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has anyone seen a side by side of the series 3 and 4 yet? I need to see what the 42 vs 44 actually looks like
 
Did you all notice the crown is not all red for LTE? It's only a circle of red. That circle was kind of hideous.
I can't believe it took until the second page for someone to point this out. I would venture to guess the official response would be "We had to do that to make the ECG work." I don't think they would actually admit that they caved to peoples complaints about aesthetics.
 
Good features for unknown WPW or people > 65. Otherwise this is going to create hypochondriacs by the thousands.

You might fact check your facts before you diss. The number of people who develop arrhythmias at a much younger age is high. They can also be triggered by food, dehydration, alcohol, drugs........ The first symptom of a stroke is a stroke, and yes that is a main outcome of a-fib, thats why they use blood thinners for a-fib, to prevent clotting and hence strokes and heart attacks. I have had arrhythmias since I was a teenager, didn't get diagnosed until I was in my 40s.
 
Anyone know if all models have sapphire display cover rather than the aluminum models having glass as they did in the past? My series 2 is mighty scratched and I'd sell it after getting an apple care repair to cover part of the upgrade cost.

Both have sapphire on the back, but aluminium is still limited to the Ion-X glass on the front.
 
ECG available only in US? Any info when it will be available in europe?

Will vary from country to country as European countries have their own regulation on a country to country basis. My fear is that Apple won't even bother. If you live in the UK, France or Germany you might be lucky but I have my doubts about Apple going to bother with all the testing and approval needed for the rest.
 
It's physically bigger. It's got an extra 1mm added to the top and bottom of the watch, the sides are the same.

The display area is actually bigger as well. This graphic should help. Orange is the new 44mm display area (and 40mm bezel), Dark green is the new 40mm display area. Light green is the original 42mm display area, and the inner white is the old 38mm display area.

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You da real MVP!
 
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Will vary from country to country as European countries have their own regulation on a country to country basis. My fear is that Apple won't even bother. If you live in the UK, France or Germany you might be lucky but I have my doubts about Apple going to bother with all the testing and approval needed for the rest.
Thats a bummer;(
 
Not sure if this will help. I have Apple 3 watch. 2 weeks ago I felt tired and a bit dizzy. I rested a couple of hours in bed when my watched sent me a message that read something like this “you have been resting for a long while yet your heart rate is 41. You may want to get in touch with your doctor”.
I called, the nurse sent an ambulance. The emergency room doctors could not believe that my watch warned me. I had an operation the next morning which included a pacer. The upper part of my heart had slowed the blood flow to the bottom part.

I sent an email to Tim Cook to thank him. He replied a couple of hours later (on a Sunday) wishing me well and letting me know that stories like mine inspire them to keep pushing for answers.

Wow thank you so much for sharing this. A lot people bash Apple for what they do saying its just a way to make money from consumers but this goes to show that the products they make save lives. I hope you're doing great and wish you well in your recovery.
 
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In the civilised world those tests are free.

I'm supportive of single payer, but the scenario you replied to was about a mass number of people going to the ER for false positives. I doubt any health care system wants that, regardless of who or what pays the bill.
 
I can't believe it took until the second page for someone to point this out. I would venture to guess the official response would be "We had to do that to make the ECG work." I don't think they would actually admit that they caved to peoples complaints about aesthetics.

I meant to say the all red was hideous. I like the circle much better.
 
I doubt there will be different hardware versions for each country. This is most likelay a software thing and once people get their hands on one, we'll know for sure. Being able to do a ECG makes it a medical device, so it requires FDA clearance. For every european country it will require a CE certificate + whatever is required by the country itself (e.g. MPG certification for Germany). This will take some time.


Yep, I think it would be bad to actually have a different hardware version... Just ship it disabled, and if the end user moves to the USA or sets up a USA iTunes account, then the ECG can be activated. Simple. Hope that's how they do it, but I need someone to ask a Canadian Apple Genius Bar person, or maybe I will phone call in to Apple Canada. I want the ECG and am willing to set up on the USA Apple App Store/iTunes - whatever it takes.
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So was the new hole on the side explained? If so, I missed it.

microphone separate from speaker - for better audio quality.
 
UK pricing for the watches went up £70-£100 depending on model, compared to equivalent Series 3.

Not happy about that at all...
 
Does it measure heart rate constantly every second now, like every other decent wearable has done for a few years? If not, how can it detect irregular heart beats and sudden drops and spikes in the heart rate with good quality? The series 3 measures heart rate once every 3-5 minutes if sedentary... which makes for some really unreliable data. My garmin measures and logs my heart rate every 1 second, 24/7, all the time by comparison, which creates FAR more reliable data.
They all measure every six seconds but average out the readings
 
The really important upgrade more battery life has not been delivered, have to say I’m disappointed, if I charge it at night I can’t use the sleep features and charging it at day is a pain

After wearing mine all day and doing a 1 hour workout it has anywhere from 60-70% charge at the end of the day. Mine charges in about 20-30 minutes and i could easily do that while getting ready in the morning. How long do you need to top it off to 100%?
 
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Is it still the case that the aluminium has normal glass and steel has fancy sapphire glass? Hard to tell from their website.
 
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I’m in, probably wifey also, as we both have had heart issues, so the added health features can only be a positive.
 
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