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Apple Updates Boot Camp With Windows 10 Support

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Apple today released an update to Boot Camp with support for Microsoft Windows 10, according to a new support document. The update, Boot Camp 6, is still propagating and is not yet available for OS X. However, several MacRumors forum members have noted the update is available within Windows partitions in Boot Camp, Apple's tool to allow Intel Mac owners to dual boot OS X and Windows.

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Boot Camp 6 also includes support for several Mac features within Windows 10, including USB 3, USB-C, Thunderbolt, built-in SD and SDXC card slots, built-in or external Apple SuperDrives, and the Apple keyboard, mouse and trackpad.

Windows 10 support is only available on select Macs with OS X Yosemite and the latest version of Boot Camp, which will automatically download the support software (drivers) needed to use Windows 10 on a Mac.

Boot Camp requires an authentic copy of Windows 10 for a new installation, which can be purchased from Microsoft in an ISO file or USB stick for $119. Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 users can upgrade to Windows 10 for free from within their Windows partition as long as the user's software is completely up to date.

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I purchased a MacPro (late 2013) in early 2014. My primary reason for doing so was to upgrade to a 4K monitor for use in my photography hobby. Of course, we know Apple never provided a 4K monitor which could be used with the MacPro so there went that idea.
In the meantime, while dealing with other issues I never installed Windows on my MP being satisfied to use it via Parallels on my MBAir.
I would now like to install Windows on the MP via Boot Camp. I have a legal copy of Windows 7 upgrade from Vista.
When I run the Boot Camp Assistant I am told it cannot work with Win 7.
Apart from purchasing Win 8 (or 10) is there anyway I can get Win 7 to work with my MacPro6,1?
 
HenryDJP said:
Okay Steve, just think about it. If you were a business owner, especially in the shoes of a big corporation you would be doing the exact same thing, even possibly being more stingy. Don't lie. No business can stay a float making sure customers who bought from them 5-10 years back have no reason to upgrade. That's not good business. That's why Microsoft is now putting out their latest OS's more frequently, to get legacy lazies off their butts so innovations can move forward.

On top of that we're talking about Apple supporting a competitor's OS on their machines. Apple is no longer in the position of "needing" to get people to buy Macs by allowing Windows to be installed as they were back in 2006. I'm not defending them but to expect them to support a competitor's latest OS to be installed on their machines more than 3 years back is expecting too much, and I would say Apple is being pretty generous about it. I would love to see what Samsung does for Apple's customers....OH WAIT. They do nothing for Apple's customers but SELL Apple parts. And Microsoft? What do they do for Apple's customers? NOTHING....but SELL us Office subscriptions.
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Short-term thinking again. You're not talking about staying afloat, you're talking about hitting some numbers on a spreadsheet to make investors happy, no matter the other (less tangible) costs to the business. How one 'stays afloat' in the long-term, is about happy customers who give you repeat business and do your marketing for you (i.e.: brand evangelism).

What you're referring to is idiotic business practices like planned obsolesce, which is a form of 'common CEO wisdom' of failing and failed companies.
 
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Feenix said:
So I have a supported system. (2014 riMac) and I had an install of Win10 (legit) but it lacked some drivers... I went into Windows 10, ran Apple Software Updater, and it restarted. Now when I restart, it hangs trying to get into windows and then after a lengthy black screen, starts booting up OS X again. Repeatable. What should I do? Best course of action? I'd wipe and restart fresh but I cannot even find how to get Boot Camp 6 on the OS X side yet for setup!
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The same happened to me with Lacie tb ssd external Windows 10 installed there.
 
Somebody already upgrade from windows 7 to 10 on bootcamp with out reinstall all windows again just the upgrade
 
Nunyabinez said:
Just borked my perfectly working Windows 10 installation on a iMac w/Retina. Display driver won't load and of course the installer won't work in safe mode to restore the older driver. Thanks Apple.

EDIT: If anyone else encounters this problem, boot in safe mode and roll-back the video driver. I have the 295x.
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I have the same problem, how to roll-back the video driver?
 
Steve121178 said:
I thought the same... until I started using Cortana. It's amazing.
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Can you give me an example usage case? (i.e.: I get why Cortana or Siri is handy when you're driving, or maybe it's even more efficient than using a tiny keyboard on a phone.... but, I'm sitting here at my desktop working away... and exactly how is it more efficient to start talking to my computer... social awkwardness aside if I were at a coffee shop, etc.)
 
vagos1103gr said:
I have the same problem, how to roll-back the video driver?
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boot into safe mode (allow it to attempt recovery, the follow these instructions on option 2 from 'troubleshoot'

http://www.7tutorials.com/4-ways-boot-safe-mode-windows-10

once youve booted, download and run DDU

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

once youve removed the display driver, restart your computer into windows again in normal mode.

then find the driver on your USB stick and run it separately.
 
Would you happen to know how I can update my Windows 10 Boot Camp on my now-officially-unsupported mid-2011 27" iMac?
ATC said:
This artificial gimping by Apple is unfortunate but at least there are workarounds for those of us who are willing to do the legwork. Windows 10 is breathing new life into this old mac.
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SteveW928 said:
Do you happen to see any possible connection between those two? ;)
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Funny, but there is no direct correlation logically.


The point is that people act like they paid for it and we didn't. It's a great bonus, I use it but I'm not complaining because it wasn't fast enough. As I said, I have a few devices made for windows and they haven't released their drivers.
 
HenryDJP said:
A Hassle? How so? You have to shut down OS X and boot up to Windows using Bootcamp. You can run OS X and Windows side by side without booting using a Virtual machine. I would love for you to explain to me how that's more of a hassle?
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Because I liked bootcamp in the way that it's a native solution.
It is also _free_ and completely discrete of os x.
 
Elbon said:
Um, you didn't get a new system.
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Which is why I didn't claim I did.

But it has many new parts, including a new battery, what must be a new case, and a perfect looking screen. It was 1/3 the cost of a new one with better overall expandability and only slightly lesser specs (apart from the screen). It even has virtually the same nVidia graphics that was current just a few months ago. And it supports two external monitors, despite the fact that I could find no evidence of this capability online. It looks new and is new to me, so I can call it new.



I had a new one (2014 MBPr 15") for a short time at the beginning of the year. It was definitely nicer. But this one is close enough, and a much better value. It also appears I may be able to piggyback onto many of the benefits of having a new model, since its sibling (the 13" mid-2012 MacBook Pro) is still a current (new) model. Needless to say I'm happy so far.
 
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SteveW928 said:
Short-term thinking again. You're not talking about staying afloat, you're talking about hitting some numbers on a spreadsheet to make investors happy, no matter the other (less tangible) costs to the business. How one 'stays afloat' in the long-term, is about happy customers who give you repeat business and do your marketing for you (i.e.: brand evangelism).

What you're referring to is idiotic business practices like planned obsolesce, which is a form of 'common CEO wisdom' of failing and failed companies.
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Okay, well if Apple was doing the wrong thing they would be out of business by now. For them to start with only $150m in 1999 and now today with over $200B of available cash they are obviously pleasing more customers than you care to admit. The only people that feel these types of practices are idiotic and underhanded are techies and enthusiasts which represent and very small amount of the consumer buying audience.

As I said before, anyone that seriously needs to run Windows 10 on older 3 year old hardware are not gamers, therefore any Virtual Machine supporting Windows 10 would more than suffice. People here just want to argue just for the sake of, when there is a solution.

I remember back when Apple had not yet updated OS X to work with the latest version of Parallels. This place went into an outrage with people saying they don't use Bootcamp and never would. All of sudden the tables are turned today and the ones arguing are conveniently ignoring the VM's because it's an easy solution and it would nullify their reason to argue. ;)
 
guys saying that apple is not supporting 2011 machines because it was a planned obsolescence move is overthinking.
Apple simply has limited resources, believe it or not, and they'd rather expound the extra energy required to support the older machines to better support the later machines.
simple as that. sure, they can hire more people, but Id rather hire more engineers to make the next OS better. who wouldnt?
 
SteveW928 said:
Can you give me an example usage case? (i.e.: I get why Cortana or Siri is handy when you're driving, or maybe it's even more efficient than using a tiny keyboard on a phone.... but, I'm sitting here at my desktop working away... and exactly how is it more efficient to start talking to my computer... social awkwardness aside if I were at a coffee shop, etc.)
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Use it and see for yourself. I find I often ask it the weather and stuff like that to get an instant response. It's also very intelligent about responding to specific statements/requests. It's not something I use all day long, but when I want to it does what it's supposed to very, very well.
 
sundragon said:
Funny, but there is no direct correlation logically.


The point is that people act like they paid for it and we didn't. It's a great bonus, I use it but I'm not complaining because it wasn't fast enough. As I said, I have a few devices made for windows and they haven't released their drivers.
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You don't see a link between happy customers and profits?
 
vagos1103gr said:
I have the same problem, how to roll-back the video driver?
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All I did was after the computer fails a few times it will ask you to press F8 for boot options. I selected safe boot. Once booted in you may have to change the resolution because some things will be hard to see. You will probably also need a wired mouse since you can't right click the trackpad in safe mode. Go to control panels, device manager and then to display adapter. Click on it to expose the video card, right click and select properties. Then there is a button to roll back driver. Wait for it to finish and reboot. That's what I did.
 
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