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Did you have them looked at?

My late 2015 5K iMac runs dead cool, no matter what I'm doing. FCP X editing/rendering, Ableton, four streams of IP cameras, whatever. Put my hand in back over the vent and I feel air that is barely warm. No fan noise to speak of, I have to put my ear to the back to tell if its running.

A huge difference from my 2012 27" iMac which was always toasty on the top when just surfing the web.

It's a beautiful machine with a gorgeous display.

Likewise, the ones we have at work run very cool no matter what they're doing. The machine OP had must have been defective somehow.

I think Apple has finally perfected the iMac with the current 5K line. They're hard to service, sure, but if component reliability is as good as I've seen at work with the few dozen we have, it won't matter much!
 
Thinking about upgrading, how much do you think I could sell a 15" RMBP for? It's the top of the line model with the graphics card.
 
Hmmm...new MacBook Pro + 5K Thunderbolt Display or new 5K iMac and keep my 12-inch MacBook for portability? Perhaps the ultimate first world problem of 2016;)

Pros/Cons of Option 1: MacBook Pro + 5K Display
Pros
  • Just one Mac to manage and worry about
  • More powerful portable
  • Display will last a long time
Cons
  • Less powerful desktop
  • Heavier portable
  • Need to plug in a cord every time you sit down

Pros/Cons of Option 2: 5K iMac and keep my 12-inch MacBook
Pros
  • No compromises, super powerful desktop
  • Ultra-portable notebook
Cons
  • Need to manage multiple Macs, using semi-unreliable services like Back to my Mac and iCloud to unify the file systems
  • Less powerful portable
I frankly side with option 2. The option affords you the use of an ultrabook style machine that you will truly carry every where and be a real asset. The iMac will cover your heavy lifting needs.

I am going to do what i call option 3. I am going to get a ultra portable then also get a new 15. I already unloaded my iMac from 2011. The retina macbook i have now will slide nicely into desk duty in place of the old iMac for work horse duty.

This provides me and my SO an ultraportable a work horse portable and a nice steady state machine for the house. I am flexible on if i sell my 2012 macbook retina 15. I was never a super large fan of this model it had to many issues and strange behavior for changing to the dedicated graphics where it flashes the screen.

This now sir is truly a first world problem. I see your first world problem and raise you

:)
 
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Did you have them looked at?

My late 2015 5K iMac runs dead cool, no matter what I'm doing. FCP X editing/rendering, Ableton, four streams of IP cameras, whatever. Put my hand in back over the vent and I feel air that is barely warm. No fan noise to speak of, I have to put my ear to the back to tell if its running.

A huge difference from my 2012 27" iMac which was always toasty on the top when just surfing the web.

It's a beautiful machine with a gorgeous display.

Which model do you have? The m395X?
 
I'm still not quite sure how I feel about the OLED strip. I mean, sure, it's a nice improvement on a printed line of keys, but in this day of full-touch screens, it seems a little like something we would have seen in 2005, when every square centimeter of full-color touch was super-expensive and a full strip would have been a cool innovation. But today, with dozens of touch laptops out there, it just seems kind of sad -- especially an entire decade after Apple itself introduced the first true full-color touch-screen experience. I mean, it's progress, but boy is it not exciting or innovative. When's the last time we've seen something truly exciting from Apple?
 
AMD is for graphics chips... I don't see Apple switching to AMD for the main processor. Unless of course AMD starts fabricating custom ARM SOCs for Apple.

The new AMD Zen CPU to be released in October may be a game changer.
 
It's called the MacBook.
Frankly I don't know why Apple is cluttering up its laptop line. I hope they clarify at some point soon.

And I'm guessing Apple has all but abandoned the Mac mini.

I would like Apple to also clarify where the iPad Air/Pro lines are going.
 
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Just what everyone wants, a pro machine that has stripped out connectivity, a gimmicky OLED touch panel (that nobody other than Apple is going to support), crappy keyboard... but it's thinner! I am really sorry to be so negative but after such an inexcusably long update drought, it looks like Apple is too focused on making gadgets. Seriously, "Pro" is serious. Pro should not be super thin and compromised. Drop in a suitable modern CPU and dGPU, user serviceable HD, RAM. Add modern data ports, HDMI, MagSafe.
 
I wonder how man my iterations of the MBP are going to be released that aren't user upgradable before people let it go. It's not coming back, at least not in the foreseeable future and if it does it'll be due to radical changes in technology.

Let it go already. If you need that, you need to look elsewhere.

I've been waiting for the upgrade for a while. I picked up a stopgap machine last October from Craig's List figuring I'd flip it a couple months later. Haha. Oops.

After over half a year I can say I really want to return to the land of 13". 15" is a bit bigger than I like when I'm having to use the machine away from a desk.
 
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Glad to see that MBAs will be updated/tweaked. Skylake and faster RAM would be awesome. It would be nice if they also got a slightly higher resolution without going full-blown retina.

Makes a great machine at the value end.

If my laptop broke today, an MBA is what I would get.

I'm not interested in the new gizmos that the rMBP will bring, no matter what it brings. It will take a year or two to work through the kinks and get it right.
 
I am so disgusted with Apple's decision to stick with AMD cards. They are both less powerful AND less power efficient than Nvidia's cards. It's at the point now where Nvidia feels almost a full generation ahead of AMD in both raw compute and power efficiency.

I guess anything that adds a few more tenths of a percentage point to Apple's margins is perfectly acceptable these days though....

AMD Polaris was meant to change this.
 
First Machines Using Kaby Lake Processors Coming This Fall, but MacBook Pro Not Likely Among Them

Really sad if this headline turns out to be true. Apple never used to fall so far behind on the new Intel chips, even if it meant refreshing a product that would be redesigned only later that year.

The chips appropriate for MBP will not be out until probably mid-2017, just like the Skylake chips most likely to end up in this year's MBP just came out despite what all the armchair engineers in these forums say.
 
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Just what everyone wants, a pro machine that has stripped out connectivity, a gimmicky OLED touch panel (that nobody other than Apple is going to support), crappy keyboard... but it's thinner! I am really sorry to be so negative but after such an inexcusably long update drought, it looks like Apple is too focused on making gadgets. Seriously, "Pro" is serious. Pro should not be super thin and compromised. Drop in a suitable modern CPU and dGPU, user serviceable HD, RAM. Add modern data ports, HDMI, MagSafe.

USB-C is a modern data port though.
 
I'm confused by the Air mention in this story — I seriously don't see them implementing new screens or updated ports. I was fully expecting the last bump to be its last breath of life to keep it around til next year when they can lower the MacBook entry price point. It makes no sense to keep the Air brand alongside the lighter/thinner MacBook from a marketing standpoint any longer than absolutely necessary. Maybe they drop in a newer processor? Iffy.
 
I saw "AMD iMac" in the title and freaked out, thinking they were putting in AMD CPUs. False alarm. It's just the GPU, which also shouldn't be AMD if it's consumer-level, but it's already been done before.
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No-one has gone before. Next Gen for the win. ;)
No, ToS is clearly better. TNG was alright but was too much an attempt to make it like Star Wars.
 
Just what everyone wants, a pro machine that has stripped out connectivity, a gimmicky OLED touch panel (that nobody other than Apple is going to support), crappy keyboard... but it's thinner! I am really sorry to be so negative but after such an inexcusably long update drought, it looks like Apple is too focused on making gadgets. Seriously, "Pro" is serious. Pro should not be super thin and compromised. Drop in a suitable modern CPU and dGPU, user serviceable HD, RAM. Add modern data ports, HDMI, MagSafe.

Suitable modern CPU and dGPU chips for MBP are just now becoming available at roughly the same time, despite what you deem to be inexcusable.

Seriously, Thunderbolt 3 over USB-C at 40Gbps isn't "modern data port" enough for you?

The hand-wringing over the yet-unseen OLED strip is ridiculous. You guys really think Apple's going to go for a gimmick feature on its flagship laptop with no real-world benefit to the user experience? No.
 
Maybe i'll take my Mac to the store when they're released and do a side by side to see what is different. I can comprehend of course but there's nothing like seeing side by side.
 
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