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well thats strange it says am subscribed and ive not signed up for it and its not appearing in manage subscriptions lol
I guess, you "subscribed" to "The Morning Show" to get notifications, e.g. when next episode etc. is available, if you add it to your "Watch Next" list.
 
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I haven’t bought an Apple product since the Xs Max and I got a free year. Strange but I’ll take it.
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Awful interface, just like Apple News+

i hate how their shows are just thrown into the mix of everything else. It should have its own separate navigation point in the TV App. If there is, I am blind I guess.

all I saw was the morning show randomly among stuff I watched on the cw app and other stuff
Apple News has the best interface of any news apps. What are you talking about? It’s not confusing at all.
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Watched the first Mankind episode and it was just ok. Watched the second ep, and the feminism is strong with this one. For those that enjoy clumsy propaganda as entertainment, I'm sure you'll love it.

Trying SEE next.
Just because there is Feminism doesn’t mean it’s a bad show. Live in the now! This isn’t the 60s.
 
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It’s called TV+, not Movie+. Not sure why you expected otherwise!

Well first of all the iTunes store had movies as well despite being named iTunes. And I was just expecting more content then just a dozen of series based on the pricing and the competition.

And comparatively Apple News+ has more than just Apples own original couple of articles a day. Imagine Apple Music having only Beats Radio in it’s catalogue for $5 while every other service has millions of songs for $10.

So who is gonna switch from Netflix or Amazon Prime just for this?
 
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Wish Apple would stop this woke crap and sort out their creatives hardware. I waited until end of October for the 16" MB Pro (that I understand, Apple have not even acknowledged exists) and had a buyer for my 2019 i9 MB Pro, but being it's not happened, am stuck with a machine that throttles and whose keyboard and keyboard layout is a disaster. I do not care a bit about content, that is what Netflix and Amazon are for, Apple should fire TC who is only interested in shipping left over components from last year and dubious social issues (sorry, has to be said), and is NOT a product guy. Only one useful innovation under his watch, the AirPods.
Meanwhile, us power user creatives are attracted by all manner of fast innovative 2 in 1 Windows laptops with Wacom or similar pens. Yup, Windows sucks and MacOS is better, but once you're running the apps, it's all the same, for less money and more creative friendly ergonomics.
Check out a fully loaded Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Yoga Gen 4, I have the Gen 3 i5, not powerful enough for 4K editing and such, but the more powerful configs of the Gen 4 (or Dell or HP equivalent), are not bad. And you get a decent keyboard to go with the pen operated touch screen. No need to compromise on OS with an iPad Pro.
So was hoping Apple would make a MacOS iPad Pro or convertible MacBook Pro.
You only think the keyboard sucks because other people say that. It’s a mind over matter thing. The keyboard is amazing. Also, it doesn’t throttle itself if you know the setting to turn that off. Google it. It’s easy!
 
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Well first of all the iTunes store had movies as well despite being named iTunes. And I was just expecting more content then just a dozen of series based on the pricing and the competition.

And comparatively Apple News+ has more than just Apples own original couple of articles a day. Imagine Apple Music having only Beats Radio in it’s catalogue for $5 while every other service has millions of songs for $10.

So who is gonna switch from Netflix or Amazon Prime just for this?
I let Netflix and Prime go so I could get this and Disney + in 11 days. I’ve been doing the Fubo Tv trick for two years to get free live tv.
 
A few positives:

-You can watch some episodes for free prior to signing up
-Even though they are weekly releases the first few episodes are already availabe

While I generally side with critics, it will be nice to see user reviews.
 
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You only think the keyboard sucks because other people say that. It’s a mind over matter thing. The keyboard is amazing. Also, it doesn’t throttle itself if you know the setting to turn that off. Google it. It’s easy!
NO, the keyboard is not amazing, and with respect, I am both a UX and product designer, and here are the issues that anyone familiar with the human body will confirm:

1. The short travel imposes much stress on the finger bones - even the Magic Keyboard I am typing this on, hurts, and the keys travel twice as far, but only 1/2 my Lenovo ThinkPad, whose keyboard is excellent.
2. The non inverted T arrow key cluster makes touch typing/navigating text, difficult, just Google this. Prev MacBook Air was last MacBook to feature an inverted T arrow cluster. Dell and Lenovo have not retained it for nothing.
3. The touch Esc key is constantly activated in error by people, just Google it or look on these forums.
4. The touch bar is innovative but extracts muscle memory from the equation. Compare to a Chromebook, each has an IDENTICAl function key strip, very ergonomic mechanical keys.

Apple lost the plot on ergonomics as soon as they put tidy designs ahead of function.
Best ever laptop they made was the previous aforementioned MacBook Air. Tapered body, proper keyboard, amazing battery life etc.
 
Got my year's free TV+ with my iPhone 11 Pro. Which is nice. But I wish they'd made the TV app available for Mojave. The OS is only a year old – think how many older machines Apple is ignoring. Madness.
 
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Looking forward to it... but I'd wish they didn't mix the Apple+ series/movies with the other rent/buy movies...it's confusing as heck...i was hoping to get access to those movies too with the sub, but nooo... so this is not good....put them/leave them in the itunes store and keep the apple+ content alone in the app...my 2 cents
 
Looking forward to it... but I'd wish they didn't mix the Apple+ series/movies with the other rent/buy movies...it's confusing as heck...i was hoping to get access to those movies too with the sub, but nooo... so this is not good....put them/leave them in the itunes store and keep the apple+ content alone in the app...my 2 cents

Nope. The purpose of atv+ is to get you to buy subs of hbo or rent/buy iTunes. It’s the new Apple experience where you’re the product. How you like it?
 
Nope. The purpose of atv+ is to get you to buy subs of hbo or rent/buy iTunes. It’s the new Apple experience where you’re the product. How you like it?

Breaking News!: Apple is a large global corporation who wants consumers to buy its products and services...

Apple isn’t forcing anyone to buy/rent subscriptions. If people are easily marketed to, then good on Apple for capitalizing on that like every other company.
 
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There is something everyone is forgetting: critical response.

These shows are boring. They might be good for extremely bored people, except there are so many better things to do and see if you have a computer or game console or healthy body. Apple's M.O. is like throwing mud at a wall; sooner or later they hope to break through with obvious results.

Televisual entertainment has become true ephemera due to APPLE (among others, but due to the whole tech industry) making streaming and digitalization of media. Simply put--entertainment was once prestigious due to it being an EVENT that you had to schedule for, in order to see and experience. The "event" of entertainment was inherent in the stage plays, the movies, and even TV until the VCR in 1976. Even with the VCR, televisual entertainment events were still best seen as events in theaters or on TV due to having these events as ways to connect to people through shared experiences the next day or week. The events became culturally important tools to give people things to unite over.

Entertainment was about UNITING people. (Docket this)

Nowadays, for the past 15 years, media has been heavy digitized and passed about via computer. In the past 10 years it became very common for the younger and more tech-able people to get most all television and films for free via the internet. Now, in the last 5 years, it has become even easier for all people to get these shows and even fresh movies via the internet (illegally, but without any real fear of legal reprisal for the average pirate-consumer). Entertainment is no longer an EVENT, aside from prestige movies that build a narrative and lure people in (Star Wars, Marvel, etc) (The "1001 Arabian Nights" phenomena of storytelling). Add to that an industry that has blown up and diluted the talent, and a centralized industry that inadequately chooses talent and promotes talent and content, and you have a public that generally finds televisual entertainment to be a waste of time, boring, and disconnected from the useful "event" paradigm of entertainment in pre-digital days.

To prove my point, I point you to television ratings over the years. Look back to the 60s, when the USA had event based television, and the population was only around 220 million; 60 million (yes, 60!) would watch the top shows of the week. In the 90s, when the USA had VCRs to record TV and a population in the upper 200 millions, the top show of the week would gather about 40-45 million people. In early digital days, say 2010, the top shows would get about 25 million. Today, the USA is approximately 330 million people, and the top shows gain about 10 million people, and those shows are few and far between; most days in the week have about 6-8 million for the top shows and the average show on primetime broadcast (the big ratings format) have about 3-4 million. In 2002, fyi, a TV show making under 5 million on the main 3 networks would be immediately chopped from production. HOWEVER, there is one TV genre that still gets huge ratings--the EVENT of live sports (specifically American football, baseball and wrestling in the USA). Sports events, live, get generally 15-20+ million today, a ratings boom.

Apple is joining a field that is overcrowded and evolving into a death spiral. Worse, Apple doesn't understand the nature of the field which they helped transform via their technology. They have a dinosaur-minded approach which has their dreams and ideas living in the past, where moguls and starlets had prestige and pomp. ...it's gone, dudes. That's boomer culture, and that isn't how the world works these days. And the entertainment industry will work less like that in the future. Apple is like the tragic female leads in "Singing In The Rain" or "Sunset Blvd."--caught in a faded star eclipsed by newer technology changing the nature of their business.

Big E(ntertainment) is currently throwing money into a hole, in most cases. They aren't progressing with the lives or whims of the audience. They are also grasping at diminishing audiences due to the different ways in which people are able to be entertained in home or out. Worse, entertainment is now catering to smaller groups of people, and more specific ideologies. Entertainment in TV and movies is now generally a DIVIDER (ding!) that uses direct preaching and divisive language and ideas to upset and unsettle people, generally. Modern entertainment has taken on the mantra of being "open minded" and yet wages war on general unity of the culture and population. The industry is a bully pulpit, and many many people have walked away; there are other ways to be entertained.... Hollywood is becoming irrelevant for most people.

Now add to this dumpster fire the advance of visual technology bringing high-end looking video production to average people for very little money, and you have many vloggers and YouTubers making visual entertainment on level with much modern broadcast entertainment. And look at the ratings of these independent people! They outstrip the stuff on television by millions (but gathered over time instead of instantly on broadcast). Those low-end producers have become EVENTS, because they turn out entertaining ephemera irregularly and are absolutely unique and unhomogenized by a centralized entertainment culture in Hollywood. Apple should have thrown their hats into the ring with small and precious producers making individual and unique entertainment unrestrained by gatekeepers, IMHO. The audiences have shifted to that area and will shift more heavily in the next decade.

Apple needs to make prestige events uniting people. Prestige Events Uniting People. Keep it simple as a core operating philosophy. PEUP. Why prestige? Apple has the money to create the prestige, which the common vloggers and YT guys can't. But they have to make true events, not rehashing the old and worn.

Think about it.

Think different.
 
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the worst streaming service launch Ever lol. Less than 10 titles and nothing else. All the hype about how it’s up against Netflix, amazon prime videos, Hulu, and Disney+. I can’t believe people are defending this streaming service. What a joke. 😂
I actually watched a few different episodes from the shows. Like Dickinson. Or Morning Show, and i feel like i been trolled. Like you are watching and saying what is this nonsense? 😂🤷🏼‍♂️
 
Breaking News!: Apple is a large global corporation who wants consumers to buy its products and services...

Apple isn’t forcing anyone to buy/rent subscriptions. If people are easily marketed to, then good on Apple for capitalizing on that like every other company.

Breaking news. It’s a paid service that you’re subjected to ads in. Go see hbo or Netflix app for examples of services that understand customer experience.

You really don’t get this do you? The app is garbage.
 
Realized my iPhone purchase and gave me the year free - watching - so far working as expected on my Samsung TV
 
Quick question. We use a family account for music/find my etc. Myself and my partner both got new 11 pro last month.
If I activate, then she activated hers, should we in theory get 2 years?
 
Play/pause button with spacebar doesn't work right (in Chrome on a Mac at least).

Only Apple would launch a new streaming service with the play/pause button not working.

Edit: Also can't alter playback quality. It's trying to stream at full quality which my late 2013 13" MacBook Pro cannot handle. It can't handle it on Youtube, Hulu, or Netflix, all of which let me downgrade the quality. This computer is a furnace that just can't do 1080p which Apple TV seems to be trying to do.

And I can't try it in Safari. I get HDCP errors for all streaming services with Safari even though nothing is connected to the Mac, which is why I use Chrome for all streaming.

Edit 2: Restarted computer running no other apps, still unplayable on a Mac with 16 GB RAM. By unplayable I mean it stutters constantly because it's trying to play back in what I assume is 1080p. Have the same issue with other streaming services but can get around it by downgrading the video quality. For me Apple TV Plus is literally unwatchable.

What version of Safari are you using? If it's not 13.0.2 you probably out of luck and your only option is to watch it in TV app which requires Catalina, I run Catalina and it's better than Mojave for me.
 
There is something everyone is forgetting: critical response.

These shows are boring. They might be good for extremely bored people, except there are so many better things to do and see if you have a computer or game console or healthy body. Apple's M.O. is like throwing mud at a wall; sooner or later they hope to break through with obvious results.

Televisual entertainment has become true ephemera due to APPLE (among others, but due to the whole tech industry) making streaming and digitalization of media. Simply put--entertainment was once prestigious due to it being an EVENT that you had to schedule for, in order to see and experience. The "event" of entertainment was inherent in the stage plays, the movies, and even TV until the VCR in 1976. Even with the VCR, televisual entertainment events were still best seen as events in theaters or on TV due to having these events as ways to connect to people through shared experiences the next day or week. The events became culturally important tools to give people things to unite over.

Entertainment was about UNITING people. (Docket this)

Nowadays, for the past 15 years, media has been heavy digitized and passed about via computer. In the past 10 years it became very common for the younger and more tech-able people to get most all television and films for free via the internet. Now, in the last 5 years, it has become even easier for all people to get these shows and even fresh movies via the internet (illegally, but without any real fear of legal reprisal for the average pirate-consumer). Entertainment is no longer an EVENT, aside from prestige movies that build a narrative and lure people in (Star Wars, Marvel, etc) (The "1001 Arabian Nights" phenomena of storytelling). Add to that an industry that has blown up and diluted the talent, and a centralized industry that inadequately chooses talent and promotes talent and content, and you have a public that generally finds televisual entertainment to be a waste of time, boring, and disconnected from the useful "event" paradigm of entertainment in pre-digital days.

To prove my point, I point you to television ratings over the years. Look back to the 60s, when the USA had event based television, and the population was only around 220 million; 60 million (yes, 60!) would watch the top shows of the week. In the 90s, when the USA had VCRs to record TV and a population in the upper 200 millions, the top show of the week would gather about 40-45 million people. In early digital days, say 2010, the top shows would get about 25 million. Today, the USA is approximately 330 million people, and the top shows gain about 10 million people, and those shows are few and far between; most days in the week have about 6-8 million for the top shows and the average show on primetime broadcast (the big ratings format) have about 3-4 million. In 2002, fyi, a TV show making under 5 million on the main 3 networks would be immediately chopped from production. HOWEVER, there is one TV genre that still gets huge ratings--the EVENT of live sports (specifically American football, baseball and wrestling in the USA). Sports events, live, get generally 15-20+ million today, a ratings boom.

Apple is joining a field that is overcrowded and evolving into a death spiral. Worse, Apple doesn't understand the nature of the field which they helped transform via their technology. They have a dinosaur-minded approach which has their dreams and ideas living in the past, where moguls and starlets had prestige and pomp. ...it's gone, dudes. That's boomer culture, and that isn't how the world works these days. And the entertainment industry will work less like that in the future. Apple is like the tragic female leads in "Singing In The Rain" or "Sunset Blvd."--caught in a faded star eclipsed by newer technology changing the nature of their business.

Big E(ntertainment) is currently throwing money into a hole, in most cases. They aren't progressing with the lives or whims of the audience. They are also grasping at diminishing audiences due to the different ways in which people are able to be entertained in home or out. Worse, entertainment is now catering to smaller groups of people, and more specific ideologies. Entertainment in TV and movies is now generally a DIVIDER (ding!) that uses direct preaching and divisive language and ideas to upset and unsettle people, generally. Modern entertainment has taken on the mantra of being "open minded" and yet wages war on general unity of the culture and population. The industry is a bully pulpit, and many many people have walked away; there are other ways to be entertained.... Hollywood is becoming irrelevant for most people.

Now add to this dumpster fire the advance of visual technology bringing high-end looking video production to average people for very little money, and you have many vloggers and YouTubers making visual entertainment on level with much modern broadcast entertainment. And look at the ratings of these independent people! They outstrip the stuff on television by millions (but gathered over time instead of instantly on broadcast). Those low-end producers have become EVENTS, because they turn out entertaining ephemera irregularly and are absolutely unique and unhomogenized by a centralized entertainment culture in Hollywood. Apple should have thrown their hats into the ring with small and precious producers making individual and unique entertainment unrestrained by gatekeepers, IMHO. The audiences have shifted to that area and will shift more heavily in the next decade.

Apple needs to make prestige events uniting people. Prestige Events Uniting People. Keep it simple as a core operating philosophy. PEUP. Why prestige? Apple has the money to create the prestige, which the common vloggers and YT guys can't. But they have to make true events, not rehashing the old and worn.

Think about it.

Think different.
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When will the above documentary be on Apple TV+?😁
 
There is something everyone is forgetting: critical response.

These shows are boring. They might be good for extremely bored people, except there are so many better things to do and see if you have a computer or game console or healthy body. Apple's M.O. is like throwing mud at a wall; sooner or later they hope to break through with obvious results.

Really? You've watched Episode 1 of each show and formed this opinion?

Or are you just one of those people who are critical of Apple because you think it makes you look cool?

Each of these shows have different writers, different directors, different actors/actresses. These all weren't made by Tim Apple.
 
I was expecting already existing shows and movies to be part of the library, but it’s only a handful of originals. Very underwhelming. Not sure I’ll pay for this!
Why were you expecting that? And if it ever could be that the monthly subscription would be a heck of a lot more than it is right now.
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Apple executives just need to look at Netflix and Spotify. Clear and simple. Not to say that their app design is top notch (esp. for the awful auto playing trailers.....), but at least we clearly know what are we up to with those apps. For the Apple TV app, I don't even know what is from my subscription what is not. I can't even see a list of all episodes.
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