There have been plenty of unusual occurrences and performances at the Oscars in the past. There was a streaker at the 1974 show. I wouldn't gauge the "prestige" of the award on the Will Smith/Chris Rock incident or on any of the other unusual things that have occurred over time.
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Apple TV+ Film 'CODA' Wins Best Picture at 2022 Oscars
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There have been plenty of unusual occurrences and performances at the Oscars in the past. There was a streaker at the 1974 show. I wouldn't gauge the "prestige" of the award on the Will Smith/Chris Rock incident or on any of the other unusual things that have occurred over time.
A lot of people on MacRumors have been complaining that tv+ doesn't have anything going for it, invariably are the ones who got a free year and didn't bother watching – or worse didn't even subscribe and are just the typical Apple bashers here. In two years Apple has built a service based on quality and in those two years has won Emmy's and now an Academy Award for Best Picture that Netflix has been chasing for over a decade. I'll take quality over quantity any day.
What I said in a thread "Why is Apple TV+ not popular?" rings ever more true the longer Apple rolls out their tv+ strategy:
What I said in a thread "Why is Apple TV+ not popular?" rings ever more true the longer Apple rolls out their tv+ strategy:
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Actually, I wouldn't. A couple of good shows doesn't make entire platform. It makes for a 1 month subscription.
Other film owners might now seek Apple out to sell their films to, if they think it could be a path to a wide release (more royalties) and awards.
It’s US only distribution. In Europe it’s not on Apple TV+, you have to rent it or find it elsewhere.
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Forrest Gump. Lord of the Rings: Return of the King. The Godfather. The Sound of Music. Gone With the Wind. Ben Hur. TITANIC.
Just a few blockbusters to win best picture…
Dune was nominated, and likely even had a good shot. It may have been the better fit for the Best Adapted Screenplay it also got a nod for though given the difficulty of its source.
Sure because Pachinko, Tehran, The Afterparty, Suspicion, Defending Jacob, The Morning Show, Invasion, Foundation, For All Mankind, Trying, Ted Lasso, etc are not worth watching. Sure.
That is not correct. Apple TV+ had worldwide rights and it is available on Apple TV+ in many countries outside the US, but it appears those rights didn't apply to several specific countries as they had already sold the rights in those countries before making the big sale to Apple. I guess Apple got everywhere else that hadn't yet been sold.
Dune was not expected to win. It was not a frontrunner.
But then again, Coda wasn't expected to win either.
er, that’s what happens at Sundance. Most movies are shown there to GET distribution rights. You’re complaining about exactly what Sundance is meant to be all about - Indie movies attracting distribution rights.
Apple paid $25m for those rights (which apparently where not global rights either because CODA had been made with some rights already purchased), then reportedly spent another $10m in their Oscar campaign.
What happened here was bog standard 100% Hollywood. It’s noteworthy simply due to Apple having an otherwise limited Catalog and exclusive Streaming rights to an Oscar winning film.
no idea why this comment is being upvoted when I never mentioned another film, the BBC or Netflix.
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ITT: A lot of people that know absolutely nothing about film production and financing ?
But that’s the thing - Best Picture voting, specifically, is weird. It isn’t a popular vote, it’s weighted oddly and members rank each nominee 1st thru least favorite. If no movie crests 50% of the 1st choice, they move to 2nd choice of best pic, and if that fails to reach a greater than 50% consensus, their 3rd favorites… and so on… so CODA *potentially* was nobodies favorite film of the year.
And Gladiator. And Chicago. And Forrest Gump.
To be fair, though, there are no films since Return of the King (almost 20 years ago) that fall into that category. But whether that is just coincidence or a reflection of voting agendas I can't say.
No. I’m not.
I’m complaining about morons making this an Apple Oscar win rather than the talent that made and completed the project.
You’re the one who made this claim regarding Sundance - don’t blame me because your claim was categorically wrong. I simply corrected it.
To be fair, it's been almost 20 years since a blockbuster won the big prize (Return of the King, 2004 ceremony).
As a deaf person I was just so happy to see this movie win. Watched it a few hours before the Oscars and it left me in tears.
I watch the Oscars every year, I make an attempt to see as many nominated films as I can, not just the Best Picture but others in other categories. I love the Oscars, have for a long time. It's where movies overlap with sports, in a way.
The pandemic really threw me for a loop in this regard. I really saw nothing in 2020. I could have, but I love the theater-going experience for new movies more than I love watching new releases in my living room. But I have been able to overcome that somewhat this year: I saw quite a few from my couch. But I'm also getting to the theater more as well, which is one of those areas where it feels a little like a return to normalcy.
What I found interesting about this year is that I found none of the films that really jumped out at me with a "WOW!" It's not always the winners, or even ones considered front-runners, but usually I go into the telecast with a strong sense of "This is the best movie I saw this year!", which I think adds an element to watching them.
But this year I saw nine of the ten Best Picture nominations, and I enjoyed most all of them, I found them moving and well crafted, etc...but none of them jumped out at me and yelled "This is the best picture of 2020!" CODA was a lovely film. So was The Power of the Dog. So was Dune...etc. So any of them could have won and I wouldn't have felt like it was a snub. I might have voted for The French Dispatch over any of them, I'm one of those Wes Anderson nuts.
(The French Dispatch is a great example of a film that just falls flat streaming. There isn't much actual French spoken, really, but where it is the translation subtitles are in fairly small text. They show up fine on the big screen, but are tough to read at home. I liked it a lot more in the theater than I did when I streamed it. Many make the argument that big blockbuster movies should be seen on the big screen. I disagree. They are loud and unsubtle and can be just fine at home. It's the quiet films I want to watch in a darkened theater without distraction.)
(The movie I really wanted to love was Don't Look Up. Really wanted to LOVE it. I liked it.)
Anyway, congratulations to CODA, and to Troy Kotsur and Sian Heder!
The pandemic really threw me for a loop in this regard. I really saw nothing in 2020. I could have, but I love the theater-going experience for new movies more than I love watching new releases in my living room. But I have been able to overcome that somewhat this year: I saw quite a few from my couch. But I'm also getting to the theater more as well, which is one of those areas where it feels a little like a return to normalcy.
What I found interesting about this year is that I found none of the films that really jumped out at me with a "WOW!" It's not always the winners, or even ones considered front-runners, but usually I go into the telecast with a strong sense of "This is the best movie I saw this year!", which I think adds an element to watching them.
But this year I saw nine of the ten Best Picture nominations, and I enjoyed most all of them, I found them moving and well crafted, etc...but none of them jumped out at me and yelled "This is the best picture of 2020!" CODA was a lovely film. So was The Power of the Dog. So was Dune...etc. So any of them could have won and I wouldn't have felt like it was a snub. I might have voted for The French Dispatch over any of them, I'm one of those Wes Anderson nuts.
(The French Dispatch is a great example of a film that just falls flat streaming. There isn't much actual French spoken, really, but where it is the translation subtitles are in fairly small text. They show up fine on the big screen, but are tough to read at home. I liked it a lot more in the theater than I did when I streamed it. Many make the argument that big blockbuster movies should be seen on the big screen. I disagree. They are loud and unsubtle and can be just fine at home. It's the quiet films I want to watch in a darkened theater without distraction.)
(The movie I really wanted to love was Don't Look Up. Really wanted to LOVE it. I liked it.)
Anyway, congratulations to CODA, and to Troy Kotsur and Sian Heder!
The ceremony was a snoozefest saved by Will Smith's now infamous slap and Jessica Chastain's amazing speech. Good for CODA! This is much-needed representation in the industry.
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You should realize that all the movie distributers look for movies to buy at Sundance (Hulu's 12m for Summer of Soul won this year them best documentary), it's a giant part of the festival. A movie is premiered, buzz is generated and studios buy.
I should clarify, I think there is a difference between “whatever” - which I’m using in context of junk nobody wants to watch, only so a service can say “We have over 1000 titles available!” and variety, which you are saying (and I agree with) is having different types of shows for different tastes. Absolutely Apple needs to continue offering different types of shows. I think they have struck a decent balance so far. The focus on prestige tv means their catalog is expanding slower, but I feel like the shows so far are mostly pretty good.
I just watched Power of the Dog the other day. Thought it was a very good movie. I haven't seen all the movies that were nominated but liked this movie. Especially the end, since you had to figure out exactly what happened yourself and go back and look at the clues. Highly recommend.
it is normal practice for smaller scale film productions to tour the festival circuit, hoping to be noticed by distributors. Distributors still take a financial gamble.