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Apple's Craig Federighi Answers Face ID Questions in New Interview
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If you read the article one of the first things it says is that FaceID need to see your eyes, nose and mouth. So if your helmet covers your mouth and/or nose you'll need to use a passcode. I imagine eventual goal will be to incorporate multiple biometrics (face, retina, touch, voice) so if one fails it can fallback to another... but it'll likely take awhile to cram all those metrics into a phone with good UX and good battery life. I'm sure Samsung likely already does all that in a half assed way (or worse) but that doesn't count.
See this is what I did not understand (believe) in the sales pitch.
It's flexible enough to allow for glasses, hats, expressions? make-up etc.
But it might pass ok, if you have a family member perhaps.
(Apparently 1/3rd of all twins are identical)
But a super expensive mask of your face won't work they say.
I'm super excited to see people put these claims to the test.
I guess it depends on established law at this point. The courts have already held that you can be compelled to open your phone with the fingerprint sensor but that you cannot be compelled to give up your passcode. I guess we have to wait for law enforcement to open someones phone with FaceID and then have it challenged in court to see what happens.
Here's what I'm confident in, however - that Apple is busy trying to stay one step ahead in protecting our privacy. They did that with TouchID by making it necessary to use your passcode after 5 unsuccessful attempts and by requiring it if TouchID has not been used in 8 hours or after a restart. As the law changes in relation to FaceID, Apple will try to keep up with updates to the feature that enhance it's security and our privacy.
As well, while it's a super cool feature that I'm sure will drive sales through the roof, you can also disable the feature entirely. I have at least one friend that doesn't use TouchID at all. Heading down to a protest for an evening of excitement and patriotism? Disable it. Traveling abroad and worried that customs might confiscate it and use your face to open it? Disable it before you get off the plane. I know I'm going to catch a lot of flack for that being "inconvenient" and "why would I buy a phone for that feature only to disable it" but if you really are concerned about it's reliability and security, you will find a way to endure the enormous indignity of reaching into settings to turn it off for a couple hours.
If people want to put in that much effort to find someone who looks like you (and face ID will still not likely unlock it), it would take half the effort to lift your fingerprint and fool touch ID. but you won't mention that because you desperately want Apple to keep touch ID
Nonsense, he’s just explaining things in terms the haters can understand. Anyone unclouded by agenda has assumed all of these natural use cases already.
That's never going to happen. Apple is moving forward and even said Face ID is the future. I wish they would do both but the more I think about it the more redundant that would be. And besides these phones are expensive enough.
All exciting stuff
Will admit, I would like to see "revision 2" of this new phone/line.
Well all know what happens between version 1 and 2 of any new Apple line/design.
So did you miss the revealing or do you like to make up false information?
The phone requires eye contact. Close eyes or don't look at it.
Police are trying to force you to use finger. They can't force you to look.
Hope the statement below is true, I too am concerned how it will react with my helmet on:
"If you're a surgeon or someone who wears a garment that covers your face, it's not going to work," says Federighi. "But if you're wearing a helmet or scarf it works quite well."
I hope apple are not pig headed just for the sake of it.
Any idiot can see, there are times when Face ID will be great, and other times Touch ID would be better.
Like anything. No 1 single solution is best in every scenario.
I'm sure Apple would have loved to have also offered Touch ID under the screen as an option now.
Would have pleased everyone to have both options.
But the tech is not developed enough yet.
If it ever does become developed enough to work well and get's used on other phones, Apple would be silly to just refuse for the sake of it.
pig headedness is refusing to use the passcode when riding the bike with full face helmet
who, @Piggie ?
nah, he's just slow ; )
4 years ago, he was posting things like:
And unlike now when you are sleeping, perhaps at a party and/or a little too much to drink. Now someone can access your phone simply by pressing your finger against it to unlock it, unlike now, they can't do this as only you know the code.
Trust me, we are going see see posting about people having this happen to them. finger print scanning is very insecure as everyone knows where the unlock key is. It's on the end of your finger.
Trust me, we are going see see posting about people having this happen to them. finger print scanning is very insecure as everyone knows where the unlock key is. It's on the end of your finger.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-lovely-results.1638067/page-10#post-17924622
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so, in 4 more years, when there's voiceID or pheromoneID (or whatever), he'll be harping on about how Apple needs to stick with faceID
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I would hope that If it is at such an angle that you can somewhat comfortably read the screen, Touch ID would also be effective, but time will tell.
who, @Piggie ?
nah, he's just slow ; )
4 years ago, he was posting things like:
And unlike now when you are sleeping, perhaps at a party and/or a little too much to drink. Now someone can access your phone simply by pressing your finger against it to unlock it, unlike now, they can't do this as only you know the code.
Trust me, we are going see see posting about people having this happen to them. finger print scanning is very insecure as everyone knows where the unlock key is. It's on the end of your finger.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-lovely-results.1638067/page-10#post-17924622
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so, in 4 more years, when there's voiceID or pheromoneID (or whatever), he'll be harping on about how Apple needs to stick with faceID
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Oh boy what a find.
Then why do you need to take off glasses or he meant glasses need to be taken off because of full face helmets.
who, @Piggie ?
so, in 4 more years, when there's voiceID or pheromoneID (or whatever), he'll be harping on about how Apple needs to stick with faceID
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I stick with my view that the most secure of any option is a code that exists in the grey matter in your head.
Nothing is as secure as that.
I'm really excited to hear the real reviews, and genuinely hope it's as secure as Apple's sales pitch made out it to be.
But you’re talking about the photo camera. That’s nothing to do with FaceID.
The key note was a little incomplete in talking about 'better' - FaceID has lower false positive rates (unlocking for somebody other than the owner). What we don't know are the false negative rates (failing to unlock for the owner when it should). A phone that never unlocks for anybody is safe from being unlocked by non-owners....
Yep...
And, in the United States, outside of exigent circumstances, a search warrant application articulating probable cause would need to be made, presented to and signed by a judge, before any search could be conducted.