Apple Will Not Release First Weekend Sales Numbers for iPhone 7 Due to Demand Outweighing Supply

[Chupa Chupa]

Lack of demand? Pretty sure you'll find out immediately when preorders start that they're sold out.

A "sell out" is a meaningless term unless one knows how many units were available to be sold out. If company X makes 1,000 units and sells out big deal. For example the first Zune was tough to find when released. What's a Zune? Exactly.

Now Apple says for the first time ever it won't announce 1st weekend sales #s. Not hard to figure out why. Stop drinking the Kool Aid.

 

[2010mini]

Because everyone else has bought S7's already.

So sad for those folks

 

[ilikewhey]

here is something i noticed, most of the iphone 6 and 6s price on ebay just shot up! wonder why.

 

[Nr123*123]

Honestly, some people on here are so gullible. You actually believe they'e not going to release the numbers because "supply will outstrip demand" and "we can't count now because we have too many avenues".

Do you realistically think a multinational corporation doesn't have a vice like grip on its numbers? Of course they know how many they're going to sell, they just don't want to reveal it. Why? Because they are well aware that this is a stepping year and are anticipating low demand.

Wall street is not impressed. Apple shares down 2.5%.

 

[Iconoclysm]

The reason they're giving is the same condition that has existed every year since the iPhone was invented, so I don't believe it.

I guess they're trying to control the press, but in my opinion, it's better to just be honest. Sales might not be as good this year.

Each year up until now they've been able to produce more and more phones. We already heard rumors that supply will be shorter this year due to reasons outside of their control. So, when they supply less, and 10 million aren't sold because only 8 million were made we will have headlines that say iPhone 7 flops...just like you're trying to say already...

 

[Brookzy]

They could always say how many orders they have gotten and that they are working as hard as possible to meet demand. The story is that they knew demand was going to be down, possibly to where even total orders are below the amount sold last year and they dropped their manufacturing accordingly. The marketing of the phone being so in demand that they can't keep up with manufacturing is worth more to them than the couple sales that they lose because people have to wait.

You can't collect the data that accurately and that fast. When the majority of orders were from apple.com and a few big carriers, it worked. But now there are hundreds of carriers around the world. Especially in China and India, where there will be huge numbers of cash sales, the sales numbers just can't be collated that quickly. And when you're moving into markets with predominantly in-store sales, the numbers are again not reflective of true sales because you're beholden to the in-store stock at the particular instant a customer wants to buy.

 

[talkybear]

If 99% of the people on a Apple fan website want to see Apple burn, there must be a reason that Apple needs to think about.

99% of the people who use this forum want to see Apple burn.

 

[Merkyworks]

The development of the iPhone 7/7+ seems like it went longer than planned and then rushed into manufacturing. I say that is why they are not releasing first weekend sales numbers, they simply don't have the supply to meet the demand.

Although the new camera looks really cool.

Case in point, the 7+ new dual camera has doesn't even have the software fully developed for it yet. Notice they say the Depth-of-field effect is Coming Soon. They using this as a selling point feature and yet they can't even give a date for when this feature will be available, really!?

 

[MLVC]

If 99% of the people on a Apple fan website want to see Apple burn, there must be a reason that Apple needs to think about.

Oh this isn't an Apple fan website (anymore), it's infected by trolls.

 

[BootsWalking]

here is something i noticed, most of the iphone 6 and 6s price on ebay just shot up! wonder why.

I don't expect that to last. All new iPhones got an effective price cut of $100 because the base capacity was doubled to 32GB, including for the 6s/6s+. This is because everyone who would have bought the 64GB model specifically because 16GB is too small will get the 32GB model instead, which is $100 cheaper than the previous 64GB model. This will cause a negative resale value adjustment for existing 6s/6s+ owners. Incidentally it's also going to lower Apple's ASPs going forward.

 

[Hank Carter]

Good thing they have a robust, diverse and cutting edge product line to fall back on if iPhone sales are not as expected. Sales of the new Macbook Pro, iMac and Mac Pro machines will buffer a dip in mobile sales as the Mac continues to gain marketshare. / snark

 

[Nr123*123]

You can't collect the data that accurately and that fast. When the majority of orders were from apple.com and a few big carriers, it worked. But now there are hundreds of carriers around the world. Especially in China and India, where there will be huge numbers of cash sales, the sales numbers just can't be collated that quickly. And when you're moving into markets with predominantly in-store sales, the numbers are again not reflective of true sales because you're beholden to the in-store stock at the particular instant a customer wants to buy.

You need to learn about business supply chains. In very basic terms, how the hell do you think Apple will do their accounting if they don't know how many they sell. They have a financial obligation to investors to count accurately their sales.

 

[Iconoclysm]

A "sell out" is a meaningless term unless one knows how many units were available to be sold out. If company X makes 1,000 units and sells out big deal. For example the first Zune was tough to find when released. What's a Zune? Exactly.

Now Apple says for the first time ever it won't announce 1st weekend sales #s. Not hard to figure out why. Stop drinking the Kool Aid.

Ridiculous logic that you think pure facts=drinking kool-aid. I don't even think this phone is exciting in any way... iPhone 6 sold 10 million in a weekend. That was sold out. But we know that it could have sold many more...so what is the point, exactly? If this phone sells out, you know it was as many as Apple could produce. You'll still be able to compare quarterly numbers but the obvious and logical answer to this is that Apple will not be able to produce as many phones opening weekend.

I can't believe the conclusions some of you come to when the answer is staring you in the face. It's absurd.

 

[Rob198612]

More reason to be up tonight to order gonna be a long night for me

 

[Iconoclysm]

Honestly, some people on here are so gullible. You actually believe they'e not going to release the numbers because "supply will outstrip demand" and "we can't count now because we have too many avenues".

Do you realistically think a multinational corporation doesn't have a vice like grip on its numbers? Of course they know how many they're going to sell, they just don't want to reveal it. Why? Because they are well aware that this is a stepping year and are anticipating low demand.

Wall street is not impressed. Apple shares down 2.5%.

If this phone sells out...doesn't that mean that the demand was too high? Will that immediately make you wrong? lol, like Wall Street's impression of this can't mean many, many more things. Including they're prediction that there will not be a stock price jump in 2 weeks due to huge headlines that say "10 million iphones sold in one weekend". I'm not impressed.

 

[OC40]

99% of people on this forum are Apple customers so I don't think they want to see Apple burn - but many might want to see Apple punished for making business decisions that work against the interest of their customers, like removing a headphone jack or failing to innovate to the level they want. And not punished for punishment sake but to help steer Apple in a better direction for the future.

Why is there an issue with removing the headphone jack? The headphone jack has been around for decades. It's time for new tech.

 

[Nr123*123]

If this phone sells out...doesn't that mean that the demand was too high? Will that immediately make you wrong?

Demand was too high if you artificially limit supply, yes. If I have two phones and two people come to buy them = Sold Out...or....I couldn't count because I have too many avenues.

 

[OC40]

Honestly, some people on here are so gullible. You actually believe they'e not going to release the numbers because "supply will outstrip demand" and "we can't count now because we have too many avenues".

Do you realistically think a multinational corporation doesn't have a vice like grip on its numbers? Of course they know how many they're going to sell, they just don't want to reveal it. Why? Because they are well aware that this is a stepping year and are anticipating low demand.

Wall street is not impressed. Apple shares down 2.5%.

Apple shares always fall after it announces a new phone.

 

[Iconoclysm]

You need to learn about business supply chains. In very basic terms, how the hell do you think Apple will do their accounting if they don't know how many they sell. They have a financial obligation to investors to count accurately their sales.

Business supply chains cannot make up for numbers like iPhone sales on an opening weekend. Nothing any experience other than selling iPhones can possibly compare. No other product is manufactured at this scale, this quickly.
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Demand was too high if you artificially limit supply, yes. If I have two phones and two people come to buy them = Sold Out...or....I couldn't count because I have too many avenues.

Calling selling more than any consumer electronics product in history on its opening weekend an artificially limited supply is, to be blunt, naive.

 

[navaira]

Apple shares always fall after it announces a new phone.

I was actually expecting that the shares would go up for the first time, since the 7 is less impressive (to me personally) than previous models and Wall Street seems to have opposite days every time Apple have an event. So I assume that dropping stock price means iPhone 7 will sell better than 6 and 6s combined.

 

[BootsWalking]

Why is there an issue with removing the headphone jack? The headphone jack has been around for decades. It's time for new tech.

Lots of things have been around for decades. Age is not necessarily correlative to utility, function, or fitness of purpose. Regardless of the objective pros/cons of removing the jack, I think Apple made a strategic mistake in doing so. They should have held off until next year's model, which if rumors are true will have so many innovations that people would have lined up to buy it in spite of not having the jack. As it stands, the 7/7+ was already a tough sell due to the limited perceived improvements vs the 6/6+ - removing the jack just gave existing customers another reason to defer their purchases by another year.

 

[Karma*Police]

Thank goodness you went to such lengths to let us know how disinterested you are!

I wouldn't characterize it as disinterested. He's actually HAPPY to be skipping an upgrade. The Internet is filled with all kinds of strange people... I think they're sometimes known as trolls lol

 

[Iconoclysm]

If 99% of the people on a Apple fan website want to see Apple burn, there must be a reason that Apple needs to think about.

Pretty sure the problem is that Apple fan websites are filled with angry Android fans.

 

[Nr123*123]

Business supply chains cannot make up for numbers like iPhone sales on an opening weekend. Nothing any experience other than selling iPhones can possibly compare. No other product is manufactured at this scale, this quickly.

Oh dear. Why then, could they count sales for the iPhone 6 and 6S? Demand for this phone will be weaker, as evidenced by the low production volumes.

Bottom line is that Apple don't want "iPhone sales drop year to date" - which they have done for the last quarter or more. But hey, you keep lining the pockets of tax evaders....

 

[bladerunner2000]

Nobody is going to want to buy that piece of garbage, so the sales are going to tank. The lack of a headphone jack has already made me to buy a Nexus 6p and there will be many other people who will be looking at alternatives.

What the hell was Apple thinking by removing it? Is the whole company full of incompetent morons?