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Apple's 27" LED Cinema Display Now On Sale

fixmymac said:
Call me greedy, if you like.....

I am happy with spec, glossy, pricing and all that jazz.

The thing that annoys me about this display (same with 24" display) is that it does not sit at the same height as the equivalent iMac!!!

27" iMac sits 2.6cm higher than this new display. That won't look right with them side by side!

Someone needs to invent a 2.6cm booster chair for this display. :mad:

Maybe call it an iChair (High Chair....????? oh, nevermind)
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Aren't there these aluminum keyboard stands that do pretty much just that? And yes, I know you would put that under your computer (iMac) rather than the 2nd screen, but still.... Though I do agree, it definitely would be nice if the monitor was at the same height as the iMac's screen.
 
fixmymac said:
Call me greedy, if you like.....

I am happy with spec, glossy, pricing and all that jazz.

The thing that annoys me about this display (same with 24" display) is that it does not sit at the same height as the equivalent iMac!!!

27" iMac sits 2.6cm higher than this new display. That won't look right with them side by side!

Someone needs to invent a 2.6cm booster chair for this display. :mad:

Maybe call it an iChair (High Chair....????? oh, nevermind)
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Another possibility is to buy a refurbed base model 27" iMac (C2D) and use as secondary display. Then identical displays can be achieved with respect to resolution and physical appearance.
 
NetScheduler said:
Take a minute to look at reality. Who cares? I'm not designer, a film editor, or any other type of professional who would require a High-Res monitor (and neither is 95% of the population).
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Who cares? Well err ...Designers? ...Film editors? ...Any-other-type-of-professional-who-would-require-a-High-Res-monitor?

This screen's targeted at the remaining 5% of the population and a very small fraction will actually buy it - hence the high price.

NetScheduler said:
I am a project manager/scheduler who lives in the world of Primavera and Microsoft Excel. When I'm home relaxing I want to watch video, surf the web, listen to music, and get my email. And there are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people like me who just would like a nice big monitor that's easy on the eyes.
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Then why do you care to add opinion here? There are thousands of cheap screens available for those uses. Why would apple want to make another one?
 
German said:
Don't forget, that the Apple "toy" has just one year warranty. You have to take Apple Care!
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Yes, the long NEC warranty is very nice. However, calling a display that is a viable choice for many people a "toy" seems a bit of a stretch. But it's clear that customers in the UK and Europe are getting a raw deal in terms of pricing.
 
DisMyMac said:
I like the feature that allows you look at yourself and everything behind you when you're trying to work.

Another bonus is the special "make display useless" surface that kicks in when the sun hits it.

Thanks, Steve!
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Where is your desk? Strapped to the back of a semi going down the freeway?

ovrlrd said:
For some people it is a problem, but for me personally I have no issues. All the lights where my computer is are very dim and placed on the sides of the room, not above or behind me when I am sitting at my desk. This means I never experience any glare at all. Oh and the only window is off to the side and has a window shade that blocks out light during the day when I want it to.

People overplay the whole glare thing, some people know if it is an issue for them and they avoid glossy displays. I have no idea how they manage to find a TV that is not glossy for their home theater though, maybe they use a projector. Oh but with projectors you also have to worry about ambient light in the room. See, glossy displays are not the only ones that have to worry about light.

Matte is nice but there is more to a good display than that.
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What TV has a glossy display?
 
No thanks. I'll keep my Dell U2711. Got it cheaper ($999.49 after tax and shipping included) and it isn't shiny. Plus, I have always like ultrasharps over ACDs anyway.
 
Benjy91 said:
You visited Europe? Wow that makes you an expert huh? Must have been a long trip to visit and tour all 50 countries to get your solid grasp on European Economies. You are partly right for several of the richer Western European countries, things do often cost more than American counterparts. But are much cheaper in the poorer Eastern Countries.
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Hehe, I didn't say I was an expert on Europe. My main point was that everything costs more in western Europe and you confirmed that fact as well. So I don't understand why people are whining about the higher price of the monitor for Europe. It's consistent with car prices and other tech products. It's always a bit more there. In the case of electronics, this is true for eastern Europe as well.
 
Jaro65 said:
Aren't there these aluminum keyboard stands that do pretty much just that? And yes, I know you would put that under your computer (iMac) rather than the 2nd screen, but still.... Though I do agree, it definitely would be nice if the monitor was at the same height as the iMac's screen.
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Someone may make an iChair. I dunno.

It just appears to me that an extra 2.6cm on the stand wouldn't be a daft thing to do. Someone may be clever enough to think up a whole replacement stand. The display is VESA mountable, so the stand comes off. I would buy an aftermarket stand to make it sit at the same height.

The annoying part is that, to me, this is something Apple should realise when designing things. I will just have to add it to my list of annoyances with Apple stuff. Like, why can't i switch between optical audio and internal speakers without pulling out the optical cable?

One day, i will purchase an iSoapBox, stand on it and proclaim my gripes for all to hear.:D
 
Benjy91 said:
But Western salaries are not less, probably higher in fact to keep up with the higher prices, only poorer eastern nations would have lower wages, but lower prices to go. Ive been earning $27,600 a year since I was 17, it's going up to $30,000 next year and Im only 19. My 24 year old co-worker makes $45,000.
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I actually didn't claim European salaries were lower. Someone else made that claim. The salaries you posted are fairly meaningless since the amount depends on your profession. In the USA, doctors make a bit more than fast food workers for example. The numbers you posted are neither really high nor shocking, but really depends on the profession. They are high if you are in the fast food business flipping burgers, but they seem low if you are an engineer.
 
I'm still on a G5 (i know) and am wondering what my options are if I was to buy either this Apple display or the Dell. Will a G5 (with a Radeon 9600) drive either of these with or without adaptors?

Thanks in advance,

Drew
 
gnagy said:
I actually didn't claim European salaries were lower.
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gnagy said:
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Oh and salaries are less there,
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It seemed like you were claiming it to me. I was just pointing out that salaries are often higher than American equivalents, to reflect the higher prices.

What people are complaining about is that this Apple Monitor way more expensive in relation to what the average American earns, and what the average Western European earns. Im not looking at specifics, but say Western Europeans earn about 20% more than Americans, to reflect the higher cost of living, but this monitor is way beyond 20%.
 
pubjoe said:
Who cares? Well err ...Designers? ...Film editors? ...Any-other-type-of-professional-who-would-require-a-High-Res-monitor?

This screen's targeted at the remaining 5% of the population and a very small fraction will actually buy it - hence the high price.



Then why do you care to add opinion here? There are thousands of cheap screens available for those uses. Why would apple want to make another one?
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Should not the professionals use professional hardware (EIZO, NEC etc.)? Why would they use cheap glossy Apple displays?
 
Ship date?

To those who placed orders - what ship date did you get? Mine says Oct. 1.

I'm curious if all of the orders placed are estimated to ship Oct 1 or if it's based on when the order was placed.

My guess is they are using the Oct 1 ship date across the board to be safely within the 1-2 week shipping range the store quotes.
 
If its the same display as the imac. Look forward to the yellow tint. Uneven backlighting. High pitched squeel, And grey banding :)
 
JAPears said:
If its the same display as the imac. Look forward to the yellow tint. Uneven backlighting. High pitched squeel, And grey banding :)
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Well maybe. Many of those issue may have to do with having to cram a hot, power-hungry computer right behind the display. For example, the yellow banding is suspected of being due to temperature gradients in the machine.
 
JAPears said:
If its the same display as the imac. Look forward to the yellow tint. Uneven backlighting. High pitched squeel, And grey banding :)
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I wonder what percentage of the users have that issue. My 27" iMac is perfect, but if I was having issues I'd take it back. Coming on macrumors to complain about it isn't going to fix your problem.
 
gameface said:
No thanks. I'll keep my Dell U2711. Got it cheaper ($999.49 after tax and shipping included) and it isn't shiny. Plus, I have always like ultrasharps over ACDs anyway.
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That's cool; but just to clarify, what you have is absolutely *not* a superior monitor. Make sure you know that.
 
JAPears said:
If its the same display as the imac. Look forward to the yellow tint. Uneven backlighting. High pitched squeel, And grey banding :)
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The studio where I work has four of them, and my family has two more. None of them have any of those issues.
 
lilo777 said:
Should not the professionals use professional hardware (EIZO, NEC etc.)? Why would they use cheap glossy Apple displays?
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If they like. I was just saying that they are the part of the market who might care about a new nearly-wqxga ips screen. Whether they like it or whether their work warrants a better, pricier screen is another matter.

I don't really have an opinion of this screen. I must admit, I was just picking on NetScheduler due to the irony of his "Who cares? ..I'm not a designer" remark.
 
German said:
ACD is more a toy... or for people who are mainly intersted in a good looking display
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Did you mean "a display in a good-looking chassis"?

My first take is that "good looking display" means that the images on the screen are good, not that the design of the case is nice.


KnightWRX said:
It's not a superior monitor if you value a webcam over color gamut.
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...and a 1m cable.
 
buckleyn said:
I have also read a lot of reviews for the DELL U2711 since the price is low when it does go on sale but again reviews for the U2711 are plagued by people that say that the anti-glare coating is very poor making things fuzzy and a magnitude less clear/sharp than what shows on side-by-side 27"iMac (see https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/865195/). They even say the U2711 anti-glare coating makes things much fuzzier than the coating on my current DELL 2405 monitor, which is very scary. If I am spending a bunch of money on a 27" I would rather have it be as sharp as possible otherwise I would get a <$500 27" with a subpar 1920x1080 resolution.
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Shhh. Don't tell the anti-glossy people about that, they might get upset! :rolleyes:

Seriously, the whole crusade against glossy displays is hilarious.
 
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