Funny how the OP did not list a single one of your issues. Your examples matter to a tiny group of users. Love that you listed dual physical SIM as your number one item.
How many of that watch have been sold?
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Apple Watch Continues to Dominate With Estimated 1 in 3 Share of Smartwatch Sales Last Quarter
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Funny how the OP did not list a single one of your issues. Your examples matter to a tiny group of users. Love that you listed dual physical SIM as your number one item.
How many of that watch have been sold?
Obviously you didn't read the article with comprehension. He makes references to ASP in relation to stated sales number. Anyone can do the math and see that IDC numbers are made up.
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Yes, I am saying he report is wrong, read the article instead of looking at the headline and coming back with nonsense. Historically IDC has been wrong regarding Apple. Do a Google search, your Galaxy will let you do that.......
Ha almost didn't see the wink emoji!Actually, that's not possible. The Apple Watch is too bulky. It needs to be round. It's like they just shrunk the original iPhone design down. It's just another solution in search of a problem. What can it do that your smartphone can't? etc.
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I was already all apple, but the series four was what made me get the watch. I live alone and am a fall risk. The fall detection really put my mind and those of my family at ease. But now that I have it,as the saying goes I can't imagine doing without it for many reasons, none of which have to do with fall detection.
Idc is now irrelevant as well. A guess + a better guess doesn’t not equal an educated guess.
The fall detection is the reason I have recommended watches to quite a few people, and why I suggest that people get LTE capable versions even if they do not get service (calls to 911 should still work even if there is no service plan).
Funny guy.Actually, that's not possible. The Apple Watch is too bulky. It needs to be round. It's like they just shrunk the original iPhone design down. It's just another solution in search of a problem. What can it do that your smartphone can't? etc.
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Heh, its cause no one actually knows what is best.
The Vegans will show you data that proves Veg cures heart disease and Carnivores will do the same!
Im in the middle ;(
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and its integration with the iPhone and the mac are very handy.
Being able to control music,video snap pics etc all from the watch.
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says someone that doesn't own one
sucha silly post full of inaccuracy
Round is not optimal for square layouts, but there are some really unique new UI layouts on round watches that can change that. it's definitely something that requires designers to think about, rather than just throwing in a text box. But it can work out very well.
also, Ford did not invent the automobile. It dexisted before and it was desirable before. It was just costly rarity. What Ford did was provide a new means of mass production of the automobile in order to make it affordable, and enough volume to supply those who wanted a car.
now, what any of this has to do with the watch, nothing
Rethinking for round layouts is definitely one option, but it is less optimal overall due to the formal qualities of the english language. The simpler the solution, generally speaking the better, and less costly.
Your correction about my Ford statement completely misses the point I was trying to make - which was a statement about product vision not historical accuracy. Try again with comprehension this time.
Ok we need to discontinue this conversation because we are making 2 different points here. You keep going on and on about the benefits of the Apple ecosystem and how they work well with iPhones etc.
I'm trying to tell you I don't care about Apple's ecosystem, the benefits, or being tied into it. So let me make it simple.
If I buy an iPhone I want the Phone and the App Store (because without it you can't download apps), I don't care about app continuity, how well it plays with MacOS, the Apple ecosystem, or anything of that nature. If I had an Android I can totally discard Google and use Microsoft if I wanted to and it would still work just as if the phone came from Microsoft. I also don't need another company to manage my privacy (which is why I passed on Plume mesh routers and their subscription) I can handle my own and I've done very well doing it because I've never been hacked, never had any of my info on the dark web, and my identity has never been stolen. Ok, that's all!
Because dual SIM is incredibly useful in Europe. It seems Americans are satisfied being ripped off by phone companies.
How many burgers has McDonalds sold?
Apple Watch remained the world's most popular smartwatch by a significant margin last quarter, with an estimated 35.8 percent market share during the January-March period, according to Counterpoint Research. In other words, one in every three smartwatches shipped last quarter was an Apple Watch.
Samsung was a distant second with an estimated 11.1 percent market share last quarter, although that is up from 7.2 percent one year prior.
Apple Watch shipments increased 49 percent last quarter year-over-year, according to Counterpoint Research, but no specific numbers were provided. Apple has never disclosed Apple Watch sales, but its "Wearables, Home, and Accessories" category set a new March quarter revenue record of $5.1 billion.
Counterpoint Research's latest Consumer Lens survey found that ECG functionality on Series 4 models is the Apple Watch's most desirable feature. Apple recently expanded the ECG app to 19 European countries and Hong Kong.
While estimates can vary, it is clear that the Apple Watch continues to dominate the smartwatch market as it celebrates its fourth anniversary.
Article Link: Apple Watch Continues to Dominate With Estimated 1 in 3 Share of Smartwatch Sales Last Quarter
What's that watch face to the very right in the picture? I don't see it on my Apple watch?
Simple math. The analysts claim, for example, 71.9 million Samsung smartphones were sold. Samsung's own statements for their earnings call list mobile division revenues at $22.3 billion. This gives us an ASP of $310 per device. However, other reports are claiming 78 million "phones" (not "smartphones") and 5 million tablets. This gives us an ASP for the mobile division at around $268 per device.
Therefore we can conclude, with 100% certainty, that the IDC is counting ALL Samsung smartphones sold, from the $50 low-end devices up to their flagship S10. If IDC was only counting the Galaxy S9/S10 and Note 9 flagships, we would need to see mobile revenues several times higher than they are.
Huawei, by coincidence, just did their first ever quarterly earnings call (they used to do yearly, then twice yearly). They had revenues of $26.8 billion. Unfortunately, I can't find a breakdown of revenues by division so it's difficult to get an ASP figure for them. So let's take their ENTIRE revenue and apply it only to their phones. This gives us an ASP of $458.
Again, the IDC is obviously counting all Huawei devices and not just their flagships.
The issue I have with the IDC isn't their sales numbers (which are difficult to prove or disprove) - it's the fact they lump all devices together and compare them to the iPhone. It's as stupid as lumping all Toyota sales together and saying they outsell Ferrari, when the only vehicle Toyota/Lexus makes that's comparable to a Ferrari is the Lexus LFA. It's a common tactic among Android fans to try and make it appear Android is doing way better than the iPhone.
1: eSIM resolves this outside of china. 2 physical SIM's is not necessary, and check your provider if supported for eSIM and have the sim in their billing/switch systems updated. one and done.
2. Via lighting port - eLeaf and Samsung both have small components up to 512GB to expand.
- also there is cloud storage. So unless you name a workflow or something specific that is NOT resolved by online storage (accessible via Wi-Fi when u wish to save on monthly carrier data restrictions), there are options.
3. What exactly do you need access to the NFC to do? Android tap tap tap to share a contact LMAO?
- NFC in its very early inception was very prone to being intercepted and thus the security stance to NOT have this exposed to third party apps was a smart move. No end user REALLY needs NFC access that is not resolved by bluetooth (pairing with a speaker/headset). So care to explain?
4. > yes many of us are wanting and waiting for this too ... BUT how efficient would this be on it's own without:
smaller apps, the UI, to make it useful as well as direct drag and drop of objects or iterations of functions. Like your request for NFC access ... it's really useless to request this without really explaining the need/functionality of what you're really wanting to use it for ... and thinking how in current iOS UI this could be served or hampered. Think beyond the idea request, and more about what you're requesting to do .. the action.
5. This is a smartphone, and by design a VERY personal device. Why do you want different user modes/access to it? Again what is the action you're trying to accomplish? Android played with this yet is very seldomly used by majority of even pro users.
- most apps handle the need for switching accounts: FB, IG are 2 that I can think of, many others you can log out of 1 account, logon using another. What is within 1 user environment that needs to be silo'd from another and WHO will need to share your personal device?
^ I personally don't see the action or need for a potential action for this.
PS: A very close friend of mine and I use iMessage to keep in touch as I cannot always hang with him every weekend: he as 6 kids the eldest started his own family, the the other 5 are under 14. I was chatting with him and I know he lets his oldest 3rd oldest son and eldest daughter use his iPhone to play games when another is on PS4 or their restricted from those games. I didn't pickup on his 1 word or very word replies as "he" mentioned 'just hanging with the kids' after work. To me, then, he seemed down so I sent a recent article of a guy in the USA who recorded himself peeing in a sauce pot and burnt himself from the oil that splashed on him/unit. made is daughter laugh hysterically and she's usually super quite, yet intelligent. He checked and called me and said yeah my eldest daughter was using his phone, LMAO ... I'm glad the conversation didn't get any worse or graphic beyond the article link. Other than this example, cannot see the real need.
6. We have widgets ... swipe down and also down > swipe right. Some are interactive to quick needs/views. Where have you been? Come on in
7. here again ... asking for the sake of asking but where is the action to be obtained?
- I'll bet this is for USB-C right?
> You want just 1 cable to share amongst what another 2 or 3 other devices in the house?
I'll be 1 has a different charging requirement than the other. You also need to consider:
USB-C is STILL a mess on it's own:
- not ALL cables support ALL speeds of the speck (even outside of Thunderbolt 3)
- not ALL charging blocks will be compatible with all devices, many could damage the internal electrical circuitry in a quick few weeks (FastCharge, QuickCharge, SuperCharge, blah blah) all are not necessarily compatible. There is a great article on Bloomberg or Wired specifically about this!
So again ... what is the action to be enjoyed or requested vs just the request itself here? What is to be gained?
> surely this isn't to complete faster wired data transfer right? We have Wi-Fi for that!
Track record from iTunes or via OTA for firmware on iOS devices has been stellar vs bricking and needing iTunes to load an entire full OS from scratch for over 5yrs now.
I'm looking to see more of the action you're hoping to obtain on some of my replies to your requests above.
Cheers.
1. Not interested in being ripped off by the handful of companies that support eSIM thanks.
2. I enjoy having my photos, music, podcasts, and some videos available to me without having to ever think about data, storage, or dongles.
3. Android apps allow cases such as recharging of transport cards or identification using an NFC-enabled ID. You can always turn NFC off in case you're too scared of people hacking it. And more generally, just because you don't need it doesn't mean the use isn't valuable to someone else. I guess you're also someone who never uses headphone jacks, or want bluetooth for your HomePod. Fine, for you.
4. I regularly have YouTube videos in the upper third of my phone while using other apps in the lower 2/3. It's a great user experience.
5. I like my wife having access to, and use of, my phone if she needs to access something. For the same reason I prefer fingerprint over FaceID because I can register her fingerprint in addition to my own.
6. I'm not talking about swiping various directions to get access to panels I'm talking about customising your home screen so the live information you're interested in is always available at a glance.
7. My number of USB-C devices exceeds my number of lightning devices. Lightning is a bigger mess and having your iPhone simply refuse to charge when you're on a trip because the official cable suddenly "is not certified and may not work reliably" is potentially dangerous let alone hugely inconvenient.
tl;dr I don't pay Apple more money so I can compromise on my own experience. Your experience may vary.
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Yup, when you clear out all the cheap android devices, the smartphone market looks very different.
Wait what?
Point me to a cheaper better burger than McDonald's? Many are BETTER not many if any at all cheaper than $1.99 (CAN) or $0.99 US. I just don't get this analogy in comparison to US cellular providers that offer national roaming at cheap and unlimited calling costs? Roaming in Europe if you're elsewhere - simple ensure your phone is unlocked, forward your line to another EU number you're currently going to use, swap out the SIM. You know like we did LONG before LTE, and use WhatsApp for messaging (BBM used to be the bee's knees prior to LTE, or SMS). You really need Dual SIM when by your estimation not Going to use how home carriers line anyway when roaming.
Your point?
Modern solution: eSIM.
I have family in two different European countries. I have two SIMs in my phone. At all times I can be contacted on a number for either country. Data is covered under roaming so I simply top up whichever I prefer at the time (cheaper, or better network). No contracts required. No monthly fees. No activations and management of eSIMs. No reliance on a single carrier.
Explain to me how any of the mess you suggest above is as easy as this?
Nobody says IDC numbers are very accurate. But they are probably the best we can get. Let's assume that their methodology may underestimate sales. It would probably do so for all vendors which, in turn, would mean that iPhone market share would still be accurate even if the absolute sales numbers may not.
Anyways, this is the only data we have. DED has none.
This is where I don't think I can agree with you though.
the report is Smart Phone sales and market share.
The value of the individual phones is not a consideration of this report. Those who are looking at this report are looking at a holistic picture of the entire accessible market. How many users are on a platform, and therefore how wide is the potential target audience growing, shrinking, or some other combination.
saying 'but flagships only' is just moving the goal posts of what this report is meant for. I'm not saying that a report that also compares market share of flagship devices, versus others wouldn't be interesting to look at, I'd welcome it too. But, for the target audiences of reports like this, the ASP of the device is completely irrelevant. This report isn't about dollar figures. It's purely about volume.
A report like you want would be a good report if you are looking to invest, to determine pottential growth in market and who / where the larger margins / profit is to be had if you were to invest in those companies
Reports like this are intended for the ancilliary marketplace. the people who support, vendor for, develop for, etc. Do you think Logitech cares how much profit Apple makes? Or how premium the phones are? Logitech wants to know if it's worth their money to create, and support specific devices and vendors.
Both have their place
You want to come up with your own made up metrics. Go ahead, collect data and release them. Facebook on $50 smartphone runs the same way it runs on $1000 smartphone. There are many reasons to compare market shares for all smartphones. And this is what IDC does. There are also reasons (albeit not so obvious) to compare smartphones by categories. Then of course, Apple is now selling a lot of "premium" smartphones that in reality used to be premium a few years back (they keep selling old models in many countries). So one should not automatically equate iPhone with "premium" anymore. Not every iPhone is a premium phone. In fact, by some metrics (like RAM, camera count, feature availability) none of the iPhone models are premium.
Apple sells premium smartphones. If you want to move the goalposts and say a 6s in 2019 is not premium, go ahead, your opinion vs another opinion. That Facebook runs on all platforms has nothing to do with anything.
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I think you're being overly difficult vs actually investigating; but that's your prerogative. In Canada all 3 major telcos for cellular have begun supporting eSIM and there is no additional cost. Psst there is only 37-38 million Canadians across this whole country and not even half are using cellphones, I'm sure there isn't much if any cost at all in the USA/UK/EU but I'd like to see data proving my hypothesis wrong here.
2. Photos/music/podcasts/videos
- Let's really look into this as I myself usually for for 128GB or 256GB in the last 3yrs for phones, yet have done well without over 10yrs ago with feature phones.
Photos ... I'm not a camera shutterbug so for me I cannot rebuttal this need so much (I use screenshots more). I respect the need for media but if you really REALLY need access to them, it's not very likely you or anyone is looking at ALL 1000-4000 plus photos, 200+ videos, 300+ podcasts in a day/month or sharing them. If you're sharing them then categorizing them in a cloud service with email/phone number invites surely makes this more efficient than having to do this on your personal time AFTER working business hours. My estimates for numbers here are from what I've supported or seen across 200-400 employees in various companies over the last 10yrs+ supporting MDM and rolling out mobile smartphones and iPads for big corporations and doing restores for executives/directors that are maddeningly demanding and upgrading mid cycle due to damage.
> Q: How many of those photos are you looking at, sharing on your smartphone per day/week/month? I'm very curious.
Music ... I too used to love owning my music and for my favourite artists I do ... yet it gets very old and fresh music I now stream ... FM radio just doesn't cut it and I haven't' owned a traditional stereo in years: The internet has fully taken over.
3. Draw? I'm not sure I can use this experience where I live currently.
Q: what android apps are you talking about in full?
What "transport cards or identification using an NFC-enabled ID." are being replenished without using a built-in Wallet?
What digital ID is being used? I'm presenting Access Cards but I'm familiar with C-Cure and the readers usually set are not corresponding to work with NFC so this must be something very new or that I'm unaware of and want to learn more, sincerely.
> I never stated I don't NEED access to NFC, I stated what is YOUR need for requesting it vs the action you need it for; hence my original reply for clarity. You've provided that and I'm still vague because where I live I'm not seeing what you mean by Transport Cards (public transit I can assume/presume - but here in Toronto/GTA no transit system in Hamiton, Durham Region, Toronto, GO Transit, VIVA, etc uses such a system ... yet. MetroLynx has been testing internally for 9mths and has flip-flopped on whether Android / iOS will get deployed support publicly.
> I was born in the 70's so I've heavily used 3.5MM headphones in fact I've owned a Sony Walkman at age 10 probably early than you've had a portable music player of any kind. Yes I prefer bluetooth because I use public transit and I loathe having wires snagged on a jacket, other clothing or snagged from someone passing me who's bag/fingers/purse snags it an rips headphones off my head or ears. For me stereo quality headphones are great and preferred ... but they always slide off my tiny ears and my head. Until the iPhone supports 24-bit audio at more than 44khz ... having pro headphones via 3.5mm headphones is of no use as the quality of music I own or stream will never be fully pumped out at the quality I prefer. I don't like Android's OS in real world use and the way Apps are supported/not supported on various phone models anyway to fully enjoy such pro headphones. I keep trying every year/2yrs but nothing just sticks. I don't have the time to fiddle around like a kid. I keep asking and writing to Apple to boost the audio quality and hope others do.
> I don't own a HomePod. No plans on buying one; funny joke.
4. Good example.
Personally if I'm watching a video then I'm focused on the video, unless I'm just listing to music streaming or content to listen to ... I'd rather minimize in that case (auto play enabled) while I use the screen for something else since Im not directly interacting with the youtube video. Choice is great and glad you have it on Android, I'm VERY annoyed of Google changing or Apple changing our ability in iOS to play a video in youtube and minimize while having it still play. Not sure how the change occurred but it's not been back since iOS 10.
> Fully got me here.
5. iOS enabled multiple finger print since it's inception on iPhone 5 and with 6mths allowed it for FaceID, so yes your wife, my son can each logon to our smartphones respectively (I no longer have an iPhone X I'm back on 8).
It may not be a matter of trust (blocking others whom may reply on that angle, not implied by you of course), but if your wife ... or anyone else needs to check someone on any of our phones, wouldn't it be more likely they'll want access to your/mine/our own user profile anyway? Maybe a setup of a browser differs or an app or the UI in case they require that or ask, better to guide them along vs the standard setup? Just a thought.
> Draw: in my experience, different from yours I'd just hand over my phone to my GF and let her have at it. your experience requirement maybe different. [NOT necessary to answer/just curious] PS: do you use that on your Android, has there been any concern or questions about that from your significant other, even initially? Just curious as I'd think others would encounter that.
6. You WIN
- I can definitely see the need for this now that you've explained it. This has been a staple of Android since 3.1 via third parties initially then directly since 4.x I think (could be mistaken). I've seen HUGE clutter, beyond the weather/time layout we've seen since Windows Smartphone Edition/PPC-PE and S60 days. I'm not sure just how this affects battery life, but I'd rather see this more on a lock screen and even on a fully always on lock screen, similar to what Motorola implemented some 2yrs ago then left alone.
> this surely is personal taste from my perspective ... I'm a very private person when it comes to my phone so even on the lock screen alerts for Calls, SMS/iMessage, Stocks, Appointments show up with minimal information until "I" unlock it as the data is for "me, myself, and I". Maybe a good reason for your request of iOS to implement multi-user profile .. but then that would be longer to unlock, switch, and have my information displayed.
7. DRAW = We're both on the same page here!
'having your iPhone simply refuse to charge when you're on a trip because the official cable suddenly "is not certified and may not work reliably" is potentially dangerous let alone hugely inconvenient.' I've basically stated the EXACT same thing with USB-C ... not EVERY cable works with EVERY device, have the proper cable work with your device(s) is ideal vs some cheap knock off. I'm sure when you travel you carry a known working USB-C cable you own vs just going into a variety store or some cheap PC store and purchasing one. Plus you've only had USB-C for 2-3yrs now ... Lightning predates USB-C and has been around 6yrs it was needed then as 30-PIN connect was far too bulky didn't carry the power nor the data throughput we enjoy today.
Wired: https://www.wired.com/2016/10/ins-outs-usb-c-mobile-charging/
Also OCT 2016
https://blog.fosketts.net/2016/10/29/total-nightmare-usb-c-thunderbolt-3/
The Verge: https://www.theverge.com/2016/2/4/10916264/usb-c-russian-roulette-power-cords
Since this story broke out ... last year Amazon specifically started targeting and not supplying or shipping USB-C cables from vendors that had many complaints. I'm sure you're more than aware of this so it's odd to see you debate about crap lightning-cables as a normal expectation for iPhone users. Furthermore there have been several complaints - both on Android phones and MacBooks of the USB-C ports getting loose even with careful care over a shorter than 1yr time frame. I've not read much about the lightning-port having this issue as much as the cable plug part itself being loose on 3rd party cheap knock-offs.
Ultimately both our experiences and needs are VERY different and I fully respect that. I just needed to understand more of what you were asking and required. PM me about the transport cards and ID via NFC as I'd really like to learn more about that.
Looking forward to learning more and seeing different use cases as I'm sure mine will change.
PS: I'm LOVING the idea of VMWare Horizon / Horizon One to access full Windows 10/OSX/Linux powerful desktop via Samsung Dex and I WANT that in iOS world!
Apple is making a BIG BIG mistake to not making its SmartWatch compatible with Android, after SO MANY YEARS of its introduction!!!