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Which Apple TV will you get?


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Here is an excellent article on how to decide between the 32 and 64 GB versions.
http://www.imore.com/should-you-buy-32-gb-or-64-gb-new-apple-tv
The article some flawed math to assess the value. Its reasoning: 32 GB for $149 means $4.66 per GB, while 64 GB for $199 means $3.11 per GB. The problem is...

The price isn't just for the memory, it's for other components in the box as well (and the box itself). So let's say the ATV4 would cost $99 if you had no memory in it. That means $49 for 32 GB and $99 for 64 GB. Which is basically the same price per GB.
 
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The article some flawed math to assess the value. Its reasoning: 32 GB for $149 means $4.66 per GB, while 64 GB for $199 means $3.11 per GB. The problem is...

The price isn't just for the memory, it's for other components in the box as well (and the box itself). So let's say the ATV4 would cost $99 if you had no memory in it. That means $49 for 32 GB and $99 for 64 GB. Which is basically the same price per GB.
It is what it is, my friend.
 
Until we know for sure what the offline storage capabilities will be, I don't think anyone can really make a decision on storage based on their expected usage. If you can store content in the ATVs storage, then 64GB is probably worth it. If it's intelligent enough, for example, to pre-load the next 3 episodes of the shows you're watching on Netflix (from the recently played list, for example), then 64GB is totally worth it. If none of that is possible, and all media will be streamed as normal, then 32GB is the way to go. Until this is answered, it's a crapshoot.

Those pre-ordering will have to just go with gut feeling, and how much they are willing to pay.
 
The article some flawed math to assess the value. Its reasoning: 32 GB for $149 means $4.66 per GB, while 64 GB for $199 means $3.11 per GB. The problem is...

The price isn't just for the memory, it's for other components in the box as well (and the box itself). So let's say the ATV4 would cost $99 if you had no memory in it. That means $49 for 32 GB and $99 for 64 GB. Which is basically the same price per GB.

They are making a cateris paribus comparison. It's valid. It's widely accepted that higher storage capacities have a lower cost per gb.
 
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At first I was thinking 32gb would be plenty for apps since I won't be gaming. But if Apple allows us to store purchased content from iTunes and maybe the ability to store Apple Music content locally for offline use, then I would go for the 64gb option.
 
At first I was thinking 32gb would be plenty for apps since I won't be gaming. But if Apple allows us to store purchased content from iTunes and maybe the ability to store Apple Music content locally for offline use, then I would go for the 64gb option.

why you would want to offline use for music and movies? you realize it's a always connected to wifi
 
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At first I was thinking 32gb would be plenty for apps since I won't be gaming. But if Apple allows us to store purchased content from iTunes and maybe the ability to store Apple Music content locally for offline use, then I would go for the 64gb option.

Why though? Are you ever going to need to use your Apple TV when you're not connected to the Internet? Do you have severely restricted bandwidth?
 
Why though? Are you ever going to need to use your Apple TV when you're not connected to the Internet? Do you have severely restricted bandwidth?

Yes, I will have many occasions when I would be able to use offline storage. I would love to be able to sync some of my iTunes movies/tv shows to it and take it with me on business trips for watching in the hotel, many of which have horrible internet service. Also do deer camp where we have a TV but no internet, so I currently bring a Blu-Ray player and a bunch of discs every year.

Pretty much the same reasons I have the DirecTV genie go and use it for recordings on my iPad. I'm hoping they make a Genie Go app for the Apple TV too if the app rules allow it. Save me from having to buy the Lightning to HDMI adaptor later this year when I upgrade my 3 red gen iPad (which I have the 30 pin to HDMI adaptor for). The adapters work ok, but it is a pain having to get up and walk over to the iPad if you need to pause, rewind, etc. would be much nicer to play directly from the appletv and use the remote.
 
At first I was thinking 32gb would be plenty for apps since I won't be gaming. But if Apple allows us to store purchased content from iTunes and maybe the ability to store Apple Music content locally for offline use, then I would go for the 64gb option.

64gb is very small for a stationary media device in one's home to store content. If Apple meant for the Apple TV to store content they would have at least made the device have 500gb ( which is still very low). Apple moved away from local content with the ATV2. Why would they go backwards??

Same reason you would want to store media on your Apple Watch, iPad, iPhone and MacBook.

The Apple TV is not a mobile device. iTunes on your PC is where you store offline content. This is where Homesharing come in.
 
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Yes, I will have many occasions when I would be able to use offline storage. I would love to be able to sync some of my iTunes movies/tv shows to it and take it with me on business trips for watching in the hotel, many of which have horrible internet service..

Can't you do this with an iPad, iPod Touch or iPhone? Load the content you want to watch on the road? all you need is a simple lighting to HDMI cable.
 
Yes, I will have many occasions when I would be able to use offline storage. I would love to be able to sync some of my iTunes movies/tv shows to it and take it with me on business trips for watching in the hotel, many of which have horrible internet service. Also do deer camp where we have a TV but no internet, so I currently bring a Blu-Ray player and a bunch of discs every year.
Why not simply sync the movies to an iPhone or iPad and connect that to the TV using the HDMI adapter? I do that all the time in hotels. The Apple TV is not designed to be used offline (I doubt the new one will even work, given the reliance on on-demand bundles etc.).
 
What time Monday does the pre-order start? Anyone thinks there will be a shortage?

No news as of yet. I doubt there will be a shortage. Outside of people on forums and tech blogs, no one I personally know even knows a new ATV is being released....let alone when or about preorders. I also would be shocked if it was a midnight preorder. Something late morning or early afternoon seems more likely.

Apple has not officially said anything.
 
No news as of yet. I doubt there will be a shortage. Outside of people on forums and tech blogs, no one I personally know even knows a new ATV is being released....let alone when or about preorders. I also would be shocked if it was a midnight preorder. Something late morning or early afternoon seems more likely.

Apple has not officially said anything.
Same I don't think ATV gets quote as many hits as iPhones/iPads
 
Am I crazy for thinking about getting one of these just for the 802.11ac capability? I mostly use my current apple tv for netflix and airplay but I don't have it wired with ethernet and sometimes it gets stuck on a really low connection speed (I've seen it as low as 1mbps connection speed with excellent signal in the airport app) and I have to hard power it down to get it to reconnect at 65mbps.
 
The truth of the matter is, we just don't know. We don't know yet the range of apps there will be, what they will do, and how many of them we will want to download. I'd like to spend $50 less, but a gnawing feeling in my gut says go for the 64GB, and don't worry about any "questions". If it's too much, I'll get less the next upgrade. My iPhone 6s is 64GB, my new iPad Mini is going to be 64GB, so my AppleTV might as well be too. That way I'll be ready for any surprises app developers might throw my way down the road.
 
Can't you do this with an iPad, iPod Touch or iPhone? Load the content you want to watch on the road? all you need is a simple lighting to HDMI cable.

Yes I mentioned that I could do this, and I currently do from time to time with my 3rd gen iPad. But like I said controlling the videos is a pain. If you need to pause, fast forward or rewind it means getting up and walking across the room to get the iPad and do so. Not to mention getting the HDMI handshake to work properly can be a chore.

As far as the AppleTV not being a portable device, that is true, but it sure seems like a lot of people use them like I'm talking about already. They jus have to rely on crappy hotel wifi. I mean wasn't there just an article about getting the AppleTV to work with wifi networks that require a login screen such as hotels. Haven't there been people asking for directv wifi or Bluetooth connections between the AppleTV and their iPhone/iPad so they can use AirPlay directly.
 
Yes I mentioned that I could do this, and I currently do from time to time with my 3rd gen iPad. But like I said controlling the videos is a pain. If you need to pause, fast forward or rewind it means getting up and walking across the room to get the iPad and do so. Not to mention getting the HDMI handshake to work properly can be a chore.

As far as the AppleTV not being a portable device, that is true, but it sure seems like a lot of people use them like I'm talking about already. They jus have to rely on crappy hotel wifi. I mean wasn't there just an article about getting the AppleTV to work with wifi networks that require a login screen such as hotels. Haven't there been people asking for directv wifi or Bluetooth connections between the AppleTV and their iPhone/iPad so they can use AirPlay directly.

The current Apple TV can use Bluetooth to AirPlay without wifi
 
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