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Not running beta (running latest public release) but I don't want to start a new topic. For some reason when I get an email notification on my Watch, it always says I have 2 unread email from the sender - but this is never true, it's just the one. Any ideas on that?
 
So, I was just about to update to the os 4 beta, but what is this about the Now Playing / Music changes? I use my watch to control music on my phone all the time. I keep my phone docked and use my watch as a remote (including switching songs/playlists). Now its only allowing you to choose from the music you have synced?

I posed this question also. There doesn’t seem, as of now. A way to change the source on your Apple Watch. Instead it forces you to sync songs onto the watch, then play the music. But I don’t want to do that, I just want to control it like I do with Pandora or Spotify or something.
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Because the music app now only controls the music on your watch.

That doesn’t make sense. I have thousands of songs in my music library in Apple Music. I don’t want to have to sift through those songs to create a playlist just for the watch. I would rather just us my watch as a way of controlling my phone. To shuffle through all my music. Not just a portion of it, stored on my watch.
 
Can someone describe how the music app works when you started the workout app on the watch? Does the music screen come up automatically? If you are using AirPods can you use the dial on the watch to control the volume without having to tap anything on the watch?
 
Can someone describe how the music app works when you started the workout app on the watch? Does the music screen come up automatically? If you are using AirPods can you use the dial on the watch to control the volume without having to tap anything on the watch?

You can swipe left on the workout screen so you get to see music controls
 
Has anyone that uses Overcast podcast player been able to successfully download and play episodes from the watch on the Watch OS beta?
 
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So, some confirmation: It seems as though you can control your phone from the watch, but not browse your library from your phone like before.

Apple Watch Series 2 (watchOS 4 beta 4) + AirPods + iPhone 6s Plus (iOS 11 beta 4)

Music:
  • I start playing a song on my phone, it shows up as "Now Playing" on the watch, I hear it on the AirPods.
    • this doesn't always show the actual track playing, but I think that's because the phone doesn't always show the right information on the Music Widget / lock-screen view, an issue with the beta
  • I can also choose a playlist/track that has been synced. Choosing one of these playlists prompts me to select the AirPods.
    • The AirPods aren't always available with just the watch. They don't seem to like the beta OS on watch, phone, or tv, so sometimes autoswitching fails, but is better on the watchOS 4 Beta than OS 3
  • When I start playing music on my phone or watch, the Now Playing view shows on the watch screen automatically.
    • This is a setting, but even when turned off, "Now Playing" shows when I raise my wrist
  • When I have my AirPods connected, while playing music from my phone or watch, the Digital Crown controls volume
    • done in the Now Playing view, based on your settings, either raise your wrist or wake the screen by tapping without looking

I use Gymatic for most workout tracking (besides RunKeeper for running), mostly using the "Freeform" mode that detects the exercise and reps. I usually get music started first (siri, workout mix playlist), then launch the Gymatic Freeform workout and let them both run for a couple moments before getting started. Double-clicking the crown switched between the two apps (Music / Gymatic) because I occasionally need to confirm details on the exercise between sets and the Music apps doesn't take over on wake while working out, so adjusting volume is an extra step.
 
So, some confirmation: It seems as though you can control your phone from the watch, but not browse your library from your phone like before.

Apple Watch Series 2 (watchOS 4 beta 4) + AirPods + iPhone 6s Plus (iOS 11 beta 4)

Music:
  • I start playing a song on my phone, it shows up as "Now Playing" on the watch, I hear it on the AirPods.
    • this doesn't always show the actual track playing, but I think that's because the phone doesn't always show the right information on the Music Widget / lock-screen view, an issue with the beta
  • I can also choose a playlist/track that has been synced. Choosing one of these playlists prompts me to select the AirPods.
    • The AirPods aren't always available with just the watch. They don't seem to like the beta OS on watch, phone, or tv, so sometimes autoswitching fails, but is better on the watchOS 4 Beta than OS 3
  • When I start playing music on my phone or watch, the Now Playing view shows on the watch screen automatically.
    • This is a setting, but even when turned off, "Now Playing" shows when I raise my wrist
  • When I have my AirPods connected, while playing music from my phone or watch, the Digital Crown controls volume
    • done in the Now Playing view, based on your settings, either raise your wrist or wake the screen by tapping without looking

I use Gymatic for most workout tracking (besides RunKeeper for running), mostly using the "Freeform" mode that detects the exercise and reps. I usually get music started first (siri, workout mix playlist), then launch the Gymatic Freeform workout and let them both run for a couple moments before getting started. Double-clicking the crown switched between the two apps (Music / Gymatic) because I occasionally need to confirm details on the exercise between sets and the Music apps doesn't take over on wake while working out, so adjusting volume is an extra step.

Yeah this is how I do it. I go to my phone. Pull up Apple Music. Then control everything from my watch. But I think that defeats the purpose. The idea would be to try and eliminate from having to do the first part by doing everything from the watch.
 
The rearranged the icons on the "swipe up settings" in the latest beta
 

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Is the Siri watch face showing commute times home/work for anyone?
Mine still doesn't seem to be after updating to DP5. Additionally, Maps is no longer showing up as a data source in Siri watch face settings.
 
Is the Messages complication still showing unread message count? Mine is not. And the complication color changed from white to green.
 
The rearranged the icons on the "swipe up settings" in the latest beta
Oh well and another arragement that changed...

I was psychological programmed with the arrangement so I could swipe up and tap the right spot to mute or dnd without watching.

I was hit by another rearrangement in the alarm app. They switched the snooze and stop button in the "portrait-view" (not nightstand), so I was hitting the wrong one, nearly every morning.
 
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Is the Siri watch face showing commute times home/work for anyone?
Mine still doesn't seem to be after updating to DP5. Additionally, Maps is no longer showing up as a data source in Siri watch face settings.
I’ve been using the Siri watch face and it shows commute times to home and work for me. Commute times as in “Traffic is light. 17 mins to get to work”
 
Has anyone that uses Overcast podcast player been able to successfully download and play episodes from the watch on the Watch OS beta?

I've noticed a problem with this too. I can transfer a podcast but it stops playing as soon as the watch screen dims. As if Outcast cannot play in the background now.
 
I haven't noticed this before. Maybe the default font size is too large (haven't messed with it once).
Odd that the "..." is less space than "h "
 

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I haven't noticed this before. Maybe the default font size is too large (haven't messed with it once).
Odd that the "..." is less characters than "h "
It would seem odd, but it’s likely less than an h and the space that would follow.
 
Mine is not either and also back to green which I prefer.

Please tell me the unread messages count hasn’t been taken away. Could never understand why this was never the norm in the first place. Then read that there was an unread count in os4 , yet now it seems it’s been taken away. Hoping this is a bug , & is meant to be there.
 
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