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Really cool how Apple made the AirPods experience so seamless. Anyone can make a quality pair of bluetooth EarPods, but leave it to Apple to overhaul how they connect and sync across all your devices and greatly increase the user experience with a simple idea.

That is Apple.
Until the pods fall out of your ear. They are useless laying on the floor...
 
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I guess I have to upgrade my car (can't upgrade the stereo) in order to listen to music and charge the 7 simultaneously. Fail.

You are a troll. For $79, I add a jvc media player to my car and gained the following

1) USB port for charging and digitally playing music to car stereo bypassing the iphone's on board DAC.
2) external microphone for hands free phone conversation.
3) Bluetooth for totally wireless operation.
4) Siri eyesfree for totally safe operation while driving.

I installed it myself in less than 30 minutes and also gained in quality of audio compared to my OEM car stereo.
 
Looks like Apple is limiting the shallow-depth-of-field photo feature to the 7+, sticking with their claim that it's a feature of the dual cameras even though there are other phones that implement the same software filter using a single camera/lens.
 
This is a good thing for consumer choice.
That has to be the most unfitting comment for the iPhone 7 yet.

With the 6S, you have a choice between two options: use the internal amp and DAC in the iPhone and plug in a pair of headphones to the 3.5mm output or get the direct digital audio out of the Lightning port and handle the amplification and DAC any way you want outside of the phone. Again, I'd like to note that there are two options there. Two, 2, 二.

What do you have with the iPhone 7? Oh right, you have one of those options, the latter one. One option is not really an option or a matter of choice. You can either do it or you can't.
 
No worries. Moto, Sanyo, Acer, and Samsung have phones for you with the old jack.

The courage to switch to the phone that meets your needs... Just do it and find happiness!
Customer satisfaction? Is that not a thing anymore?
 
I don't know how else to explain it.

Subsidized Phone: $299, $399, $499
Unsubsidized Phone: $749

Both phones new out of the box

Monthly bill for BOTH plans: the same for me as it always has. No change in monthly cost
In my experience specifically, with the old two-year contract at the end of two years the price for the line didn't drop. When I switched to a plan with unsubsidized phones, the price immediately dropped significantly, and if I opted to purchase a phone from AT&T on one of their payment plans, that plan ends when the payments are over. More transparent, better.
 
So you're going to show the courage to not buy that plus model after all? Which brand are you going with instead?
You may be content with corporations giving you the option to either pay more for the same product or not purchase it at all, but I at least have the "courage" to complain when I feel I'm being taken advantage of.
 
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Not a single one of those reasons was an actual benefit to users. Every headphone manufactured that will work with this phone will have to pay a licensing fee to Apple. That's the real reason for this move.
Ok.
 
(haven't checked to see if others have replied) They're almost gone in the US. On my plan, I can still get subsidized phones, but they are much more expensive for the monthly charge for the line. I had to upgrade my (AT&T) plan to get the new pricing, though.

I was able to locate 2-year contract prices on Verizon if I upgrade to a 6s. Hoping this stick with the 7.
 
Umm...you do know audio is inherently analog right? Unless they remove all the speakers on the phone there already a DAC and amp that needs to be there.

Um, you do know the low bandwidth DAC that drives the speaker for listening to phone conversations and for the built-in speaker is not deigned for high-quality audio and integrated into a larger system chip, right. Rather than the separate high-quality DAC used for driving the headphone jack.
 
Is it possible that a lightning Y-splitter adapter will come out that plugs into the iPhone and one part will hook up to the charger and the other part would be the headphone jack? It would be a bigger adapter, but work fine for when I'm in the car and want to charge my iPhone, but NOT listen to my husband's country radio station. I really like my Bose noise cancelling in-ear headphones!
 
From the photos, it doesn't look like you can charge while listening to headphones. If true, that's a pretty huge downside. The only option would be to spend more money on wireless headphones of some kind.

Bingoooooooooooooooooooooooo. So I can either listen or charge? Ummm how about a pass through adapter Oh wait a minute I just gave Apple an idea to charge Mo Money, Mo Money. Courage? nah more like $$$$$$$$$ and the battery life did not see a significant improvement at all.
Ceramic watch 1200+ dollars and all I get is the cheesy rubber watch band? WTH

Come on new MBA's and MBPr.
 
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That always bothered me. They always say, "the cost of the subsidy is built into the monthly bill"...but when I was last on a subsidized phone once the two year period was up I didn't receive a lower bill, though I inquired. On the other hand, when I switched plans and all the lines were from phones that had already passed their two-year contracts, our monthly charge DID go down, significantly.

That's the clever thing in the USA. The cost of the phone is included in your monthly bill. And after two years, when your phone is completely paid for, they continue charging the cost of the phone in your monthly bill!

In the UK, I pay a bill in two parts; one for the phone calls and data, which is the same whatever phone I use, and one for the phone which stops after two years unless I replace the phone with a new one. I can instead get a new phone after 12 months (if I pay the 12 months of the old phone) or after 36 months (so my phone is free for the last 12 months), and in any case the phone is mine and can go on eBay.
 
Like I said, what if the batteries of the wireless headphones are low, too?

It have to be wireless batteries running out plus phone battery running out (otherwise you could use the lightening cabled earphones) before you would be unable to listen to music. I don't see this as much of an issue.
 
As a 30 year full time pro, could you tell us how much you would have to pay for a standalone photo camera and/or video camera that is about the same quality as the camera in an iPhone 7 or 7+?

If I get one ( undecided ) I would first evaluate it then make that comparison. But lets play devils advocate here for a moment, shall we?

The Nikon D700 is 12MP, has great image quality at ISO 3,200 ( iPhone 7? ) and with both a 28mm 1.8 and 50mm 1.8 AF lens will set you back about $1,200. Unlike the phone, when the battery dies you can simply put in a new one instead of having to the plug the camera in...I worked with $14,000 digital cameras in the mid 90's that you had to plug in when the battery died, lol!

You also get real bokeh, not software centric which means it can be used with far greater control and awareness of what it *actually* does.

We could go on and on here but the deal is that those who want a great camera in their phone ( I do ) will find that to be a valuable asset in the iPhone 7. And those who are more along the lines of either photo enthusiasts or actual photographers ( earn a full time income ) will for sure use a dedicated camera system.

The shallow depth of field feature will be a "Look at me" gimmick to get likes for some and a tool for others, that simple really.

But mark my words, all the usual suspects that can not see beyond their 4.7" or 5.5" world for even 5 minutes will call this the death knell for DSLRs, mirrorless, Leica, Nikon and professional photographers, happens every time and my work, my tax returns and my direct experience tells me differently.
 
I love the jet black iPhone. It helps make up for not having a new design. The camera also seems substantially better, which is very important to me because it's my only camera. The water proofing is also HUGE for me. No more keeping my phone in a plastic bad when I'm around water. A wide color gamut and brighter display are also nice, especially for reading in the sun. The speed increase is nice. Sometimes it's also nice to have louder speakers.

The big downside is the headphone jack. I seriously don't like Apple's headphones and Bluetooth headphones are too fiddly, so I'm going to end up using that dongle. I'm not sure it's a big deal, but it is definitely a minus.

The phone doesn't really strike any emotional cords (except maybe the jet black color), but it's better in a lot of important ways.
 
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