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Apple Watch Tidbits: Charging Retail Box, Water Resistance, Calls, Offline and More

Splunger said:
Marc Newson designed this watch. He was sitting next to Jony today.
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He wasn't hired until recently though. Jony didn't design this himself anyway. He has a team of designers that work with the engineers themselves to get the best design.
 
Solomani said:
I'm no fan of Google Glass…. but IMHO, even SmartGlasses have potential in the future.

Imagine that 15 years from now, all the tech companies from Microsoft and Google to Apple and Amazon all have smart glasses. But they are way way way way way advanced than the original Google Glass. Just imagine, and dream that Apple will then be selling an "Apple iSight" ….. which is wearable customizable contact lens! It can provide you with HUD like interface, optical-zooming telescopic sight, like a bionic eye. It even has the feature to give you Infrared or night vision on demand. And of course it can do everything that Google Glass 2014 can already do. Apple iSight can give you colored brown eyes, blue eyes, red eyes for Halloween if you wish. It's all that and more. Plus it's prescription strength for those who did not have 20/20 vision to begin with.

I see potential in these wearable smart-devices. Try to keep an open mind. They have to start from scratch, and they will all have rough starts.
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They only have potential when the price is right, thats the only thing that stops GoogleGlass from going mainstream.
 
Apple Watch Tidbits: Charging Retail Box, Water Resistance, Calls, Offline an...

ksuyen said:
You do not need to press the screen to activate the display :rolleyes:



You wake the display with a simple raise of the wrist.
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If that feature works anything like it does on other smartwatches, it won't be as simple as you think. (You basically need to jerk up your wrist violently to be detected)
 
Mtmspa said:
So can I use it as an actual watch without having a iPhone with me?
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Don't know until Apple releases them to reviewers prior to the launch date. I assume you'd only need the phone near you to receive calls and transfer data such as notifications. But I would assume you wouldn't need it if you were to go on a run.
 
ksuyen said:
You do not need to press the screen to activate the display :rolleyes:

You wake the display with a simple raise of the wrist.
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So I was misled and needlessly annoyed by the demo during which the thing kept going to sleep.

So how does this work? I am always raising my wrist. I move around a lot. What happens to my battery life?
 
Mr. Buzzcut said:
The static pressure of being under water 10M is less than what is experienced when in motion, especially powering your arms through water while swimming, even at the surface.
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That is actually a myth. You can only increase pressure on the watch by 1%-2% max by moving your arms in water. See here: http://forums.watchuseek.com/f281/water-resistance-myth-vs-reality-239664.html

That being said, it still takes a 100M water resistant watch to fully satisfy swimming conditions.
 
afsnyder said:
He wasn't hired until recently though. Jony didn't design this himself anyway. He has a team of designers that work with the engineers themselves to get the best design.
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I believe Newson has been working with the design team for some time. It was most likely a contract/freelance type of thing. Due to the secrecy of Apple they would not have made that information public since he is known for watch design - among many other things. They made the recent announcement to reveal a more permanent ongoing relationship.
 
Mr. Buzzcut said:
So I was misled and needlessly annoyed by the demo during which the thing kept going to sleep.

So how does this work? I am always raising my wrist. I move around a lot. What happens to my battery life?
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I suppose the way it works similar to Siri raise to activate, but it will be more specific on a certain angle ranges for example (such as rotating ur wrist so the face is facing you as oppose to moving your hand around when walking.) And also I suspect the default face clock will consume significantly less power than other apps.
 
Splunger said:
I believe Newson has been working with the design team for some time. It was most likely a contract/freelance type of thing. Due to the secrecy of Apple they would not have made that information public since he is known for watch design - among many other things. They made the recent announcement to reveal a more permanent ongoing relationship.
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The Apple Watch does slightly resemble the Ikepod Manatee, which is a high end watch that Newson designed:

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Mr. Buzzcut said:
So I was misled and needlessly annoyed by the demo during which the thing kept going to sleep.

So how does this work? I am always raising my wrist. I move around a lot. What happens to my battery life?
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It would be nice if the Watch offered us some kind of "Motion Preferences" or "Gesture Preferences" huh? After all, it has an advanced motion sensor, more advanced than what we've seen in prior iPhones perhaps.
 
afsnyder said:
You don't plug it in. You put the connector near the back of the watch and it snaps into place with magnets.
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so where does the power come from ? it must come from an A/C outlet yes?

Besides, it doesn't matter if it plugs in or sap in like the Megasafe,, its must still be psychically attached to something when charging, basically which means while its charging its not "wearable" since u cannot move away from one location.

Today's non-smart watches you do not plug/snap them in.. u don't need to....

I wouldn't mind if u could go on a full change with a Apple smart watch for longer than a week without a single charge... but i expect it will be far less.
 
gugy said:
hahaha true.
But water resistant will not suffice for swimming. It's too bad. I was looking for this device to use on my pool doing laps and on the ocean swimming. I would love to track these activities.
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Hi. Just for feedback on your request to track swimming.
Take a look at Garmin's fitness GPS's.
For example, Fitness / Swimming, 910XT
Another watch, the Fenix, has Smart Notification that lets you receive emails, texts and alerts right on your watch

Both have a rating of 5 ATM, and they consider this good for swimming.
 
Mr. Gates said:
Here is the REAL question nobody is asking.

How much for the bands ? You know they are sold separate.

So the crappy lil' "Sport" watch that nobody wants is $350 and the real one (Midrange) is about $500

Plus a nice band , maybe $100

I think this little turd of a watch is going to be about $600 just to get one that doesn't look like total crap

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PLUS ! ! ! ....You still need to carry your phone when you go for a run ...Fail
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I feel like the $350 model is the Apple Watch and the Apple Watch Sport is going to be the mid-range. In the announcement they specifically said "Apple Watch starting at $349" and all of the materials have them positioned as Apple Watch | Apple Watch Sport | Apple Watch Edition. Plus I'm curious as they said the Apple watch required an iPhone but they could have been referring to the base model or the generic product, there is still a lot that is unknown at this point to condemn or laud it just yet.
 
looks nice actually, feature wise not bad it can only get better, was hoping for more sensors though! hope it takes off because it seems really fun when u can use it with friends!
 
euphemus said:
:apple:Watch shows what happens when Jony is allowed to run wild. It looks beautiful but is fundamentally flawed:

  1. Premium watches retain their value well. My 10 year-old Rolex is worth ~50% of it's new retail value. A 10 year-old Apple Watch will be close to worthless.
  2. The digital crown is simply not a pleasing interface. A touch-sensitive side panel would have been better.
  3. Daily re-charging is a turn-off for many people.
  4. iPhone dependency is crippling.
  5. Taking the watch off for swimming and showering when it is being touted as a sports/health device is ludicrous.
  6. No single, killer feature.

Doubtless a pretty watch, but essentially, in this iteration, Apple hasn't dealt with any of the issues that plague other smart watches. IMHO, it will be 3-5 years before this segment has anything like the impact of iPhone or iPad. Jony's time would have been better spent on Apple TV and/or home automation/integration.
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This is the problem with armchair designers. We don't know what the constraints or the design goal was of the Apple watch.
  • Do you really expect electronics to hold their value? A car is worth much more than your Rolex, but loses more than half its value over a few years. A product with utility is different than one made to hold value. People buying the Apple Watch probably aren't looking for a keepsake.
  • I think the digital crown adds a needed physical aspect to the watch. Have you tried an iPod nano and pinch to zoom? It is awkward because of the limited screen size. Plus, the crown doubles as a home button. If there were a touch sensitive strip, we would be asking why didn't they just leave it out and use the touch screen? The iPod nano's holding of the centre of the screen to go back home was not very intuitive. Also, that gesture is now used for "forced touch".
  • We do not know battery specs though it would probably be around a day judging from other smart watches.
  • There are many functions possible without iPhone. I do wonder if GPS will work without the iPhone though. It would be pointless to have a fitness band if you need your (large) iPhone in your pocket.
  • You are right. There are multiple killer features :p. Killer feature is Apple's execution. Solid strap switching on the fly, auto-aligning Magsafe charger, and Taptic feedback is quite the technology to fit in such a small package, especially the smaller version of the watch. If we had one killer feature that was a killer feature for everyone, Apple is a failed company.
 
Really disappointed

I am really disappointed in this- way below expectation:

1 only works with iPhone 5 and above.

2 what's happened to all these rumoured sensors? Nothing but heart beat.

3 no GPS- as a fitness watch, I don't want to carry my iPhone when running.

4 the wireless charging is anything but- clip a wire to the back.

5 now not even waterproof?

Amazed to say it, but it is simply not good enough Jony.
 
nope

I've been talking to everyone I know since mid 2012 about the possibility of Apple releasing a cool smart watch that would change something. Now I feel like an idiot. The watch has no killer feature. Been an iPhone user since 2009 and I find it's the most ultimate EDC multitool. But if I have an iPhone on me, what do I need this watch for?

To draw and send a sloppy ********** smiley face to someone? No

Talk to my wrist? Nope

Advertise on 6th street that I'm a good candidate for mugging? No thanks

Remember to charge both my phone AND watch before going to bed? Hassle

Get a 3rd type of charging cable in my recharge rotation? Sucks

Figuring out how to grab my soda and Apple pay in the same reach at the McDonalds drive-thru?

Buy Apple branded "leather" to later find it's cheap and no good? Been there, done that.

On the fly decide I would like showtimes to a movie because I'm cool and spontaneously attend block busters and my time is too precious to pull out my phone.

Show off my Christmas card photos by holding my wrist a foot from someone's face?

Worse is imagine trying to zoom in on an off center photo from the grid. It'll sure be a skill to scroll the digital crown and swipe the screen when you only have one free hand to choose that photo.

I wanted the watch to be as slim and water resistant as a Casio F-91W and JUST track health information and maybe two more simple features with a battery that last a week and cost 200 dollars. I wouldn't buy this watch for 200 even though it does more, it doesn't do anything awesome. For 350 dollars, people, save your money and find another toy.


I'm glad today's presentation went the way it did as it really forced me to think if a smart watch is something I could benefit from using, and my thinking has turned 180 degrees.
 
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If you need to raise you wrist to wake it up from sleep, there there the problem lies.

If your moving anyway, but not wanting to use heath stuff at the time, u'd be using battery life unneeded anyway.

Water resistant on a jewelery watch may be good, but hasn't anyone used a suba diving watch ?

Apple reckons that people don't need to swim with a watch on... How dare Apple tell us what we have to do *insulted*
 
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