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Wrong. I had a 3Gs and it was subsidized.

Every year until this one I have paid $130.00 a month for two iPhones with unlimited data. Every year I sold one of my phones and upgraded. Either paying $99, $199, or $299. Then recouping some or all of my cost by selling my old phone. Only now if I want to upgrade do I have to pay for the phone in one of those stupid NEXT plans and my cost will go up by however many months I want to lease the phone for. Or I can just buy the phone and be done either way I am coming out of pocket the full price of the phone plus the monthly cost for service. You must have been on a different plan.
 
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When Apple removed the floppy disk, everyone knew the CD was a superior upgrade. When Apple removed the optical drive, usb drives and digital downloads were the superior upgrade. Bluetooth and wireless audio have not proven to be the superior upgrade to wired audio. Whether or not wireless audio can ever match or exceed wired is a huge question mark.

Well... we shouldn't be afraid to at least try and improve on it, no? Goes with any other technology out there.
 
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It costs them nothing and is a good hedge against the loss of new sales from those still requiring a jack and highest performance analogue sound.

Actually someone in another thread pointed out that 16GB RAM chips are now more expensive than 32GB chips because of sales volume. Apple still use the cheapest amount of RAM for the base iPhones - less than other devices in the same price range. They are shameless.

The big feature here is the quad-core A10 Fusion with 2 efficient cores and 2 high performance ones.

I don't care about the colours, as it'll be stuck in a case anyway. In terms of features, nothing outweighs the loss of a jack.

Camera may be even bigger than the A10 Fusion. It sounds great but we'll see about the actual performance.

But you're right, for many people nothing outweighs the loss of the jack. Apple presents it as solving the problem of space, but they created the problem themselves by making the iPhone so thin.

And those horrid video shorts at the event, they sounded like designer clothing or watch/jewelry ads aimed at rich DBs. All style with some tech buzzwords thrown in "because a man of discerning taste wants only the best in life." Apple has always had style but they weren't always about vapid style.
 
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Why did it have to happen someday? There is no benefit to getting rid of the headphone jack unlike getting rid of floppy disks or CD drives.

The headphone jack internals take up valuable space inside the phone and there would be no way to make the phone water resistant--without some kind of (easily misplaced) rubberized gasket for the headphone jack--so there is, indeed, a benefit to ditching it.
 
Sounds like you don't know how audio work. All headphones are analogue. You can't go fully digital.
Indeed. Apple has simply chosen to move the DAC to a far less convenient location for no good reason whatsoever.

jasperc said:
The headphone jack internals take up valuable space inside the phone and there would be no way to make the phone water resistant--without some kind of (easily misplaced) rubberized gasket for the headphone jack

The Samsung Galaxy S7, Sony Xperia Z5 and numerous other water resistant devices would disagree.

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AlexBurkman said:
No, wireless sounds shi***
And I'm assuming you're speaking from experience?

Why yes, I am. Bluetooth audio (AptX included) has a dreadful tendency to vary the pitch of the stream in order to compensate for changes in bandwidth availability due to signal strength.
 
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I think I'll get the airports and wait for the 10th anniversary phone. Yes the 7 looks great but I'll move to airpods first but in living my 2 year old 6 plus .

I'll wait for reports of 6 , s working with ios10 first before installing the update though.....
The 6/6s work perfectly with iOS 10.
 
With double the storage...and you're complaining?
So since the processing speed of iPhone 7 is now roughly 120 times the speed of iPhone 1, its price should be starting at approximately $60.000. They practically give them away nowadays! ;)
 
Introducing the new iPhone 7 in piano black! (Last seen in the wild on the iPhone 3GS.)

Love it when "old" is "new" again.
 
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My point is that the amount you pay each month on an 'old plan' likely includes a 1/24 or 1/18 cost of the phone itself and if you switched to a new plan you'd see your monthly cost drop, but you would have to purchase a phone. At the end of the day most people are in the same net position because they're paying less each month for their service but they now incur a distinct monthly hardware cost.

The only thing I was correcting is that the carriers have never subsided the phones. That's what they wanted you to believe, but they don't make money by taking a $500 hit on every phone they hand out!!!

So true and exactly my point. iPhones are overpriced compared to Mac's and iPads. We never felt it until now.
 
This is the redesign. You'll have to wait another 2 years for the next redesign.

Have you paid attention to MR and other sources the past few months? I'll have to mark down your screen name to say "hello, are you ready to upgrade to the new redesigned iPhone 8" at next year's iPhone reveal.:D
 
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Did Tim Cook tell you this himself or something?

That is what's happening. This model was put together after their suppliers couldn't get the needed parts for their original design for this, which will now be moved to the 8, next year. They over thought themselves and are now using "10th Anniversary" as a crutch.
 
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Tough decision, between black and Jet black. Now I have to decide on the storage tiers. 128 GB is more than I need. But I love the new colors.
 
So you're pumped that they will one day remove a massive design flaw that they themselves introduced?
Sure am. Phil Schiller lightly touched on the flawed antenna bands in the keynote. Looking forward to those design flaws, antenna band and protruding camera, complete compromises in the design, being removed next year. This new release ain't getting a look in or purchase from me.
 
That's not actually true. 3.5mm headphone jack is analogue, so it has to covert the digital recording into analogue which means quality loss in the sound. Lighting is fully digital. So it will be better quality.
Oh my god. Do you have digital ears? You don't. Lighting is fully digital up to just the point where the digital signal is transformed into sound so that you can hear it.
 
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