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I remember I've read somewhere that Ming Chi-Kuo is a woman, so all of you referring to him as stupid are obviously wrong :D

No, he's a man.
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Basically all of this is guessable or you can use the power of deduction. He can either have inside information or guess. He mostly guesses. If you are really interested in this you can start guessing just as good as he or better.

I think it's been sort of confirmed that he has contacts within several of the supply chain manufacturers, rather than Apple itself. So he knows about large orders for different materials or components. This allows him to speculate a little on how Apple might be using those components. That's why he's had a lot of hits over the years, but the occasional miss. Presumably some of his misses were actually Apple prototypes that never made it to market.
So he's not just guessing, but extrapolating from some kind of inside knowledge.
 
No, he's a man.
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I think it's been sort of confirmed that he has contacts within several of the supply chain manufacturers, rather than Apple itself. So he knows about large orders for different materials or components. This allows him to speculate a little on how Apple might be using those components. That's why he's had a lot of hits over the years, but the occasional miss. Presumably some of his misses were actually Apple prototypes that never made it to market.
So he's not just guessing, but extrapolating from some kind of inside knowledge.

Simple deduction. Nothing to see here. Move along.
 
What I don't get here is the problem Apple is currently experiencing, namely declining iPhone sales, according to several reports. So they really need something new and big to boost sales. But an iPhone 7 that basically looks like an iPhone 6(s) isn't going to help them very much I think. Some minor upgrades like a new camera should be on a S upgrade cycle and not on a major release. A new design this fall and next year an upgraded display (AMOLED) sounds promising, but I don't hink this is going to happen. Still, it will be interesting to see whether people with an iPhone 6 will upgrade or wait until next year. This could lead to weaker iPhones sales, not something Apple wants to report to their shareholders.
 
I like the idea of going back to a glass back plate. It would make the phone much more gripy, less slippery than the 6-6s.
If they manage to keep the curvy design of the 6 line with back and front glass panels, it'll look really sexy. And they could still anodize the metal frame in gold, space gray and rose gold, or whatever new shades they come up with.
Downside might be a heavier handset and a chip and/or shattering increased risk.
With an OLED screen they could ditch side edges and thus reducing the size of the phone overall.
 
This rumor makes no sense to me. Apple needs iPhone 7 to be a new design or have a significant internal upgrade. Assuming a significant internal upgrade is reserved for the 7S, why would they hold back on a new design?
 
All those 2017 rumors make me less excited about the 2016 iPhone

Yup - helped make the decision to get an SE now (to replace a 5S), and then maybe upgrade again in 2017, which sounds like its going to be the year things get a bit more of a refresh.
 
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Do we really think that Apple would either (1) not release an updated design for 2016, extending the iPhone 6 design across three years instead of the average 2, or (2) release updated designs in both 2016 and 2017? Both options seem unlikely to me.

i say #1.
expect a minor design update for 2016, like, repositioned antenna bands, perhaps remove the camera bulge (this is just my personal wish, maybe not happening), but not more.
other rumors already point toward a 2017 full redesign: AMOLED display, no 3.5mm jack, bigger 5.8" display. nothing concrete about 2016 so far.
 
yep... ive pretty much decided now that I'm holding onto my 6 and skipping this years iPhone 7 and waiting for next years.
so many rumours pointing to a MUCH better upgrade in the 7S or whatever they call it.
 
NO PROTRUSIONS LIKE PROTRUDING CAMERAS, PLEASE! SMOOTH AND ELEGANT ALL WAY ROUND.

As previously stated before any of these rumors:
The next iPhone design will be...
- all glass, including a single flat glass front and a single uni glass back (flat glass back with curved glass edges that meet the glass front).
- antenna bands will run inside the glass and be hidden from view
- a dual camera will be hidden inside and not protruding, it will be able to be used underwater.
- the front glass will use a semi mirror finish to obscure and neaten up front facing camera and sensor holes.
- the uni glass back will be coloured inside in one of six colours; black, white, silver, gold, rose gold and deep ocean blue.
- the home button will be removed and instead Touch ID will be incorporated into the entire front glass as will 3d touch which brings users back to home with a deep press.
- the volume control buttons will be combined into the ringer/silent switch.
- the internal will be enclosed in water resistant packaging.
 
iPhone 7 will feature a new design in September 2016.
Apple will launch the iPhone 7 and 7 plus in September.

Apple will release a iPhone (7) pro in April 2017, with an oled display and new materials.
They' ll release it with the new iPad pro' s 9.7 and 12.9 inch .
So the pro line up will be refreshed each April with the newest hw and features at a higher price. The regular line-up will be released on September with features based on the pro line-up.
 
Where would Apple be financially today if the iPhone never existed? I think there's something special coming next year. After all, Tim and company needs that BAM moment when they introduce a redesigned iPhone next year after spending a few minutes going down ten years of iPhone memory lane.


1. iPhones took Apple to the next level. I can see this being a special event for Apple.

2. They do except we know the S cycles won't be as huge as redesign years.

3. So they will get 3 years out of the 6 design. If the serious redesign occurs next year, then while it seems like they skipped an S cycle, they didn't because this year is shaping up to be an S revision. The 2017 model I imagine it will be called iPhone 8 and back to the tick tock cycle.

4. Yea, but tell me when was the last time you were surprised going into a product launch not knowing pretty much everything that would be presented except for the name and pricing?

Sure, but again, Apple historically isn't a big anniversary company. The Mac only got an "anniversary edition" at #20. Apple would not even exist to make an iPhone if there never was a Mac. For about 33 years the Mac was Apple's core product with everything else being a peripheral or accessory that depended on the Mac.

Also before the iPhone saved Apple, the iPod/iTunes did, yet Apple never combined Anniversary marketing w/ the iPod, just as it never did, save the 20th anniv Mac, for the Mac. I don't see why the iPhone is going to be different than business as usually: try to put out the best iPhone possible.

Anniversary editions are pure kitsch marketing when there is no underlying product. Apple wants every model to be seen as "special," not just ones on random anniversaries.

To the other points:

1. Except for maybe the 6s, all other s years have outsold the previous non-s model, so your contention is #2 is not accurate. As for the 6s it's probable that a lot of users jumped early on the 6/6+ with the size change leaving them to skip the S this time. It doesn't mean the S will continue to be outsold by the previous non-S model though. Too soon to tell. Also the 6 was sold when many cellcos still offered a subsidized plan.

2. Could be 2017 is a reset year, but again, Kuo offers zero evidence for his rationale. He just vomits out speculation without any basis for his belief. Logically it makes no sense given the iPhone 7 needs to be seen as a blockbuster or the media view will be the iPhone has peaked. That will make an all-new 2017 model too late to "save" the iPhone. And again, if it's glass, and it's heavy, that will ruin iPhone for sure, not propel it to the next level.

3. Not sure what your point is about being "surprised." But we are just getting bits about the iPhone 7. Way too early to speculate about the model after that one. Certainly Kuo has no access to the many prototypes Apple is working on based on his previous speculation on products far out from introduction.
 
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Glass looks better than aluminium but breaks easily, isn't there another material that feels like glass but is more shatterproof? Isn't ceramic more durable?

Brilliant! Ceramic phones in crazy colors would be amazing and incredibly durable maybe you're the first person to ever think of it?
 
But what about thermals? The casing needs to conduct the heat produced by the hardware. Plain glass is not able to do that.
Perhaps they are waiting for 10 nm socs to make it possible .

Still hoping for liquid metal.
 
Kuo is not OFTEN ACCURATE, I'm tired of this crappy trope.

Kuo issues a new rumor every single day; so having a few turn up true is almost a god damn sure thing hey.

Check out confirmation bias whole slew of echo chamber rumor sites; Kuo makes money of you being naive and desperate.

The very fact Kuo issues all sort of, Apple does this for this motivation, makes me think this person is taking the piss out of everyone all the way to the bank.


Well, we've seen numerous people in this thread post links to rumors where many times Ming's been right. Can you provide a list that backs up your dispute?
 
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You're overcharging the battery by using it while plugged in at 100% for long periods of time. This causes the battery to swell and press against the screen.

On your new battery, keep the charge between 40 to 80% while plugged in (yes, unplugging it at 80%) and run a charge cycle once a month from 20% to 100%. The battery will last much longer and won't swell.


I'm pretty sure this is completely incorrect. An iPhone doesn't "overcharge" if you leave it plugged in. It stops charging once its fully charged automatically. Why in the world would I only charge my phone to 80% on a daily basis, and how exactly would anyone even do that if most people plug it in at night when they go to bed???

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201569
 
Most people will have a case, so it is not really going to matter. The main thing with Apple is they've done incremental design changes and updates, while other companies have essentially thrown the kitchen sink at trying to beat Apple. There are now so many options with different innovative directions that going back to glass will still feel incremental and bland. Seriously, is changing the aluminum to glass that exciting?

With that said, it would be more interesting if they used a different transparent material that also allows signaling to transfer. Maybe if they use something like aluminum oxynitride (Transparent Aluminum) it would be more exciting and interesting.
 
does she wear a case? Or maybe she's extra careful. But I knew tons of people who had shattered backs of their iphone 4 and 4s.
And so do I. I have shattered my iPhone 4 back. Feels dangerous to hold at hand. Don't want to use a case, though.
 
iPhone 7 will feature a new design in September 2016.
Apple will launch the iPhone 7 and 7 plus in September.

Apple will release a iPhone (7) pro in April 2017, with an oled display and new materials.
They' ll release it with the new iPad pro' s 9.7 and 12.9 inch .
So the pro line up will be refreshed each April with the newest hw and features at a higher price. The regular line-up will be released on September with features based on the pro line-up.

So you're saying that they'll have 4 versions: 7, 7 Plus, SE, and Pro? That seems like it would really strain their supply chain and manufacturing.
 
Can really do without more glass! Especially if Apple maintain the larger form factors! They'll have to "live" in a case which I think will negate the use colour in the cases??

Apple store choices: Front White or Black?

... will be the only real choices!
 
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Actually, I can see the logic if this were true. They can reposition themselves against the increased competition by diversifying the range and having a flagship phone packed with greater patent protected functionality and form.

Liquid metal, distance wireless charging, wireless headphone format etc. The sort of things that will not be so easy to be ripped off by the Chinese clones, or at very least, earn Apple extra patent income if they do.

Clearly they can’t get the tech ready in time for 2016, so the 10th Anniversary is a good excuse to change strategy. A cycle reboot something like this:

2016
iPhone 7 – Phone upgrade to the core product.
iPhone 7 XL - Phablet upgrade to core product.

2017
iPhone Pro – Liquid metal, wireless charging AMOLED curved super flagship.
iPhone SE2 – Small ,budget option for world market, using tech from the 7.

2018
iPhone 8 – Phone upgrade to the core product. Starts to take tech from the iPhone Pro.
iPhone 8 XL - Phablet upgrade to core product. Starts to take tech from iPhone Pro.

2019
iPhone Pro 2 – Newest patented tech flagship.
iPhone SE3 - Small budget option for world market, using tech from the 8.

2020
iPhone 9 - Phone upgrade to the core product. Starts to take tech from the iPhone Pro 2.
iPhone 9 XL - Phablet upgrade to core product. Starts to take tech from iPhone Pro 2.

A cycle like this would balance the income more effectively. Year 1 - Core product, high margin. Year 2 - Flagship and Budget, premium margin and low margin. It will utilise the components in an optimum manner and diversify the range, lowering the risk if one line is not well received.

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