basically said "no issue, but take a free bumper to shut up - just because we love you".

Wow. Apple admits that they are selling a handheld phone that can't be held in your hand (unless you're very close to a cell tower).

And part of the argument was "it doesn't drop very many more calls than other Iphones" - when the dropped call issue has made the Iphone 1G/2G/3G absolute laughingstocks in the US.

Jobs: "The Iphone 4 is not that much worse than the last Iphone".

Wow. Jobs is rearranging the deck chairs.
 
since when has 100% been considered a "very small proportion"?

Every single person can duplicate this, it is a design flaw.

Not me. I've held my phone every way I could because I have a proximity sensor issue (Apple please fix!) but I've never had a signal issue no matter how I held it. I think the customer service is great. A free case is WAY better than I ever got from Sprint.
 
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