I can’t wait for you to try the generous, polished, speedy alternatives.
It’s basically pure altruism and alacrity over there. Have fun.
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Apple Will Replace the Battery in Your iPhone 6 or Later Even if It Passes a Genius Bar Diagnostic Test
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I can’t wait for you to try the generous, polished, speedy alternatives.
It’s basically pure altruism and alacrity over there. Have fun.
There wouldn't be a recall, the warranty in the US is 12 months. After that the battery has met the requirements for a full life.
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Another view of the same...
Apple does something that don't people like:
"those people are wrong"
"works perfect for me (so it must work perfect for you)"
"99% don't want..."
"$2XX billion in the bank can't be wrong"
"there is no problem- just trolls making stuff up"
"Samsung/Microsoft/Amazon/Google do that every day"
and finally, when someone persists their own experience by not accepting any of the above, they get called names like trolls and Samsung shills.
Apple does something people like:
"the genius of Apple"
"they may not be first but they get it right."
That's certainly not how the car industry works.
So recall has something to do with warranty, care to explain your logic?
How does a court decide something without proof? How do they prove Apple was nefarious?
I was just thinking the same actually as my wife's iPad Air 2 battery is junk at this point.
There are posts about it, but no, there is no throttling with iPads. Bigger batteries of iPad can stand power draw peaks even when degraded, so no throttling required to prevent shutdowns.
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The cpu isn’t throttled. However, newer iOS versions do run slower on older hardware, so keep that in mind.
Well even without pulling their mail servers and the like you could infer the potentially dubious intent due to the fact that they chose not to disclose this when pushing the update out.
Recalls a on a car are not the same for a phone. And out of warranty recalls are almost always because of safety reason. The only time you will see a recall on a phone out warranty is if the batteries are exploding.
This is an Apple forum, you do realize? It gathers people who actually like what Apple is doing.
On the other hand, that doesn’t mean they are blind. Like every other company, Apple makes mistakes. They try to correct them, and if you do like their products, this is good news. If you don’t, you shouldn’t even be here, IMO.
The root cause of this fiasco is Apple using defective crappy $2 battery with short life in a nearly $1000+ device then slowing it down via software gimp code to cover up the defect while baiting customers with a battery replacement PR offer only to deny them at the store to coerce them into buying a new device.
$2 battery BOM
Apple are dragging their feet less from consumer pressure but there is still a lot of room for improvement.
- defective battery replacement should be free and they should compensate the customer for gas, time and provide a loaner phone to avoid loss of business during downtime (no other company charges for a defective replacement)
- battery replacement should be high quality Japanese Panasonic, Sanyo or equivalent battery that last at least two years or longer and not one
- remove software gimp code
- follow the industry standard with regards to larger battery capacity such as 8mm 4000mAh
- update company mission statement to not screw over loyal customers
- fire the logistics mastermind Tim Crook for this grand scheme
$2 battery BOM
Apple are dragging their feet less from consumer pressure but there is still a lot of room for improvement.
- defective battery replacement should be free and they should compensate the customer for gas, time and provide a loaner phone to avoid loss of business during downtime (no other company charges for a defective replacement)
- battery replacement should be high quality Japanese Panasonic, Sanyo or equivalent battery that last at least two years or longer and not one
- remove software gimp code
- follow the industry standard with regards to larger battery capacity such as 8mm 4000mAh
- update company mission statement to not screw over loyal customers
- fire the logistics mastermind Tim Crook for this grand scheme
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Thanks, I would consider upgrading her to a newer iPad but the Pro is too expensive and the 2017 iPad screen is a step back from the Air 2 unfortunately.
The only thing Geekbench does is run the CPU and GPUs at 100% when running their tests. Other programs, say a game like Infinity Blade 3, do the same thing and would stress the CPU (and the power draw from the battery) just as much.
And I agree with you about the battery problem. As batteries chemically age, they lose capacity and they also lose their ability to deliver a specific current.
The question is, should an iPhone battery be able to deliver enough current so it doesn't require throttling during its "useful" life. What is that "useful" life? I'd say two years consider thats what apple care gives you, if not EU standard warranties.
Some users experienced this throttling just after a year. Some others didn't. However if someone took their phone in the genius bar battery test only looked at capacity loss and denied someone the ability to change out the battery under warranty if it was being throttle because it tested OK (even if it had degraged and couldn't provide the necessary current for full speed). In many cases these people were upsold a new phone instead. That is wrong.
Initially there was no throttling and when these phones were brought it, it was because they were shutting down. Hard to deny an issue when it was doing that, so Apple introduced the throttle instead. It "fixed" the issue, or mitigated it, but the problem with the degraded battery not supplying enough current when run full speed was still there.
Batteries are a consumable and they do degrade. However Apple also warrants them for 2 years in many cases. By introducing the throttling they are hiding a problem that should be fixed under warranty.
Those two sentiments are not mutually exclusive nor are they necessarily contradictory.
Do you think that Apple incrementally stepping up to the plate (rather than simply coming out and proud to their final conclusion) is worthy of criticism?
They did disclose it. And they briefed members of the press like Tech Crunch and iMore. Could they have been more clear and transparent. Yes. Does that prove dubious intent? I would say that’s very hard to prove. You’d also have to prove why. Unless there is some smoking gun like an email from an executive it’s darn near impossible to improve. Especially so if Apple wasn’t trying to be shady.
