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Everybody who was expecting this thing to be cheap has lost touch with reality.

This isn’t for you, or for practically anyone bitching here.

Wasn't expecting it to be cheap just not out of touch, like a $1000 stand? That should have been standard? lol. I think Tim Cook has jumped the shark and so has Apple. The computer for the rest of us, dead and buried with Jobs.
 
Some films are shot at 120fps although, due to the increased costs, it’s never caught on.

Yeah - unfortunately we aren’t there bandwidth-wise for uncompressed video. The 5k iMac required a proprietary video setup for years, now we have six 6k externals.

Maybe in 2-3 years?
 
I've been hoping that I could sell my Thunderbolt Display and Dell 27" 4K display to maybe pay for 2/3 of whatever new $999 display apple releases. I figure worst case, it's $1299.
HOLY **** WHAT THE ****
I get that it's for pros. The thing is, I AM a pro. Pro photographer and web designer both. For a decent size agency as well as freelance. And this is so far out of our reach it's hilarious. I was simply hoping for an updated 4K monitor that would serve as a thunderbolt 3 hub. Take the Thunderbolt display. Make it 4k. Switch all thunder bolt ports to thunder bolt 3 except for one or 2 for legacy use. The end.


For people like you (and maybe me) something like the Eizo EV3285 ist probably a better fit, price-wise at least....

I like nice displays. But I'm not earning money with them. It would be a bit like buying one of those 17k LG wall-displays.
Come to think of it, a new MacPro (slightly souped-up) and one of those displays plus the stand and you're already closing in on those 17k.
What a time to be alive ;-)

But kudos to whomever can make a business-case to buy one of those. They deserve it.
 
I was just hoping for a sub $1000 4k monitor with thunderbolt connector. Guess I'll have to scour ebay for an old apple display.
 
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I’d say this is pro plus. The top end. Nope that’s not me. And I’m fine that Apple caters to this niche. It’s great. But surely there’s room between a Mac mini and this Mac Pro that isn’t an all in one.
Thank you for the comment....bang on target. I'm tired of reading all these posts bitching because a large segment of the Pro market finds these machines to be out of reach. I have been a graphics pro for 35 years and I need a computer that is not all in one. I'll bet there are many thousands like me who simply cannot afford the $10k+ entry point yet are doing pro work.
 
OLED is not the greatest technology, particularly for static images. Actually, it's to the point I don't want it in most situations.

FYI, Sony have ditched OLED for its Grade 1 TV reference monitor (It's a BVM-X300, I have one) this year and gone back to LCD with better performance... OLED is not all you believe it to be....


Oh, but 1000 bucks for a stand lol ... this is hilarious
 
For people like you (and maybe me) something like the Eizo EV3285 ist probably a better fit, price-wise at least....

I like nice displays. But I'm not earning money with them. It would be a bit like buying one of those 17k LG wall-displays.
Come to think of it, a new MacPro (slightly souped-up) and one of those displays plus the stand and you're already closing in on those 17k.
What a time to be alive ;-)

But kudos to whomever can make a business-case to buy one of those. They deserve it.

If you aren't earning enough money for a $6k display you really can't make a living to buy a modern system.
 
FYI, Sony have ditched OLED for its Grade 1 TV reference monitor (It's a BVM-X300, I have one) this year and gone back to LCD with better performance... OLED is not all you believe it to be....
Agree. It's nice for deep blacks, but that's about it. I prefer other tech for brightness and most importantly, no burn in issues. The other tech has improved to the point the positives of OLED are minimal.

It's pretty much a gap tech until microLED.
 
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I have no problem with 5000UD 6K Ultra Pro screen. Where I have a problem is lack of 2000 2500USD very good Apple sreen with thunderbolt support.
I still have 20 inch and 23 inch ACD. They are OK after all these years but I have issues with connecting them to USB C Macs...

I really wish they scale down the Display to 24". With same PPI, and just scaling the Pixel and backlight. But even by proportional scaling that will be $3999.

999$ stand is magnetic:

"Effortlessly attaches and detaches for quick and easy transportation. The puck-shaped magnetic connector is designed to attach to the back of the display and locks the Pro Stand and the display together. To detach, simply unlock the slider and tilt the display far back to release the magnets, then lift the display off the Pro Stand."

https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/specs/

(Doesn't sound like a full magnetic mount but maybe more like a magnetic "guide", but still...)

Given how heavy I expect that monitor to be, having only magnet for it to work would be a little unrealistic. But I assume this is easy to use instead of screwing around. We will have to see it in real to judge How good it is. But I don't see a problem with $999, if you can afford $4999, ( and likely want a $5999 for Nano Coating ), you can afford additional $999.

$4999 and no OLED? What nonsense is this?

Does anyone mass manufacture 6K OLED panels? Can you point us to a comparable product?

No, your 4K 55” TV OLED is not the same thing, not at all. The pixel density is very low for starters.

Again, the bitching is ridiculous. What exactly did you expect? 6K Retina display for $799?

This thing is a niche product for “pros” and for someone working at Pixar or whatever the price is probably somewhat irrelevant.

Exactly. I mean, why? Why could they not search online, feature by feature, and arrive at just how crazily good this monitor is, the moment they said they need those holes for Heat dissipation I knew this is going to be good.

Why did they not come on Internet forum and ask, politely, "Can someone explain to me like I am three years old why this monitor cost X? ". And instead started ranting about it.

As far as I am aware there isn't a single OLED on the market right now that could sustain 1000nit indefinitely. As a matter of fact, given how Apple is very conservative with their Display brightness number ( Compare to others which is normally blow up their number by quite a lot ). I suspect those LED used in backlight are Top Notch quality to have it labeled as "indefinitely".

Edit: A lot of people are saying they work on graphics and a pros as well but they think it is expensive. It is obvious, the monitor was designed for specifically Video Pros in mind. And not all "pro" which includes people from all domains including developers which, I guess could care less if their code editor is on a 10bit or 8bit monitor.

I think it would be wise if we all reserve our judgement until there is further information. But judging from the presentation I think they are basically putting Mini LED in backlight, you could think of it like MicroLED in the Sony Crystal LED. And as far as I am concern this is very new.
 
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Where do you see that? I see absolutely nothing that says a stand is included. The only reference to any stand is the $999 pro stand add-on. If I’m wrong, please provide a reference...
You're correct: there is no "fixed " stand. Not sure where the Op read such a thing.
 
If you can’t afford it, you’re not the target market. Those who use them as tools to make money—the target market—will be satisfied. Complaints by whiners are meaningless.

P.S. Yes, the stand is quite expensive.

Um - I make money with these “tools” and yes, WAY too expensive.
Just because someone makes money with their equipment doesn’t mean they’re going to agree with stupid prices - $12,000 for a serviceable BASE configuration desktop with monitor.
It’s a dumb argument you made there IMO.
 
Thank you for the comment....bang on target. I'm tired of reading all these posts bitching because a large segment of the Pro market finds these machines to be out of reach. I have been a graphics pro for 35 years and I need a computer that is not all in one. I'll bet there are many thousands like me who simply cannot afford the $10k+ entry point yet are doing pro work.

SHHHHHH. WE DO NOT EXIST.
 
No.

Everybody who was expecting this thing to be cheap has lost touch with reality.

This isn’t for you, or for practically anyone bitching here.

No one is saying it should be. I and everyone else is bitching about the lack of an actual Thunderbolt Display replacement. Full stop. The end.

Now take your apologist strawman and gtfo with it.
 
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Ahh looking up what a IBM Pro workstation costs with Xeon processor that runs Windows, cost a lot more then this new Mac Pro. It is a Workstation Processor not a gaming processor, but you can still play games on it really fast!!!!!!

Oh yea i am running a vega 64 in my 2009 mac pro and it runs great! hmm and it still runs great after 10 years with a 10 year old xeon processor!
 
Perhaps, an Apple Pro Display XDR LITE will be released later this year!


As part of its new Mac Pro unveiling today at WWDC, Apple announced a new 32-inch 6K Retina display with advanced HDR viewing capabilities.

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Called the Pro Display XDR, the new LCD monitor features a 6,016 x 3,384 resolution display and 20 million pixels. It uses a direct backlighting system with a large array of LEDs, able to produce 1,000 nits of full-screen brightness and 1,600 nits of peak brightness.

It's more than 40 percent bigger than Apple's iMac 5K display, and offers users P3 wide color, 10-bit, and several reference modes. The new screen has a 1,000,000:1 contrast ratio and can maintain 1,000 nits of full-screen brightness indefinitely.

The Pro display also features Thunderbolt 3, which enables two monitors to run off a single power source, and up to four displays to be connected together for more screen real estate.

Priced from $4,999, the new monitors feature an anti-reflective coating, and a matte option is also available. The Pro Stand, which is sold separately for $999, provides both tilt and height adjustment, allowing Pro Display XDR to rotate into portrait mode. A VESA Mount Adapter will also be available for $199.

The new monitor and optional extras will be available to order from this fall.

Article Link: Apple Unveils 32-inch 6K 'Pro Display XDR' Monitor Starting at $4,999
 
The cost of this "LCD" monitor is way over priced. It does not even include the stand which is a $999 addition. Absolutely insane price for this monitor. Comparing it with a $40,000 Sony monitor is bull. Those Sony monitors can be calibrated in many different ways and are not that expensive anymore. This is Apple being greedy again.
 
My God, how ridiculous are the answers of fan boys: "If you are a real pro, you'd be making the cost of this Mac Pro per week!"
If I were doing 40k per month I WOULDN'T BE DOING THE PRO WORK. I'd be managing the company that does the pro work, AND NO: I WOULDN'T BUY MY EMPLOYEES 10K COMPUTERS. I'd get more employees to do more work, not spend more money per computer. I'd just get a guy to put together machines optimized for the work they are intended to be used on, without overblowing money on features current software is not optimized for.
 
So the target market is people who are completely unaffected about price considerations at all? And don't give me that pro BS. I am a pro but $6k for a monitor is bad business....period! And i'm not whining, I'm stating an opinion...just like you!!!!!

The target market is anyone needing the specs and performance that the monitor provides and are able to budget appropriately, amortize, etc to support their business or professional needs. For example, high end monitors for photography today run about $5.5k (Eizo, 4k resolution). They've maintained that price point for years. I'd like one, but hey, I'm pretty happy at the moment with my 27 inch LG 5k UF. Works great. $1k. Great resolution, nice color reproduction, TB and so forth. Eizo is selling their $5.5k monitors just fine. They don't see a need to sell me one for $1k. There's a market for $6k monitors, like there is for $5.5k ones. It may not include you, or me for that matter, but I've got reasonably spec'd, priced-in-my-budget monitors I can purchase.

I'd love Apple to deliver a 5k (resolution) 27 inch monitor for around $2.5-$3k with similar performance characteristics of the 6k (resolution) monitor, etc. But I won't hold my breath.
 
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Reminds me of a friend that made roughly $10M/year who bought what he thought was a large and expensive yacht. He spent his first night on it. Woke up the next morning to see a yacht that dwarfed his moored nearby; there is always a next level up.

Absolutely - what a wannabe millionaire
 
I realize it uses TB3 for input, but what are the minimum video card/driver specs? Could an iMac Pro with Vega 56 drive one of these as a second monitor?
 
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