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Apple's Craig Federighi: Uncertainty About Face ID Will 'Melt Away' Once People Get iPhone X
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Except that's being told multiple times that by default the phone will show photographs, videos etc. in their entirety and without cuts, unless you will zoom them. So by default you can consume your content without hidden parts and so on. Criticism based on lack of correct information is not sane.
And yet many people here are already claiming this is a non-issue.
I just tried to quickly (and rather roughly!) mock up what I'd imagined, not particularly slick but this is what I thought Apple might do, leaving permanent black bars at the top and bottom that could still be used as real estate for status bars and a dock or something at the bottom (for balance) and have video/game content just fill the main section. Would still be bigger screened than iPhone 8 but less "odd" than the X. Then again I'd imagined they'd manage to reduce the notch a little too of course, given that the competition cram a fair amount into a smaller space.
So simple. But then they might lose the body-to-screen ratio compared to the competition. And that's all that matters for apple; hype.
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I guess you missed apple keynote.
You are missing the part where videos (movies, music videos, web videos and so on) are never at the native iPhone ration, because it's not the ratio movies, music videos and the video you can buy or find on the web are made.
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I didn't miss anything, those video were zoomed. The default behavior is the one I said.
«I checked on this after @Gruber and I talked about it and confirmed default video play is not zoomed so won’t see notch unless tap to»
«when using the camera, watching videos, looking at photos, or playing games — and iOS 11 hides the notch with black bars by default in those use cases.»
so then again, you will end up either watching a smaller video than the full screen,
or a full screen with a left side blockage.
how is this a solution? (and i do not want an 8+, i wanted the X so this is a huge compromise)
do the rounded corners trigger you as well?
and fwiw, ALL video/photo ever created has portions being blocked out from what's truly captured.. lenses don't see rectangles.. our eyes also don't see rectangles.
you think since you've seen rectangles before that they're proper and will seemingly argue to death that anything not a straight sided rectangle is wrong..
reality is, lenses see circles and our eyes see some other weirdness.. with portions being blocked by our noses and eyebrows etc...
your problem is that you're stuck on rectangular as being proper since it's something you've seen before.. and anything new scares you
the thing i can't figure out (well, i can but it'd be more helpful if you'd say why).. is why do you even care? you like the S8? or iphone8? etc.. cool.. get that one.. why is it so important for you to spend so much time at these forums telling everyone about the things you don't like? what's your actual point? that Apple sux? ok. cool.
good to know.. anything else? or you just want to keep saying the same thing over and over and over again for week upon month upon year?
hmm.. as mentioned earlier in the thread, i liked how this notch thing looked prior to it having an apple logo on it.. is it so hard for you to believe that something like the notch isn't bothersome to people and that some people may actually prefer it? like, to me, i think it's sweet how in most of my uses of the phone will have the status bar stuff up in those two little nooks instead of superimposed over the other stuff.. you don't like that?
do you think it would be better design to just put a straight bezel across the top? you don't think the additional little nooks are sweet? (which is basically how i see it as.. not that the notch is taking away from the screen.. more like additional screen is added which forms the notch.. they could of easily (like way easier than what they done on the X) just made that a straight bezel.)
do you think knowing which way is up is important? or no?
if so, do you think having no indicator as to up is good? or not so good?
I infer it from the demo. In ever instance, the phone was held up straight in front of the face. Like every other face recognition device out there. i would think that if it could work at extreme angles, they would have highlighted that. As in, "oh, wait, you don't even to look straight at it". Plus, it was clearly shown that if won't work for a profile. What remains to be seen is how much deviation from straight and level is acceptable.
Any phone/computer/tv has black bars when viewing a film at it’s proper aspect ratio. Moreover, zooming to fill the screen cuts some of the films intended viewing area off.
The Apple TV remote desperately needs a notch in such case
it's probably the worst device Apple makes to recognise which end is which When it comes to the phone, the camera bump tell me straigt away which end is which. Or the apple case, which will have the cut out At the bottom as usual. I suppose one can also use the notch. The problem with the notch is landscape mode, where it messes up navigation and UI on one side
with the X's aspect ratio, full screen with left side blockage is the same thing as full screen with top side and bottom side blockage.
i don't know.. if you're not understanding this then.. oh well.. get another phone that goes full screen side-to-side and top-to-bottom.. good luck with that though.. it doesn't exist.
I don't think I've seen black bars on the side of any content on my TV before .
even in the demo, i don't think he was holding it level to his face.. maybe 'level' was just a bad choice of words for you to use but level means-->
if your face is 5-1/2' above the ground then the phone would also need to be 5-1/2' above the ground in order for faceID to work.
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then it's cropping the top&bottom of the picture.. same thing the notch would be doing except more of the image is hidden.
I know. Which I'm fine with , just not right and left in landscape mode. Have to try it to see
Once in a while there is a post that is so good it needs to be repeated.
FaceID is a 3D scanner. Lots of possible uses. Imagine combining it with a 3D printer, just as an example.
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It's not only an option. Just like with TouchID, the passcode is required every so often. After turning the phone on, after so many days, after so many failed attempts. It also means a thief with just the right face, or a face mask, cannot use your phone for over a week.
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Some people think you can fool it with a photo. I think if you calibrate it with a photo, you can unlock it with any flat sheet of paper
Well watch an old fashioned tv programme and you will. But anyway- but you’re complaining that the notch would get in the way of full screen. Full screen can’t be viewed on most devices without cropping and so is compromised from the start.
Yeah I see where you are coming from. That's an edge case these days .... though if I plug in my old VCR
Come on. How sad is it that we are celebrating 4K content coming to iTunes, while using old content that is letterboxed to defend apples flagship phone ....... seriously ? Lol
NO! The point was that to have it full screen it would have to be zoomed because it is not the same aspect ratio. To watch it properly it would be letterboxed like almost any other device that exists.
Once in a while there is a post that is so good it needs to be repeated.
FaceID is a 3D scanner. Lots of possible uses. Imagine combining it with a 3D printer, just as an example.
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It's not only an option. Just like with TouchID, the passcode is required every so often. After turning the phone on, after so many days, after so many failed attempts. It also means a thief with just the right face, or a face mask, cannot use your phone for over a week.
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Some people think you can fool it with a photo. I think if you calibrate it with a photo, you can unlock it with any flat sheet of paper
I know there will be times your phone will ask that you enter your password. I was replying to someone who said they had hoped using a passcode inplace of Face ID was an option. So I’m not sure why you are replying to me and not the other person that had a query.
And for the record, you cannot calibrate Face ID with a photo.
I know they're effective, I'm just saying it's a downgrade compared to the possibilities that existed with having a dedicated medium to achieve the function over gesturing how I want my phone to behave, not that I expect Apple to meet my personal demands, they make a generic product, but I was used to the fact I can switch to an app three panels back all before the phone really begins to react on it (double tap and then tap the app I want and I can have my thumb well back to the bottom of the phone before it even switches). It was just something I'm greatly going to miss being able to do because I use this phone for rapid, 'get it done' tasks and it's been getting worse and worse every year and now that seems it's gone for good. I still can't get the up swipe for control center to be consistent. Thought it was just the release phone but I've already been through 6 different replacements for various issues that haven't gone away, correlating to it being the execution and not a per user basis.
yeah.. it was weird for me too.
the requirement is that your swipe has to begin on the bezel (like- to the left/right of the home button.. or on the home button) instead of at the bottom of the screen.
since that realization, it works consistently (for me at least)..
on this new phone, it's looking like that's going to work out a little better (since, for one, there's no bottom bezel
)but again, it's pretty hard to guess how this stuff will feel in actual usage.. for now, all we have is blurbs from a few people who have used it and everything i've read has been positive/improved gesturing.. so, i'm leaning towards the optimistic side.
I don’t like the double tap on the home button to bring up the task switcher. Sometimes it works fine, but other times it brings up Apple Pay. Or I accidentally triple click and I’m in kiosk mode. Swipe up from the bottom is an improvement AFAIAC.
Ahh I see how that can be a dilemma. I haven't had either of those features enabled so I stand alone perhaps.
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yeah.. it was weird for me too.
the requirement is that your swipe has to begin on the bezel (like- to the left/right of the home button.. or on the home button) instead of at the bottom of the screen.
since that realization, it works consistently (for me at least)..
on this new phone, it's looking like that's going to work out a little better (since, for one, there's no bottom bezel
but again, it's pretty hard to guess how this stuff will feel in actual usage.. for now, all we have is blurbs from a few people who have used it and everything i've read has been positive/improved gesturing.. so, i'm leaning towards the optimistic side.
I'm very optimistic but I'm wary about it as expected. I can only hopefully predict an implementation of force touch down the road. This phone definitely feels beta.