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Still Missing Safari browsing and iOS apps

The Apple TV misses key things like browsing to a video online and a port to plugin a Flash drive. iOS compatibility would make this a great device. I'm sticking with GoogleTV till then.
 
I don't suppose putting it in that mode would allow an AppleTV 3 to accept an ipsw that can be jailbroken?
The AppleTV would have to be already running a jailbreakable version of iOS. So no, you wouldn't be able to deliver a jailbreakable ipsw to the AppleTV with it.

Instead you would use the miniUSB socket to break the iOS version on it. If it is running the most current previous version or if you have already upgraded to today's 6.0 software, then no.
 
Without jailbreaking possibilities, you still have to rely on iTunes to watch anything on AppleTV. I use VideoDrive to put all my videos in iTunes, and that goes really well, but I still wish I didn’t have to. iTunes is too messy, slow and overloaded. But accessing videos from iOS or AppleTV works as advertised, so I guess it’s fine.
 
Just wish that there was a quick alpha list like on iOS to quickly jump to a particular letter of the alphabet when searching. I have a very large music collection and it is a pain when there are thousands of artists to scroll through to find the right one especially when it is further down in the alphabet.

Just use the scroll wheel.
 
Other then it wasn't possible before? Either the music or movie would have to be stored locally on your iPhone and then AirPlayed or the AppleTV would have to be signed into your iCloud account.

If you are visiting someone, you wouldn't be signed in to iCloud on their Apple TV.

Yes, but you could stream a movie from your iPhone to a friend's AppleTV via airplay. I realized that this was a new way of doing the same thing (playing a movie you own on an AppleTV that someone else owns). I was asking about the advantage of this new method over the old. Some other kind folks gave a helpful answer, which is great because yours was worthless.
 
I had the same problem when updating my Apple TV, it failed during the update and just had the fast flashing light. I went and connected to iTunes and let it do the recovery of the software and update. Getting ready to reconnect it now and see how that goes. And no, I wasn't running any jailbreak versions.
 
Yep.
You can send purchased movies to any ATV even if they are not stored on your iPhone/iPad. In iOS7, the video app can show all purchased content, whether on the device or not (option "show all videos" in the settings). If you tap a movie not on the device, it starts streaming from the cloud. If you now activate Airplay, the ATV will take over the streaming (without the device being further involved).

Awesome. Thanks!
 
On your iOS device running iOS 7, just go into the Video app. Assuming you have purchased content from iTunes, your collection will be displayed via iCloud. Just select a movie and hit play for automatic streaming without downloading. Then once your movie or TV show (or music video) starts playback, tap the Airplay button. You'll even see Apple TV going through the proper authorization screen before playing the content.

This is going to be ultra convenient when going over to a friend or family member's house. No need to log in to their Apple TV with your credentials anymore. Just play and Airplay! :D

And you don't have to have your iphone connected to there wifi ?
 
It is going to require much more storage though. I just don't see how they can do it without raising the price of the aTV to around $200.

No it wouldn't. You're thinking it's too much like iDevices. :apple:TV is different in that it's big storage is outside of it's box. It's not a mobile device so it doesn't need much on-board storage. It runs one thing at a time and if that was a app, it would only need enough onboard storage to run that ONE app. If you had 100 game apps on it, the other 99 could be stored on the hard drive within the Mac from which the :apple:TV gets anything it's going to display (movies, music, etc). Just as all of our movies, music, etc don't have to fit into the on-board storage, neither would up to a huge library of apps have to all fit. Just one at a time streamed over as you want to play that app.

Change games (app)? No problem. It would work just like choosing to watch a different movie. It kicks the movie (app) you were watching (playing) out of memory and streams over the new movie (app) you want to watch (play).

The point: this little box could run 100 or 500 apps just like an iPhone or iPad. The difference is that the bulk of it's inactive app storage is on the outside (on a hard drive somewhere else in the house). It would be like having the 32GB or 64GB of iPad storage on the outside of the iPad. It wouldn't work if the iPad went away from that storage. But the :apple:TV doesn't leave the house. It's always connected to storage much greater than we can get in any other iOS device. There's plenty of room for apps just as there's plenty of room for movies, music, tv shows, podcasts, etc. If there was anything to covet as "bigger" on the inside, we should be thinking bigger RAM and faster processors.

Extending this a little further: since the :apple:TV is married to a much more powerful computer running somewhere else in the house, it seems likely the app could leverage the horses within that computer and just stream over the video to display on the screen. This would be like some of those services where you can virtually run Flash on a computer somewhere and stream Flash to an iOS screen (so you can see Flash apps on a device that doesn't run Flash). It would also be like running Windows or OS X on a computer and streaming the screen to a touch iOS device. Let the computer do a lot of the work of processing the game graphics, polygons, etc and then stream over a 1920 x 1080 video of what the gamer should see on the screen at that moment. For the :apple:TV, it wouldn't be much different than playing a HD movie... except that it would also be sending back game controller action data (like moving a joystick, pushing a button, tipping a iOS gyro, etc).
 
I have this thing called a local network. It is my own PRIVATE cloud that contains a NAS full of video files that cannot be played within Apple TV because it isn't cataloged inside iTunes. My private cloud will forever be better than any other cloud service. More bandwidth, faster access, and practically unlimited space.

Plex?
 
No it wouldn't. You're thinking it's too much like iDevices. :apple:TV is different in that it's big storage is outside of it's box. It's not a mobile device so it doesn't need much on-board storage. It runs one thing at a time and if that was a app, it would only need enough onboard storage to run that ONE app. If you had 100 game apps on it, the other 99 could be stored on the hard drive within the Mac from which the :apple:TV gets anything it's going to display (movies, music, etc). Just as all of our movies, music, etc don't have to fit into the on-board storage, neither would up to a huge library of apps have to all fit. Just one at a time streamed over as you want to play that app.

Simply not true unless you only play tic tac toe games. No way they would require it to be linked to a desktop. And the types of games people are going to want to run will be 500mb or even over a GB. No way the Apple TV could download these at runtime. Unless they add support for streaming games from an iOS device, I don't see anyway the aTV could support games natively with the current storage setup.
 
My Apple TV was working fine and when I updated it crashed. Now the light is rapidly blinking and the USB to iTunes is displayed on the screen :mad:

Any ideas on how to fix? I already unplugged and plugged it back in.


Press and hold Menu and Play/Pause until the white light on the Apple TV blinks even faster. It should force a restart and then it will boot fine from there.
 
AAArgh!

When are they gonna let it run iOS games and apps??????????

I'm sure it's possible. ATV3 has 8GB of storage and an A5. This is comparable to a lot of iPhones out there.

But it seems unlikely Apple would do that with existing hardware anyway. If that update ever comes with those features, I'm sure it will be limited to a more powerful ATV just so they can sell new ATVs to everyone.

Simply not true unless you only play tic tac toe games. No way they would require it to be linked to a desktop. And the types of games people are going to want to run will be 500mb or even over a GB. No way the Apple TV could download these at runtime. Unless they add support for streaming games from an iOS device, I don't see anyway the aTV could support games natively with the current storage setup.

8GB of flash isn't much, but you wouldn't be limited to Tic Tac Toe games. I agree they would never require it to be linked to a desktop to store apps.
 
I read a lot of people who said the same but I don't understand why adding AirPlay implies they would add an app to Apple TV. The two really have nothing to do with each other since AirPlay wouldn't use the app. I'm guessing Apple isn't going to let Amazon add such an app and that is why they added AirPlay.

Of course the two apps (Apple TV/iOS) aren't technically related or dependent. For that matter, there's been no technical reason Amazon Prime shouldn't have been on the Apple TV since day one, right alongside Netflix.

What I, and I believe others, are saying is that whatever hurdle (politics, economics, spite, ambition, strategy) was keeping AirPlay out of the Amazon iOS app is probably the same hurdle that's been keeping it off the Apple TV. Therefore, now that AirPlay IS in the iOS app, said hurdle may have been overcome, and it stands to reason we might see it finally show up on the Apple TV too.

Actually, if I had to guess, I'd say its Amazon holding back, not Apple blocking, that's been the problem. Amazon doesn't want to wrap access to their vast media library inside an Apple shell. I think in the long run Amazon would rather control the living room -- software, hardware, and content -- end-to-end, like Apple already does.
 
Oh good, the update crashed the device. Restoring via iTunes now. Bummer!

Update: restore worked fine, but when iTunes downloaded the firmware to do the restore, it didn't pull down the new update... So it's back to square 1, lol...
 
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Buggy subtitles

The new subtitle-settings is buggy. I've bought a few movies on iTunes and they subtitle size looks good on a few but too large on others. I guess it's something with the movie resolution that affects this(?).
Watching with large subtitles on "Die hard" looks ok, but it looks just stupid on "The Karate Kid", where the large subtitles gets even larger.
Anyone else noticed this?
 
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