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Sounds about right. Apple’s pushing hard with Apple TV+ and the AW straps are simply spring lineup.

The only odd listing is the iPod Touch. For $399, that had better not be an iPod Touch.

I imagine it might be an iPhone XR repackaged as a 'Touch. If Apple Arcade actually had some Switch level games it might be worth it.
 
Sounds about right. Apple’s pushing hard with Apple TV+ and the AW straps are simply spring lineup.

The only odd listing is the iPod Touch. For $399, that had better not be an iPod Touch.

I am willing to bet that the iPod touch is actually the rumoured budget iPhone.

people have been complaining about the remote since it was released. Some people gripe about it, and others just replace it with a universal remote.
Sure SOME people are fine with it, but the Apple remote has ALWAYS been something most people have complained about.

And who are these “most”?

One should take care not to confuse the vocal minority here as somehow being representative of the general sentiment of Apple users in general.
 
That's not what it says.
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Not what it says.

It’s exactly what it says and is linked to an article with a picture that shows exactly what the article says.

Whether or not they are in ear or over might be the question. Though it would seem odd to call over ear headphones the same name as their in ear ones but hey it’s Apple.
 
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So, it sounds like you're agreeing the ATV remote is garbage due to the fact that "smart people" go buy a decent 3rd party remote. I like to think I'm pretty smart, and it makes sense to me that if a remote is so poorly designed that "smart people" have to go buy something else at further expense, why not just include a remote with the product that fixes many of the criticisms and works like people want it to?

you don’t just buy a universal remote for an Apple TV.
a good universal remote can workwith the Apple TV, the receiver/soundbars, the actual tv display, any lights that are smart, Xboxx, Roku, fire stick, blue ray player etc.
It is smart to get a good universal remote if you are the type of person that is going to over pay for a media streamer just because it is made by Apple.
 
people have been complaining about the remote since it was released. Some people gripe about it, and others just replace it with a universal remote.
Sure SOME people are fine with it, but the Apple remote has ALWAYS been something most people have complained about.
Well, personally I think the remote is brilliant, mainly because you can use it without looking (which is particularly convenient when I watch on my projector in the dark) and nothing beats the touchpad for quickly seeking through a movie. Far better than the old-fashioned remotes with dozens of buttons. And who says we're not the majority and you the minority? :p
 
Each to their own.
I find it perfect and the design is sublime!
I find the control layout to be great (everything I need, nothing I don’t, everything within easy reach, I can put my finger directly on any necessary button without looking and without having to reach over dozens of currently-unused buttons like on many universal remotes, the buttons have a great feel, and the trackpad is very responsive).

I find the chassis to look pretty (it could be said to be elegant), but my hand doesn’t look at it, it holds it, and to me the chassis is an ergonomic disaster - it’s so thin that it’s difficult to pick up off a table quickly. It takes effort and looking, and those are qualities a TV remote should not require. When you do pick it up, it’s fairly slippery, and there are few non-visual cues to the proper orientation in which to hold it - again, requiring looking, an undesirable quality in a remote - and it’s easy to accidentally press buttons or the touchpad in the process - also undesirable.

(i think the chassis shows heavy influence from Jony Ive’s “everything must be inordinately thin, form over function” school of thought, and I’m glad to be seeing that ending - the needle had swung too far one way, and when Jony got complete control, it swung too far in the other direction - now it seems to be getting back closer to the middle. I want a remote designed for the coffee table, not designed solely to be in a design museum.)

I have mostly solved these failings on my ATV4K remote (and the on for the ATV4 before it) by putting it in a Griffin SurvivorPlay case (sadly long since discontinued and superior in fit and feel to the large collection of cheap silicone cases on Amazon) - this this gives it, subtly, a more rounded almost ”dog-bone” shape, and lifts it a little higher off whatever surface, presenting the edges, making it easier to grasp without looking. I’ve also put on Apple’s “Remote Loop” wrist band - I never use it as a wrist loop, it merely gives the remote a “tail”, making orientation of the remote more obvious without looking. It also occasionally signals its presence if it, say, gets partly hidden under a pillow on the couch.

So, I’d like to see Apple offer a new remote with the same control layout (they can add a mute button if that would make enough people happier, I don’t personally care), but in a slightly more ergonomic case - make it a little more grippable, and easier to pick up, and easier to tell which end is the front/top without looking, that’s all I’m asking.

(As to the list of other bits you suggest, I’d be happy to see most of them, but I don’t know what Apple is willing to do at this point - they don’t seem too interested in supporting new standards “just because”, they want there to be a significant established market for them. I’m not sure if HDMI 2.1 and WiFi6 yet qualify in their eyes - I would hope that Dolby Digital+ does. We can agree on a faster CPU though - faster is nearly always better.)
 
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What makes you so certain?
Nothing apple has done has illustrated any interest in going there, and nothing any competitor has done in that arena has been anything other than a complete failure. There’s just no demand for it, Neil Young not withstanding.
 
I worked at Microcenter years upon years ago when Steve Jobs was still alive and Katie Cotton was his henchman. An updated Macbook appeared in inventory (around 2009) and someone took a screenshot and it was featured here.

The punishment was Microcenter did not have iPads when they launched months later. I think it was the only retail channel that didn't. I wonder if Target will get couple phone calls over this...
That employee better hope they don’t get caught because that’s instant termination.
 
I would probably upgrade the Apple TV 4K if it seems like the remote is better and it has WiFi 6, which I plan to upgrade to this summer. My Apple TV 4K doesn't have a consistent connection speed sometimes where it is currently located. But what will they call this thing? The New Apple TV 4K?

I kind of like the on screen mouse pointer of my LG C9 but I don't use the connected features of my TV because I don't want to be tracked. I wouldn't mind the new Apple TV remote offering this sort of remote functionality. Also is there some sort of wireless surround sound standard? Would be neat if something like that was baked into the Apple TV and I could just set up speakers around my room. I just have 3.1 right now because it would be tricky to get the satellites set up. My living room is kinda weird and is one of the only things I don't like about my house. I just keep hoping technology will solve the problem.
 
Hmm! Could it be... an iPod Touch with cellular, a new top of the line to revive the Touch.

Called - iPod Touch Pro
iPod Touch Phone
or
... your guess.

This could make sense, instead of being called the " cheap phone ".
 
USB type C is almost as wide as some Apple devices. You would not have any room for the electronics. If anything, Apple wants to go to a new port that is thinner than Lightning.
that wouldn't make sense. if they went to a new port, they would have introduced it in the new iPad Pros. what does a new port solve in the iPod Touch and the Apple TV remote? nothing. what does USB-C solve? the move away from lightning so that you have one cable to connect every Apple device.

if the port is just as thick as the devices, the port would be slanted where the bottom half edge is eliminated (look at the older iPod Touch with 30 pin connectors). otherwise, they would go QI charging.

i'm certain Apple will not be creating a brand new port. at most, they'll create a brand new wireless charging method (maybe improve the smart connector for fast contact charging and fast data transfer).
 
that wouldn't make sense. if they went to a new port, they would have introduced it in the new iPad Pros. what does a new port solve in the iPod Touch and the Apple TV remote? nothing. what does USB-C solve? the move away from lightning so that you have one cable to connect every Apple device.

if the port is just as thick as the devices, the port would be slanted where the bottom half edge is eliminated (look at the older iPod Touch with 30 pin connectors). otherwise, they would go QI charging.

i'm certain Apple will not be creating a brand new port. at most, they'll create a brand new wireless charging method.
Yeah I think it’s most likely that they remove the port. Maybe stick the three pin magnetic port on the back like iPad pros. But mostly rely on wireless for everything. But it seemed like Europe doesn’t want to allow wireless with no port either?
 
Well, personally I think the remote is brilliant, mainly because you can use it without looking (which is particularly convenient when I watch on my projector in the dark) and nothing beats the touchpad for quickly seeking through a movie. Far better than the old-fashioned remotes with dozens of buttons. And who says we're not the majority and you the minority? :p
That's been my experience as well. The Apple TV remote is amazing for quickly scrubbing through content, compared to the d-pad layout on traditional remote controls which feels slower and more cumbersome.

I also like the slim form factor, because I have two 3rd-gen Apple TVs set up in my classrooms, and the remote fits nicely into my tech accessory pouch.
 
That's been my experience as well. The Apple TV remote is amazing for quickly scrubbing through content, compared to the d-pad layout on traditional remote controls which feels slower and more cumbersome.

I also like the slim form factor, because I have two 3rd-gen Apple TVs set up in my classrooms, and the remote fits nicely into my tech accessory pouch.

Are you sure that's been your experience? The siri remote (with the touchpad) that came with the 4th gen and 4K apple tvs is NOT the same as the one that came with the 3rd gen and earlier.
 
Nothing apple has done has illustrated any interest in going there, and nothing any competitor has done in that arena has been anything other than a complete failure. There’s just no demand for it, Neil Young not withstanding.
Apple tends to not illustrate future product features, that’s why sites like this exist. I can’t think of any other reason why anyone would spend $399 on an iPod touch. I’m sure I’m wrong, but it’s just a thought or idea.
 
Are you sure that's been your experience? The siri remote (with the touchpad) that came with the 4th gen and 4K apple tvs is NOT the same as the one that came with the 3rd gen and earlier.
Sorry, to make it clear - I have both (2 3rd gen Apple TVs, which I am using in school now for the airplay capabilities), one 4th gen (the A8 version for my bedroom) and one 5th gen (the A10x for my living room) one.

I have the old remote which I use mainly to wake my 3rd gen Apple TV out of sleep when I want to use it in class.

I like the new tv remote for its touchpad and its portability (look at it, it's a fraction of the length and thickness of a conventional remote!). If the apple tv does get refreshed next month, I plan to replace my existing 4th gen Apple TV with it (since the specs are starting to feel slow for running games; ocean horn noticeably lags and has even crashed on more than one occasion), and then bring that Apple TV to my workplace (will probably find a use for it).
 
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Oooh, you mean an iPod touch because of Touch ID? That is actually brilliant!

iPhone Touch™
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Don't take this too seriously. I'm also a target employee, and there's a lot of random things listed in the inventory system. At one point they had like a dozen different AirPods SKUs listed, and even had Airpower at $99 lol

Probably for all the different colours they never released. Or... AirPods Cellular 🤯
 
Well if we do get a new Apple tv that’d be great timing as I was thinking of getting another tv in April and moving my old one to a bedroom and buy a second Apple TV for it. I suspect the iPod reference is really the new iPhone.
 
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