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As a non Apple Watch owner here is what would make me consider the second gen:

- Better battery life
- Waterproof
- Slimmer Profile
- GPS
 
No what I'm asking you is HOW in the world putting a web browser on a 2" screen works. What exactly are you even able to do with it?

For that matter, how in the hell are you typing? Why is this a better solution than using a phone or a computer?
Like I said, I like Samsung's Gear S web browser and keyboard. They got that part right. If Apple could take cues from that for the AW, that would be a dream come true. The negatives of Gear S are of course that you need a contract and different number with it and that it is a bit big. AW2 can take the web browser and keyboard design and fuse the two concepts together in a thinner and better watch and were golden.
 
Like I said, I like Samsung's Gear S web browser and keyboard. They got that part right. If Apple could take cues from that for the AW, that would be a dream come true. The negatives of Gear S are of course that you need a contract and different number with it and that it is a bit big. AW2 can take the web browser and keyboard design and fuse the two concepts together in a thinner and better watch and were golden.

I hope Apple doesn't listen to you. The Gear S is a ridiculously large and I can't believe the percentage of people that would ever buy one (outside of total geeks) would be anything Apple would be interested in... too small a market. You will always have a mobile phone with you, so why in the world would you need to replicate all that capability in your watch. ... and don't forget you'd have to pay a monthly fee for the privilege. Going back to a tiny browser and keyboard... can't imagine it would ever be useful to the point of being quicker than pulling out your phone and doing it on a real screen. Your arm would also get really tired sitting there browsing and typing on your wrist.

I saw the my first Gear S in the wild on a rental car bus several weeks ago. I almost laughed out loud when I looked over and saw that on his wrist. When I got back to the office I did some googling about it and my opinion didn't change. As I said, can't see many people wanting something that huge, and certainly Apple won't be interested in a tiny market like that.

You should change the title of the thread, because this isn't a rumor at all... this is you hoping that Apple will sell a Gear S, and the odds of that are less than winning the lottery I would say.
 
As a current owner, the items I would like to see added would be: GPS, probably longer battery life to allow always on display even if it dims like the new TAG, more watch faces whether that is now or not, more awards, more fitness options in the workout app, dual core or much faster processor.

As for me, I wouldn't upgrade for gps as I don't need it and the size is just right for me. All the rest might be software. :)
 
From telling the time, to reading email, to surfing the web, to video games, to accounting software, to IMAX movies, there are a range of screen sizes that make sense, depending on the application. I can't imagine not simply getting my phone out of my pocket, if I wanted to look something up on the web, just like how I put away my phone and get out my laptop to run something like accounting software.
 
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It doesn't even need to be thinner, just faster. Much, much faster. All the functions it has now would be so much more relevant if they were as fast (or faster) to do on the watch as the phone. The current S1 28nm SoC which is basically an underclocked iphone 4 is just too slow in many cases.

The watch already tries to do way more than it can practically, Samsung Gear is just insane geekery that has no relevance to the Apple watch. The Apple watch is jewelry, you can't say the same for samsung gear.


Camera's sound like a good idea until you realize that they film from your wrist and therefore have a weird under-chin point of view in most cases. There will be no camera on the AW2.

I wouldn't be surprised if the case changes were very, very subtle. I don't think you'll see much difference, physically, besides a few mm in thickness (maybe) and better materials. I bet they will pack some kind of A9-derived 14nm or 16nm SoC that is much more powerful than S1. S2 will be like iphone 5S speed levels.
 
It doesn't even need to be thinner, just faster. Much, much faster. All the functions it has now would be so much more relevant if they were as fast (or faster) to do on the watch as the phone. The current S1 28nm SoC which is basically an underclocked iphone 4 is just too slow in many cases.

The watch already tries to do way more than it can practically, Samsung Gear is just insane geekery that has no relevance to the Apple watch. The Apple watch is jewelry, you can't say the same for samsung gear.


Camera's sound like a good idea until you realize that they film from your wrist and therefore have a weird under-chin point of view in most cases. There will be no camera on the AW2.

I wouldn't be surprised if the case changes were very, very subtle. I don't think you'll see much difference, physically, besides a few mm in thickness (maybe) and better materials. I bet they will pack some kind of A9-derived 14nm or 16nm SoC that is much more powerful than S1. S2 will be like iphone 5S speed levels.

Yeah, outside of my hope that they keep the strap connection standard for at least a few models, making the Watch thinner would probably result in a smaller crown/button, which doesn't sound great. The thickness of the Apple Watch is already within the range of your standard sport mechanical watch, although it is a little thicker than a dress watch.

I have a 38mm model on the link bracelet, and it's pretty compact. Most people don't realize I'm even wearing a smartwatch.
 
It doesn't even need to be thinner, just faster. Much, much faster. All the functions it has now would be so much more relevant if they were as fast (or faster) to do on the watch as the phone. The current S1 28nm SoC which is basically an underclocked iphone 4 is just too slow in many cases.

The watch already tries to do way more than it can practically, Samsung Gear is just insane geekery that has no relevance to the Apple watch. The Apple watch is jewelry, you can't say the same for samsung gear.


Camera's sound like a good idea until you realize that they film from your wrist and therefore have a weird under-chin point of view in most cases. There will be no camera on the AW2.

I wouldn't be surprised if the case changes were very, very subtle. I don't think you'll see much difference, physically, besides a few mm in thickness (maybe) and better materials. I bet they will pack some kind of A9-derived 14nm or 16nm SoC that is much more powerful than S1. S2 will be like iphone 5S speed levels.

I don't think the processor is necessarily the problem. Its driving a tiny screen and running tiny apps. The lag is probably from inter-device communications with the iPhone, and apps not being written efficiently to do that. Bluetooth is pretty slow, and WiFi can occasionally have lag.

The apps I use on a regular basis on the watch are very quick. If I find one that isn't responding very quickly, then it I quickly kick it off the watch.
 
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Yeah, outside of my hope that they keep the strap connection standard for at least a few models, making the Watch thinner would probably result in a smaller crown/button, which doesn't sound great. The thickness of the Apple Watch is already within the range of your standard sport mechanical watch, although it is a little thicker than a dress watch.

I have a 38mm model on the link bracelet, and it's pretty compact. Most people don't realize I'm even wearing a smartwatch.
I have a 38mm w milanese loop and its the same. Most people don't notice at all. If I wear the brighter sports band though people notice it more.

I think they might introduce a new model but my guess is it will not differ in dimensions much between the current cases. I'm sure bands will be backwards compatible too.
 
I have a 38mm w milanese loop and its the same. Most people don't notice at all. If I wear the brighter sports band though people notice it more.

I think they might introduce a new model but my guess is it will not differ in dimensions much between the current cases. I'm sure bands will be backwards compatible too.

Yeah, I've mentioned it before, but my sister, who knows I'm into watches, came to stay with us, and it took her a couple of days to even notice that I'd switched from my Rolex to the Apple Watch. Once she did notice, I showed her the features, and she bought one the next day. I've been enjoying sending her sketches. It's a fun little perk.
 
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Improved speed, give developers full access to all the sensors without silly restrictions and keep comparability with the bands. That's all I need.
 
slimmer, faster, FaceTime camera and most definitely waterproof so I can use it for swimming....possibly a longer battery life as well.
 
I don't think the processor is necessarily the problem. Its driving a tiny screen and running tiny apps. The lag is probably from inter-device communications with the iPhone, and apps not being written efficiently to do that. Bluetooth is pretty slow, and WiFi can occasionally have lag.

The apps I use on a regular basis on the watch are very quick. If I find one that isn't responding very quickly, then it I quickly kick it off the watch.

That's a good point about the lag, and I only use native apps, so I haven't had much issue. I really only use the watch for anything that I can do in a few seconds, which is why FaceTime camera doesn't make much sense to me. Holding one's wrist up for extended periods isn't very comfortable, when one can just pull out a phone.
 
Better battery so I wear it all night and track my sleep. Sleep is pretty much the only thing my Apple Watch doest do. Waterproof would be nice but not a deal breaker.
 
I'd want faster processing and better battery life. I'd like applications and complications to update more often. I want the straps to be interchangeable with the current version. I don't want to pay for a separate cellular connection, I'm cool if that's an option for people that want it but I personally don't. Honestly that's about it.

I do think bands that could connect with the watch and provide additional capabilities would be awesome. Battery GPS band for camping or excercise, health band with more sensors etc. A lot of the compromises they had to make for space concerns like battery gps could be mitigated by this and allow you to customize performance to your needs.
 
I have a "magical" wishlist (What the Apple in my head would do) and a "Tim Cook" list which is what Apple will most likely do with Watch 2.

Magical List:

- Watch 2 casing shape is angled slightly to fit the wrist better making it both look less like a square chunk on your wrist and maintaining heart rate sensor contact better.
- Addition of new bands that offer battery pack, blood pressure sensor, blood sugar sensor
- A battery conserving always-on screen mode which would be dim but legible and brighter when the wrist is raised.
- bonus: kinetic battery recharging (arm movement recharges watch). May be beyond limitation of tech.

The Tim Cook List:

- Thinner, Faster, Lighter (The same old boring formula)
- Facetime Camera (Come on Jony, just add a Facetime Camera even if it makes no sense. Customers LOVE our Facetime Camera).
- 48mm- 56mm Casing size ( Apple Watch "Do you even lift bro?" Edition)

Bonus nerd rage: Watch 1 bands won't fit Watch 2 casing.
 
Better battery so I wear it all night and track my sleep. Sleep is pretty much the only thing my Apple Watch doest do. Waterproof would be nice but not a deal breaker.
I wear my watch every night as my silent alarm and sleep tracking with sleep pulse. I charge my watch from 9-10pm as the only time I charge per day. I go to bed with a 100% charged watch and wake up with 91% because of sleep pulse or 95% without it. I finish the day with 40-50% at 9pm and it takes about an hour to charge.

I sometimes charge in the morning when I shower so at night I am at 50-60% by 9pm.
 
I just want it to read directions from maps. If I'm using it for GPS, I'm not wanting to risk reading the tiny screen.

Not legal to use cellphone in our city. Would be nice to use the speaker for directions from the watch.
 
I just want it to read directions from maps. If I'm using it for GPS, I'm not wanting to risk reading the tiny screen.

Not legal to use cellphone in our city. Would be nice to use the speaker for directions from the watch.
True, it doesn't speak "left", "right", or street names, but at least it plays a tone for left or right: "ding-dong" for "left", and "dong-ding" for "right". The sounds are like how pitches are arranged on a piano keyboard.
 
Either GPS or if that hits the battery too much, a "gps band" accessory that you can easily attach on for running.

A thinner, lighter profile if possible.

Less buggy software. My watch frequently has issues with loading icons properly, and almost all the running apps have issues working seamlessly.
 
If I could pick only 3 hardware improvements, it would be:
  1. Cellular option for "iPhone Free" use. T-Mobile offers Wearable Plan at just $5 (500MB LTE/4G/3G, unlimited 2G), AT&T and Sprint at $10 (shared data).
  2. Faster. No more lags.
  3. More responsive Taptic Engine with stronger haptic feedback.
Always on screen, GPS, and more sensors would certainly be nice, but those 3 would top my list.
 
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Louder speakers for phone calls
Better Bluetooth range, if possible independent from iPhone
Slimmer and sexier
New faces, ROMAN faces please
Better bands
 
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