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Apple Will Not Release First Weekend Sales Numbers for iPhone 7 Due to Demand Outweighing Supply

Iconoclysm said:
Right, has nothing to do with people tied into your ecosystem with thousands of dollars dumped into apps you'd need to repurchase if you leave. It's ALL apologists. I guess that's why they sell as many Macs as iPhones too....or wai?
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LOL, nothing you post is factual, you've been called out on this by other members here as well. Mods should really just delete your comments.

Can you post something that isn't an assumption, opinion or the apologetic stance that defends Apple at any cost?
 
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I'm not sure why this is surprising to anyone. No one else consistently releases launch sales figures (heck Microsoft has never released any sales figures for the Surface product line). Now that iPhone YOY sales increases are pretty much non-existent there's no point in releasing this figure as it has no wow factor.
 
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BootsWalking said:
99% of people on this forum are Apple customers so I don't think they want to see Apple burn - but many might want to see Apple punished for making business decisions that work against the interest of their customers, like removing a headphone jack or failing to innovate to the level they want. And not punished for punishment sake but to help steer Apple in a better direction for the future.
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Amen!
 
Nr123*123 said:
Let's be cordial. I used to love Apple, but honestly nothing "wow" has come out of Apple for years. They're simply following the road map Steve Jobs laid out. Now that the road map is ending, they're just copying other companies and rehashing old designs.

Fair enough, the smartphone market has stagnated significantly, but iPhones still lack basic upgrades for a smartphone, an OLED screen, curved glass, proper construction of the camera module into the body.

If I don't like the way a company does business, then why would I not take a stance? They don't pay enough taxes, so I choose to no longer buy their products for this reason and others.

Oh and the price in the UK is £600. For a phone. They know who'll buy it, it's not people who like innovation or technology, it's people who like fashion.
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Not disagreeing with you. However, they still make better quality products with better customer service than the competition and those companies aren't exactly wowing me either. At this point, smartphones are a commodity, a given. You're on the platform you're on, probably not going to change.

They don't pay enough taxes but neither does any other company and Apple are one of the least guilty. Your price in the UK has to do with VAT and exchange rates. They're still the same cost in the US. Oh, I love innovation, technology, design, and build quality. It's more embarrassing than anything else to carry an iPhone for me, or to wear my Apple Watch. Why is that? Because of people like you who are concerned more about the outward appearance than I am. Hypocritical and ironic, I know.
 
Rogifan said:
I'm not sure why this is surprising to anyone. No one else consistently releases launch sales figures (heck Microsoft has never released any sales figures for the Surface product line). Now that iPhone YOY sales increases are pretty much non-existent there's no point in releasing this figure as it has no wow factor.
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It's because Apple's always done to brag about how 'well' they're doing. Now that they're back-pedalling says a lot... its not looking good.
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BootsWalking said:
99% of people on this forum are Apple customers so I don't think they want to see Apple burn - but many might want to see Apple punished for making business decisions that work against the interest of their customers, like removing a headphone jack or failing to innovate to the level they want. And not punished for punishment sake but to help steer Apple in a better direction for the future.
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They should be punished for not paying their share in taxes.
 
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spiderman0616 said:
Apple: Launch weekend numbers are not useful anymore, always get spun as negative, and are always limited by supply no matter what that supply number is. Therefore we're just not going to bother reporting it anymore.

MacRumors forum trolls: This phone is a flop.

God I hate this site sometimes.
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and apple love you for believing whatever bs they tell u :)
 
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I think they're realizing that the numbers will be less then prior rollouts and they may as well stop the practice as it will only highlight the idea that the iPhone is at saturation
 
Apple Corps said:
AAPL is down $2.50 this morning - Wall Street / investors are not impressed with what they saw yesterday.
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It really needs to drop a lot more for the morons at Apple to get the message;

Don't fix something that isn't broken and don't LIE about the reason. Can't waterproof a headphone jack? Tell that to Samsung and Sony who've done it for years.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
That's rich when your previous response to me had zero facts and 100% personal opinion. I was the one that gave you the fact that "product sold out" is an empty term unless factual production numbers are attached to it. I'm saying you are drinking Kool-Aid precisely because you are ignoring the FACT that there is no guidance on the initial numbers of iPhones available for sale at launch and just calling the phone a huge sales hit anyway.

Now that Apple is playing "hide the ball" with initial weekend sales numbers for the first time ever for iPhones though I one can infer iPhone 7 sales numbers will not match thouse of the 6. Apple loves to crow when there is good news and hide when it's less than steller. Apple is putting out so much balloney info with the 7 it should open up a deli.

Personally I'm holding onto my 6 for now. The 7 is not a compelling upgrade w/ lack of headphone jack (dongle is not a solution for me as I run w/ my phone and it looks like the dongle will snap in two at the port with any amount of pressure.) Most people who like Apple products but don't have blind loyalty like yourself will take a wait and see attitude. Apple knows this will affect weekend sales. Buyers are not going to be rushing in. It might sell out, but it also probably adjusted initital production down as many rumors suggest. So selling out fewer phones than last year for the same period is nothing to brag about.
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It had 100% facts. Aren't you the same guy that told me CarPlay works over Bluetooth? Yeah, great facts there too...

I'm not ignoring the fact...AT ALL. What's obvious, and matches with the rumors we've heard, is that Apple can't make enough iPhone 7's this go around because of component constraints. It's ALSO embarrassing for them to report that they didn't make enough for launch. They aren't going to hide the quarterly numbers, you're still going to get to make the comparison and determine whether or not it is a flop...just not for another month. Even throwing around the word Kool-Aid just shows that you're incapable of reasoning because you dismiss other's opinions based on whether or not they a. post on this forum and b. like Apple.

And there's the blind loyalty comment, it's impossible to even discuss something with people who so easily close their minds to a discussion by using their irrational trigger to insist that it's someone ELSE who is biased in the discussion. I'm on Apple's payment plan, I'm getting this new phone no matter what, but I'm not excited to do so and would probably wait it out if I had to do the usual sell my phone/buy the new one routine. Guess I'm not so blindly loyal afterall, eh?

The rumors have suggested that Apple isn't in control of their initial production, not that Apple has decided to make less. Which would make no sense for them because, 1. they will sell less phones this quarter than they could have if they made more and, 2. they will report lower numbers feeding the Apple is doomed fire.
 
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Couldn't an investor ask: If you know that demand will definitely be greater than your supply and that you will definitely sell out of the product, then why not produce more? Aren't you missing out on potential revenue and therefore potential growth in stock value?

Of course it's easy for me to say "just make more!", but we are literally doing this every year. Can't we conclude at this point that it must be intentional?
 
bladerunner2000 said:
It really needs to drop a lot more for the morons at Apple to get the message;

Don't fix something that isn't broken and don't LIE about the reason. Can't waterproof a headphone jack? Tell that to Samsung and Sony who've done it for years.
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They've done it both unsuccessfully and in many cases but putting rubber stoppers in the jack. Apple has been saying they will remove this port for almost 6 years now...
 
I'm willing to bet almost 100% of supply shortage is due to Apple holding back shipments to make it look like they can't keep them in Stock when in actuality they have more than enough supply for the demand


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TonyC28 said:
Couldn't an investor ask: If you know that demand will definitely be greater than your supply and that you will definitely sell out of the product, then why not produce more? Aren't you missing out on potential revenue and therefore potential growth in stock value?

Of course it's easy for me to say "just make more!", but we are literally doing this every year. Can't we conclude at this point that it must be intentional?
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Intentional that they're not making enough? At this scale, that's hard to believe. It's almost hard to believe how they can make as many as they do in such a short time, anyone will tell you that.
 
bladerunner2000 said:
Not hard to still sell when you've got a legion of apologists who will buy anything with a shiny apple logo for the sake of it.
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I am someone who does not care about the loss of a headphone jack and will be upgrading because it's a solid upgrade overall. Does that make me an apologist?!
 
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Rogifan said:
Exactly. Smart. I'm glad they've stopped releasing sales figures outside of earnings calls. No one else does it. All it does is create a big fat unnecessary target that they're probably not going to surpass anymore now that the market is more mature/saturated.
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Nobody asked them to do it every year either, but they liked bragging about it. They are conveniently stopping now that there is nothing to brag about.
 
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Mascots said:
I am someone who does not care about the loss of a headphone jack and will be upgrading because it's a solid upgrade overall. Does that make me an apologist?!
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No, you're just an irrelevant exception to the rule. You'd be buying one with a headphone jack as well anyway.
 
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Nr123*123 said:
You need to learn about business supply chains. In very basic terms, how the hell do you think Apple will do their accounting if they don't know how many they sell. They have a financial obligation to investors to count accurately their sales.
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Oh pipe down, they will know eventually, but not instantly. That's not hard to comprehend, that's not unreasonable, that's not surprising. How on Earth could you interpret what I said as implying they would never know sales figures? :rolleyes:
 
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