People saw the demo and formed quick impressions. This isn't anything new for any human endeavor. This is followed by NOT being able to go and see and try it themselves, although only a small percentage of people who complain would go and try even if it were possible. This is human nature.
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Apple's Craig Federighi: Uncertainty About Face ID Will 'Melt Away' Once People Get iPhone X
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People saw the demo and formed quick impressions. This isn't anything new for any human endeavor. This is followed by NOT being able to go and see and try it themselves, although only a small percentage of people who complain would go and try even if it were possible. This is human nature.
How often do you have people picking up your phone to polish the screen in your life?
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They explicitly talked about this during the keynote and how it wouldn’t fool FaceID (I assume it also looks for things like blinking, natural movements, maybe blood flow IR changes).
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The iPhone X’s native ratio is a very uncommon ratio. 16:9 video for instance fits within the screen without being touched by the bezel. Only if you double tap to fill the screen (thereby cutting off sides already) would you have parts hidden by the notch.
Every pic I've seen, and the at the presentation itself, the notch was in full view...
You can almost see her wistfully thinking; "I'm worried about that flying black monolith over there, If I pretend I haven't seen it and look away, maybe it'll just go...".
I just had a look around and apparently you can shrink it on video, but not on photos, for web browsing you get WHITE bars at the sides which looks ridiculous, just make them black! There are some really odd design choices going on at Apple of late.
a movie , photo and content will appear in 16:9 ratio unless you pinch to zoom. this includes all photos and video taken on iPhone X. also take up the white lines with various site providers and not Apple. they do not own the internet and do not have control over the HTML colour of the site is when its to small to take advantage of a large screen, its out of apples control and its a down to each individual web designer
i know - it "fits" within screen but then it's smaller than it should be, and also have black bars on top and bottom,
thus resulting in a much smaller size than intended. tough problem imo.
Exactly! Intuition, analysis, and an understanding of how one uses technology are overrated. First-hand experience is the only true measure. Don't let people convince you that gravity exists... find out for yourself!
Seriously, it IS possible to objectively analyze something and determine with a particular level of certainty whether or not something is going to work for you without having to actually try it out. For example: A person doesn't need to buy an iPad Pro with Apple Pencil to know that the Pencil is not for them if they don't want to use a stylus with their tablet.
Since Face ID uses IR, the techniques for creating a mask to fool it will have to play to that part of the spectrum. Probably a mask that would fool Face ID would not be "realistic" enough to fool a human being.
There probably isn't a foolproof biometric way to secure a phone. Anyone who's seen Gattaca or the intro to the Westworld TV series would surmise that DNA and iris scanning are also fallible, given enough incentive to trick them.
But for everyday security in 2017, I think Face ID (and TouchID) are sufficient for most people's needs.
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Sometimes a person does need to try something. I bought the Pencil with my iPad Pro, thinking that I would use it for drawing. After a couple of weeks, I never used it again. For a few years I bought PDAs every year or so, thinking the tech was really cool and that I could organize my life. Turned out I didn't really have the will to organize my life in a PDA. I didn't really get an electronic address book and calendar until the iPhone and automatic syncing and calendar sharing, etc., made it so convenient that I couldn't help it.
I'm occasionally seduced by tech that promises to make my life better. The iPhone is one of the times where the promise actually was fulfilled.
Yep... the iPhone X is a little narrower than the iPhone Plus models... which would be a little shorter in height in landscape.
So I wonder how much smaller a regular 16x9 rectangle would be on the iPhone X versus the iPhone Plus? Is it enough to really notice?
If it's not too bad... I'll take the tradeoff of slightly smaller video in landscape... since I'm gaining quite a bit of vertical height in portrait view with lists and other vertical app content (which I view more often)
And let's not forget that the entire body of the iPhone X is much smaller than the iPhone Plus. So that's another gain in my opinion.
The lack of symmetry there looks awful to me. Looks like the top of the phone was cut off. Doesn’t bother me as much with the X because the notch is in the middle and the 4 corners are still symmetrical.From the article:
"Federighi said he was shocked when it happened because the feature normally "just works."
Why would Federighi say that if it actually DID work?
Given the choice of the notch of the iPhone X or the chin of the Sharp Aquos Crystal (which was my daily driver for 2 years), I'll take (it on) the chin.
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in one of the hands on videos they switched between the full screen WonderWoman and the zoomed out option,
and it was quite smaller.. i mean disturbingly smaller.
here, look at 2:21 mark:
The Wonder Woman clip appears to be a super-widescreen cinema aspect ratio. It's not the best example.
That's why I specifically asked about the 16x9 rectangle.
I want to see an iPhone X and an iPhone Plus... on a table... side-by-side... playing the exact same normal everyday standard 16x9 YouTube video.
I already know the iPhone X video will be slightly smaller... but I just want to see it.
Though I'll still take slightly smaller video on the iPhone X since I'd be getting longer lists in portrait view in a much smaller body.
And that is why Apple took the approach that they did. The notch appeals more to the general buying public than the chin.
The Wonder Woman clip appears to be a super-widescreen cinema aspect ratio. It's not the best example.
That's why I specifically asked about the 16x9 rectangle.
I want to see an iPhone X and an iPhone Plus... on a table... side-by-side... playing the exact same normal everyday standard 16x9 YouTube video.
I already know the iPhone X video will be slightly smaller... but I just want to see it.
Though I'll still take slightly smaller video on the iPhone X since I'd be getting longer lists in portrait view in a much smaller body.
yea, a side by side youtube playback of the 8+ and X will be best.
This is a big if,but it is certainly possible:faceid is huge fail and apple drops it for on screen touch id.
So your idea of "intuitive UX" is "cover the screen with a finger when you want to read notifications on the screen"? I am surprised you aren't head of UX at Apple.
TouchID, FaceID. blah blah blah. What is it that people think their life is going to be ruined by. 99.99% of people don't have to worry about this. You are not important! No cares about the garbage you have on your expensive toy phone! Stop pretending you are so important that someone is going to take an interest in you.
exactly. this is so ridiculous. like you all work in the CIA and under constant threat of being forced into your secret Iphone.
Did they say why exactly masks can't fool FaceID, or just that the particular masks they tried didn't fool FaceID? I'd be more interested in the why rather than the what. If it's because it requires some sort of subtle facial movement, that would probably put any possibity of duplication to rest.
huh?
you don't think people will be using the notch as an indicator as to which way is up.. especially when one of the features of the phone is swipe-up-to-unlock?
it's a simple observation that approx. 100% of users are going to orient their phone according to the notch.. not sure why you're resisting that so hard.
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pretty sure in just about every scenario where the notch is covering part of a video, you're also cropping out the top/bottom of the image.. most videos (say 16:9) will fill the screen top-to-bottom (in landscape) and letterbox on the sides.
besides that (which i personally don't care about anyway.. i don't think the notch is going to distract from the content i'm trying to view).. so besides that, we're talking about watching movies on a handheld device.. the notch isn't the problem regarding viewing experience-- it's the freaking size of the screen.. it's way too small to more fully enjoy the viewing experience.. at the very least, watch the movie on a laptop.. i've never (like for real- never) watched a movie on a phone.. i watch youtubes and instagrams and the likes on a phone.
whining about preferred viewing experience on a phone being ruined due to a notch is funny.. to say the least.
My gripes are not really about the loss of Touch ID but the loss of rapid switching to different apps, even now the home button barely keeps up with our ability (super laggy response, the taptic response actually reacts during the double click but nothing happens) to render a switch to one of the last three running apps. What happened to all this effort for the Taptic Engine to provide a home button click? I was really really hopeful they were going to revolutionize force touch this time around. I love my main phones (S8 and Note8) for the always present home button through pressure. I am just so surprised Apple didn't decide to implement this. From the demo app switching is going to be a chore it seems
Craig said it works with most sunglasses and that was my main concern.
The only reason why I won't buy X is price, I'm not worried about the lack of touchID. Eventually their entire lineup will have faceID, so it is just a matter of time and I'll use it.
I'm not sure I'll be comfortable with control center coming from the top, the main advantage of X is having a bigger display in a form factor similar to iPhone 8, but it will be very hard to get to control center one handed.
I do like the idea of swiping on the bottom to switch apps, and even the swipe up to home seems like a good idea, but of course they had to move control center away and that's a pity
The only reason why I won't buy X is price, I'm not worried about the lack of touchID. Eventually their entire lineup will have faceID, so it is just a matter of time and I'll use it.
I'm not sure I'll be comfortable with control center coming from the top, the main advantage of X is having a bigger display in a form factor similar to iPhone 8, but it will be very hard to get to control center one handed.
I do like the idea of swiping on the bottom to switch apps, and even the swipe up to home seems like a good idea, but of course they had to move control center away and that's a pity
idk.. seemed pretty ok to me.. for app switching you have these options (maybe more.. just talking about the demo from memory)
- swipe up goes to home screen
- swipe up & stop for multitask style app switching
- swipe left to right (along bottom) to move backwards between apps. (seems really fast/good if wanting to move to one of the last few used apps)
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that said, i've (obviously) never used these methods.. just saying that they seem pretty good from watching the demo.
The Wonder Woman clip appears to be a super-widescreen cinema aspect ratio. It's not the best example.
That's why I specifically asked about the 16x9 rectangle.
I want to see an iPhone X and an iPhone Plus... on a table... side-by-side... playing the exact same normal everyday standard 16x9 YouTube video.
I already know the iPhone X video will be slightly smaller... but I just want to see it.
Though I'll still take slightly smaller video on the iPhone X since I'd be getting longer lists in portrait view in a much smaller body.
Me, too. I use my 7 Plus in portrait mode more than 90% of the time. The smaller form factor appeals to me as well because I prefer to keep my phone in my shirt pocket when I'm not wearing a suit or sport coat, and the X will be a better fit.
If you're seriously claiming that having for the first time ever a phone (or any screen for that matter) that actually blocks/hides a part of a photo or a video (and who knows what else in real usage) is not a bad design and a fail attempt just in order to look different than the - far ahead in that part - competitive devices, then we should just agree to disagree. You are obviously unwilling to make any sane criticism on anything having an apple logo on it.
I think the "this side up" functionality argument, though, won the cake.
Exactly! Intuition, analysis, and an understanding of how one uses technology are overrated. First-hand experience is the only true measure. Don't let people convince you that gravity exists... find out for yourself!
Seriously, it IS possible to objectively analyze something and determine with a particular level of certainty whether or not something is going to work for you without having to actually try it out. For example: A person doesn't need to buy an iPad Pro with Apple Pencil to know that the Pencil is not for them if they don't want to use a stylus with their tablet.
You should avoid examples and comparisons because they really are not your forte. How is knowing you are not interested in a stylus even similar to knowing how a feature will work when actually in use?
I see all these people so sure that Touch ID is faster or easier because "steps", without even realizing that, with swipe and scan being simultaneous, in both cases they will be able to use the phone at the same exact moment, ie. when they are looking at the screen. With Touch ID you can unlock the phone in your pocket, sure, but you won't be able to actually use it until it's in front of you, because you need to see it. Ridiculously overthinking minutiae and thinking about impossibile user cases or differences of milliseconds that don't make difference in real life it's not analysis.