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I don't think anyone has to worry about bands being obsoleted.

The money-grabbing argument doesn't make sense. Apple has more money than Exxon, for crying out loud.

The "oh they obsolete everything else, just look at FireWire and the floppy drive" argument doesn't make any sense, either. There is no technological reason to change the strap connection -- no power requirements, no data throughput, no MagSafe (which I secretly hope never goes away completely)…

There's no reason to change the simplest, most secure, most adaptable, most user-friendly wristwatch strap connector I've ever seen. Go ahead, ask your watch nerd friend how easy it is to gouge a watch case with a springbar tool.
 
I don't think anyone has to worry about bands being obsoleted.

The money-grabbing argument doesn't make sense. Apple has more money than Exxon, for crying out loud.

The "oh they obsolete everything else, just look at FireWire and the floppy drive" argument doesn't make any sense, either. There is no technological reason to change the strap connection -- no power requirements, no data throughput, no MagSafe (which I secretly hope never goes away completely)…

There's no reason to change the simplest, most secure, most adaptable, most user-friendly wristwatch strap connector I've ever seen. Go ahead, ask your watch nerd friend how easy it is to gouge a watch case with a springbar tool.
Agreed. Apple would tick off a lot of people if the bands became obsolete within a year. The Apple Watch bands will probably be compatible for a while, but that is just my opinion. They could come out with different sizes but that is also a long shot.

I think the Apple Watch is going to be more like the iPad in that people won't pay to upgrade with each version (not as many at least). just different paying cash versus hiding it in your monthly payment or 12/24 free upgrade options.

Now, if the second version has killer hardware features and changes, more will want to upgrade. Still not sure what would get me to upgrade. Wearables are here to stay and the Apple Watch will eventually sell 30-50mm a year or a lot more.
 
Agreed. Apple would tick off a lot of people if the bands became obsolete within a year. The Apple Watch bands will probably be compatible for a while, but that is just my opinion. They could come out with different sizes but that is also a long shot.

I think the Apple Watch is going to be more like the iPad in that people won't pay to upgrade with each version (not as many at least). just different paying cash versus hiding it in your monthly payment or 12/24 free upgrade options.

Now, if the second version has killer hardware features and changes, more will want to upgrade. Still not sure what would get me to upgrade. Wearables are here to stay and the Apple Watch will eventually sell 30-50mm a year or a lot more.
The most rumored new features to be announced at the "March" event appear to be New Health Sensors either in the watch or in the bands, Independent Wi-Fi, Sleep Tracking and FaceTime Camera. This all according to 9to5MAC.

None of those would get me to upgrade. Maybe buy a new band or two if the sensors were useful and compatible with gen 1. GPS wouldn't, built-in sensors that I really wanted but don't know yet... Maybe. Independent Wi-Fi maybe. I'm just invested too much with the first gen.
 
I would very much like it to be waterproof to 10m. I swim 3x a week for about 70-75 minutes each time. To meet my activity goal, I sometimes (always) "have" to add a recumbent elliptical bike workout. I swear to stop doing this January 1 or the 4th. It's only that I want another month "reward" for activity. If swimming would be counted - I'd meet my goal all days. And as soon as the Apple Watch 2 hits the market, I'll order it - and then I'll wear Apple Watch 1 in the pool BUT like a previous poster suggested - having the OS integrate the data from 2 watches. I just don't have the courage to go in the pool now with the watch. Yes, I have Apple Care for it - but I fear the denial for "water damage. Would be fun to try though. For those swimmers - do you set the workout to "other" or do you just rely on elevated heart beat to be recorded as exercise?
 
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I would very much like it to be waterproof to 10m. I swim 3x a week for about 70-75 minutes each time. To meet my activity goal, I sometimes (always) "have" to add a recumbent elliptical bike workout. I swear to stop doing this January 1 or the 4th. It's only that I want another month "reward" for activity. If swimming would be counted - I'd meet my goal all days. And as soon as the Apple Watch 2 hits the market, I'll order it - and then I'll wear Apple Watch 1 in the pool BUT like a previous poster suggested - having the OS integrate the data from 2 watches. I just don't have the courage to go in the pool now with the watch. Yes, I have Apple Care for it - but I fear the denial for "water damage. Would be fun to try though. For those swimmers - do you set the workout to "other" or do you just rely on elevated heart beat to be recorded as exercise?
I wear my Apple Watch to swim at the Y and have since I got the watch. Not a professional swimmer at all, I just do laps and never take the watch off. I set to workout/other. Never had a problem with the watch. Maybe I am pushing my luck, I don't know, but once I saw the video of people swimming and keeping the watch under water for a long time, I decided to not hold back.
 
I wear my Apple Watch to swim at the Y and have since I got the watch. Not a professional swimmer at all, I just do laps and never take the watch off. I set to workout/other. Never had a problem with the watch. Maybe I am pushing my luck, I don't know, but once I saw the video of people swimming and keeping the watch under water for a long time, I decided to not hold back.
Thanks. You may be giving me the courage to try - I won't tomorrow - but I'll start off 2016 that way ... Exciting motivation.
 
I am betting that visually the watch will change very little. Bands will remain compatible.

Things that will change:
- Faster. Much faster. This is the #1 thing holding this device back right now
- Officially waterproof. Not excessively, but enough for people to feel comfortable swimming with it.
- Health sensor improvements. I'd expect a revised HR monitor. Maybe some additional sensors.

I don't expect GPS in this revision. It's a huge want for many of us, myself included, but I can't see them adding it. It takes up space, and eats battery life. They can't afford either of those right now. A GPS band could be awesome though.

FaceTime Camera is just dumb. Try holding your arm in front of your face for more than 1 minute. And it will take up a ton of space.

I don't expect battery life to change that much. Not enough to sway people one way or the other.
 
- Officially waterproof. Not excessively, but enough for people to feel comfortable swimming with it.

I think it is. Seriously, people have been talking about showering with it. There's even a YouTube video where the guy tests it out in a pool for 6 hours, diving, putting it at the bottom of the pool for a while, and everything. The thing still worked.
 
I think it is. Seriously, people have been talking about showering with it. There's even a YouTube video where the guy tests it out in a pool for 6 hours, diving, putting it at the bottom of the pool for a while, and everything. The thing still worked.

At the same time I've seen reports from people who have done so and had water intrusion. Apple needs to officially designate it waterproof. Showering with it or the occasional swim is one thing, but with active watches, people swim with them every day. It needs to be intentionally waterproof.
 
At the same time I've seen reports from people who have done so and had water intrusion. Apple needs to officially designate it waterproof. Showering with it or the occasional swim is one thing, but with active watches, people swim with them every day. It needs to be intentionally waterproof.
They'd have to reengineer the entire case so it's not held together by only glue.
 
And even if they were able to make it more waterproof (even a Rolex Sub isn't called "waterproof" anymore even though it's "water resistant" to 300 meters), should Apple figure out how to make the screen operable with wet fingers?

I don't think it'll happen. I just accept that I won't be using the touchscreen much when I'm showering or in the pool.
 
I think Apple has no chance of turning the AW into anything resembling a fitness watch until it's at least generally waterproof. You don't need to interact with the screen wet, you just need to be able to start an activity and then have it track you.
 
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I think Apple has no chance of turning the AW into anything resembling a fitness watch until it's at least generally waterproof. You don't need to interact with the screen wet, you just need to be able to start an activity and then have it track you.

I thought it did this already.
 
New watch owner. Sorry if these have been mentioned.

Better battery. I'm ok with one day life, which I get but there are too many limitations to hit that, I feel.

Let me set the time the screen sleeps.
I launch Shazam and want to read the screen without stabbing at it with my finger.

Custom watch faces which seems to be something Apple is against.

Safari. At least reader mode.

Speed.

Better 3rd party apps.

Not that much.
 
I wear my Apple Watch to swim at the Y and have since I got the watch. Not a professional swimmer at all, I just do laps and never take the watch off. I set to workout/other. Never had a problem with the watch. Maybe I am pushing my luck, I don't know, but once I saw the video of people swimming and keeping the watch under water for a long time, I decided to not hold back.
 
I couldn't wait I swam with my watch today. It seems fine. I didn't set it to workout other. I will the next time (Friday). It didn't seem to know I was exercising for part of the time which may be because my hands were freezing and blood was moving to my core. But I really loved having it with me in the water. Thanks for the inspiration.
 
New watch owner. Sorry if these have been mentioned.

Better battery. I'm ok with one day life, which I get but there are too many limitations to hit that, I feel.

Let me set the time the screen sleeps.
I launch Shazam and want to read the screen without stabbing at it with my finger.

Custom watch faces which seems to be something Apple is against.

Safari. At least reader mode.

Speed.

Better 3rd party apps.

Not that much.
I remember they used to be against custom ring tones too. I think they'll come around on the watch faces as well.
 
Why do people want to wear watches and have phones in a pool? Sounds scary.
As far as waterproof watches are concerned, I just want to see what time it is (without my glasses, I can hardly see where a clock is on the wall, never mind what time it's displaying). And, if it's waterproof enough for swimming, it's waterproof enough for anything else I'd encounter day-to-day.

Hasn't anyone here owned a water-resistant watch before?
 
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This is a big one for me. I also would like the microphone to be less sensitive. When I'm driving, if I want the watch to understand what I'm dictating into an iMessage I have to turn the AC and radio completely off.
That's interesting. If it's too quiet, the watch doesn't understand me. In a crowded room, it does. Which is awkward when you're the only one talking into your watch.
 
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