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I'm surprised they don't offer a platinum edition. Gold may be popular elsewhere, but amongst my circle of 30 something friends, it's considered tacky.

That's why you have the choice of stainless steel and aluminum. Fun fact, the gold iPhone was the hardest one to find shortly after the iPhone 5s launch. A lot of folks love their gold I guess.
 
so $349 for the most basic model.

The gold model is going to be scary $$$$. Problem is, it will depreciate very fast as apple launches a new model annually .

Not sure why people want a water proof watch. Most models are water resistant. This is not a diving watch.

Here's good reason why some people would want a watch that you can swim with.

I have a Bluetooth speaker outside that I use while swimming in my pool. Well it would be nice to be able to change the stations or music while in the pool. To me this would be a hot feature.
 
A sports watch you can't swim in?

Rolex datejust, explorer, gmt, explorer 2, mil gauss, yaughtmaster. Omega aqua terra etc etc. All are sports/tool watches (not dive). You can swim in all of them - it's one less thing to worry about.
 
So you say Jony didn't say that? Source? Is there someone that said it wasn't true?

I suppose you call out everyone here that discusses rumors since it's not straight from the mouth of the source.

Didn't mean to insult your hero.

I don't worship Jon. And I'm just saying a rumour is exactly that, a rumour. Just cause a rumour claims something did or didn't happen, it does not mean the rumour is right or wrong. Only when it's officially (in our case by Apple itself) confirmed or denied then we know for sure.
 
I really can't see the sport edition going very far as the watch relies in the phones GPS for speed/distance. There's no way a runner is going to have a phone flapping on their leg.

The watch is a very good idea and can see it paying dividends in phone-restrictive places like meetings. But I believe that small of real estate will become old at some point and more use of the bigger phones will still be the primary use.
 
They only have potential when the price is right, thats the only thing that stops GoogleGlass from going mainstream.

The biggest potential is in business, fantastic in medicine in particular, rather than for the public, though it will trickle to the public too of course.
 
I think I was hoping for more and certainly more originality.
What are you talking about? The watch has an entirely new interface and certainly pushes forward what is done for consumer electronics density wise. Like a book you have to consider the content of an iWatch before saying there is no originality in the device.
Can't help but think that Steve would have hated that crown.
It's not within the Ive/Jobs "less is more" philosophy.
You can go to hell with your whining about what Steve would have done. Frankly it is getting old and totally dismisses all the failures Steve had over the years. Get with it and join the human race.
Why not a round face with a round LCD, that would be a greater challenge but more aesthetically pleasing.
Largely opinion and more so the UI could easily support such a display if they wanted. The reality is round watches don't look any better than the alternatives, the only thing they support well is the rotation of the hands.
Drop the crown and instead use the chassis by stroking the rim either clockwise or counter clockwise. That would have harkened back to the iPod.
This is stressing over nothing. Apple has a platform now, from here they can do the I/O anyway they want.
Oh well, only time will tell....
The hardware can change in time, it's always been about the software which is what killed Nokia as they didn't have it or get it.

So why are you dissing the iwatch for everything but the software.
 
i don't get the part where you make calls...
ok it has a microphone, you talk and then..?? it just doesn't make sense.
the "find my phone" feature is nice, but how wide is the bluetooth range? (i assume they communicate through bluetooth)
 
They're probably being conservative with the water resistance/proof rating. I'd imagine as soon as these come out people will push them to the limits and we'll see what the real limits are.

Or they have a microphone in the device that can't handle being submersed in water.
 
This is the crap they come out with when steve is not around....

If I remembered correctly 90% of the people here were calling smart watches useless and a gimmicky toy.

All of a sudden, they want one now? :p

Oh, and phone with a screen larger than 3.5-4" was way too big to be a phone. But wait... They want one now

And a phone with a stupid heart monitor gimmick is stupid. What's the point of that? But wait.... hahaha
 
Thats ridiculous. Production for these types of products is well calculated for, you simply dont change a battery type/capacity/or any of the components at last minute. It simply doesn't happen especially for a large company like Apple. Software fixes maybe, but thats not related to the hardware that they announced.

The fact that they are launching them after the new year is likely because:
1. The iPhone is a priority for the holiday season (their best selling product as well)
2. There are numerous models of the iWatch, with numerous bands and other components. If they made only one model like Samsung then id say they would be releasing it along the iPhone
3. They have to remodel their stores accordingly to present the iWatch right.
4. The smaller the device the harder it is to manufacturer the components - everything is smaller and more complex. It also takes longer to assemble the watch unlike an iPhone or an iPad.

The main reason is that they didn't want leaks and it takes a while for the modified IOS to be finalized (probably in early beta now) and have develloppers start creating apps for it. There may be some tweeks to the hardware in the next month or two, but after that this thing will be production for a launch in february or march.
 
Don't know if this has been answered but how is the Watch supposed to work with Pay if there is no TouchID on the Watch?
 
The watch already has Bluetooth and NFC in it. What it lacks is a data connection. Adding that would be problematic for both size and battery life.

It has a data connection, but only low power blue tooth, no cellular or Wifi (because as you say it would kill the battery); same reason why they don't have a GPS. In theory, you could pair it with any internet connected device and access the internet that way. Not sure Apple would allow that :).
 
Remember, this is a first generation device. Compare

- iPod 2001 with iPod Mini 2004
- iPhone 2007 with iPhone 4 2010
- iPad 2010 with iPad Mini 2013

Huge difference. By 2017 Apple will have a thinner watch, 25 m water-resistant, with camera and built in 3G/4G (no need for an iPhone). At that time NFC payments will be widespread. Going forward expect things to turn around, electronics will revolve around the watch - not the phone. The watch will drive glasses and displays that you can carry with you.
 
I could buy an :apple:Watch if it worked standalone. It would be my first iDevice. I like the hypochondriac sensors and would be really nice collecting health statistics. But since it doesn't work with Android/Macs/Wi-Fi (standalone), I'll probably buy something else in the future.
 
[*]Premium watches retain their value well. My 10 year-old Rolex is worth ~50% of it's new retail value. A 10 year-old Apple Watch will be close to worthless.

Well I'd hope so, since your Rolex is 10-20x the cost of even a generous guess as to the gold WATCH EDITION. The Apple Watch is "premium", but not high-end luxury like your Rolex. I would expect a 4-5 year useful lifespan of the Apple Watch's tech.

[*]The digital crown is simply not a pleasing interface. A touch-sensitive side panel would have been better.

And this is based on...your personal experience with the WATCH?

[*]Daily re-charging is a turn-off for many people.

Apple has made no statements about battery life, and they have several months before they will ship it. Still, even the rumored battery life of 2-3 days is far far better than the 12 hour battery life of the Moto 360.

[*]iPhone dependency is crippling.

In real-world use? Or just as your bullet point? The only dependencies it seems to have are things which require cellular access. Which is totally reasonable. Things like Apple Pay still work without an iPhone.

[*]Taking the watch off for swimming and showering when it is being touted as a sports/health device is ludicrous.

Do you take your Nike+ or Fitbit or iPod into the shower after you work out or run? I will concede that being waterproof is a feature the Sport version of the watch would be good to have, but then it should also have high shock absorption. Those are both niche needs though, and perhaps we'll see those features in future iterations.
 
I agree there wasn't anything spectacular about this that immediately sets it apart from other offerings currently on the market.

Maybe the only thing they really nailed was the "fashion sense" of the watch, but even then, that is subjective.

I will be fair and hold my final judgment until it is released and I can test it for myself.
 
The Macintosh, The iPhone etc were all jaw dropping when they were shown to the world. With features never seen or even thought of before they were truly groundbreaking.


This watch is actually a piece of **** me too product that really doesn't differentiate itself from any of the other products out there. Where is the killer feature??? What is groundbreaking about this? Why should anyone even give a **** about a glorified pedometer.

I am so disappointed. I was really looking forward to this watch showing the competition how a wearable is supposed to be done.


Cant believe i woke up at 3am to watch this crap.
 
The Macintosh, The iPhone etc were all jaw dropping when they were shown to the world. With features never seen or even thought of before they were truly groundbreaking.


This watch is actually a piece of **** me too product that really doesn't differentiate itself from any of the other products out there. Where is the killer feature???

People said the exact same thing when the iPad was announced. Here are some quotes from the archive

""disappointment ….. Bigger fail than macbook air and apple tv combined... all those years of waiting and all the hype...."

"The Mac Tablet that years we were waiting for, is a giant (not iPhone! it does not call) iPod."

"Revolutionary iPad=where is revolution? where is reinvention?"

"A big iPod Touch. Thanks Apple, Crap!"
 
i bet Jennifer Lawrence can't wait for the new activity and GPS tracking data to be stored in her iCloud account, as well as the ability to have all of her credit card information backed up and stored in her iCloud account as well

:apple: Think Again :apple:
I bet Jennifer Lawrence will now use two-step verification, as well as many other celebrities.
 
As stated elsewhere I wasn't really that interested in a smart watch from Apple, or anyone else, as I have a small collection of mid-to-high end watches from the established Swiss watchmakers.

However, as I watched the live stream I immediately changed my mind and thought, "I'd love one of those." I think the design is very striking and quite beautiful - a proper jewellery-level design - albeit not in the "round" form-factor but reminiscent of the Bell & Ross, Richard Mille and even some Baume & Mercier styles. The idea of easily interchangeable straps appeals, and the functionality is more than enough for me. Being honest, apart from telling me the time and day/date all my other watches do very little else anyway:)

Then came my proper reading of the drawbacks - the need to charge it daily and the inability to swim/shower with it (or, more accurately, my own inability to remember to take it off before swimming/showering:) - who needs to text from the shower?). So, having been an immediate and unexpected convert, I'll now wait to see if Apple can manage to resolve these issues in future models.

It's a real pity that these two areas, very significant for me and I suspect a lot of others too, let down what could otherwise have been a very alluring product which could possibly have attracted those who'd happily buy low-to-mid range "luxury" watches.
 
All one has to do is look at how far we have come with iPhone and other iOS devices. The thing is for a rev one device this watch is pretty incredible. I see a lot of people knocking it for no reason in this forum but looking at it objectively there is a lot of great technology in the device. I would imagine the next rev will be running on 14 nm technology which would likely dramatically improve the watches run time.

Come to think of it, Apple might be waiting to see if TSMC can deliver 14nm tech at the beginning of the year. It is most interesting that very little technical info was delivered with respect to the watches internals.

To me it looks quite bulky. It reminds me a lot of the original iPhone. A delivery mechanism for a vision but rough around the edges (metaphorically).

I bet the second version of the watch will be a lot thinner and generally sleeker. I also bet that dial on the side (er "crown") will get swapped out entirely for a vertical capacitive touch sensor.
Possibly but you can't really judge the crown until you have used it for awhile. I'm not sure why people are obsessing over the crown when watches have had similar devices for centuries. Hell there are mechanical watches surrounded by buttons.
Overall the design says to me, this is generation one. We couldn't do everything we wanted because the technology isn't mature enough yet. But forthcoming versions over the next few years will fix all that.
I think that is one thing people are missing, Apple can only go uphill from here. The difference this time around is that Apple watch is by far further along than the first iPhone was.
For me I think I'll give the 1st generation watch a miss. I can wait another 12-18 months for gen 2.
 
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