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Apple's Existing Mac Lines Tweaked for OS X Lion
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And the ocean is a desert with its life underground,
And a perfect disguise above
Ssd??????????????????????/
This is ridiculous, Apple make sure that if you upgrade the HDD then it doesn't void the warranty, and the apple fitted SSD's are Schaizer value for money, so now how the hell am I supposed to upgrade the crappy 5400rpm HDD to my Crucial M4 128gb I have coming the post.
IF ANYONE CAN OFFER ANY ASSISTANCE THEN PLEASE DO COMMENT
This is ridiculous, Apple make sure that if you upgrade the HDD then it doesn't void the warranty, and the apple fitted SSD's are Schaizer value for money, so now how the hell am I supposed to upgrade the crappy 5400rpm HDD to my Crucial M4 128gb I have coming the post.
IF ANYONE CAN OFFER ANY ASSISTANCE THEN PLEASE DO COMMENT
Regardless what the individual thinks, clearly with all the backlash, there is still a great public desire/need for backup/recovery media to be included with the purchase of a new Mac. Apple could have avoided all of this by simply including USB keys with the purchase of every new Mac, especially the MacBook Pro.
In my opinion, it's a sloppy move by Apple. The MacBook Pro is their highest-selling Mac right now. Despite that, new models have an unfortunate flaw in that they don't come with backup/recovery media, AND they don't have the Internet Recovery ability that the new Minis and Airs have. So if you should want to upgrade your harddrive, or if your harddrive fails, you're just out of luck, like some unforeseen loophole.
If Apple wants to get rid of physical media, that's fine. But not at the expense of new MacBook Pro users! They should have either added the Internet Recovery feature to all new MacBook Pros BEFORE discontinuing physical backup media, or, they should have included backup USB keys with all new MacBook Pros. But as it stands now, it's a mistake on their end.
If you buy a new Mini, you're covered.
If you buy a new Air, you're covered.
But if you buy a new MacBook Pro, you have to fix the problem yourself by buying a USB key and making a recovery tool yourself?
Having to fix a problem right out of the box certainly doesn't show that "It just works."
Why doesn't Apple just allow for new MacBook Pro users to request for a free USB Backup key if applicable? Wouldn't that be the easiest solution for solving what many people are complaioning about?
In my opinion, it's a sloppy move by Apple. The MacBook Pro is their highest-selling Mac right now. Despite that, new models have an unfortunate flaw in that they don't come with backup/recovery media, AND they don't have the Internet Recovery ability that the new Minis and Airs have. So if you should want to upgrade your harddrive, or if your harddrive fails, you're just out of luck, like some unforeseen loophole.
If Apple wants to get rid of physical media, that's fine. But not at the expense of new MacBook Pro users! They should have either added the Internet Recovery feature to all new MacBook Pros BEFORE discontinuing physical backup media, or, they should have included backup USB keys with all new MacBook Pros. But as it stands now, it's a mistake on their end.
If you buy a new Mini, you're covered.
If you buy a new Air, you're covered.
But if you buy a new MacBook Pro, you have to fix the problem yourself by buying a USB key and making a recovery tool yourself?
Having to fix a problem right out of the box certainly doesn't show that "It just works."
Why doesn't Apple just allow for new MacBook Pro users to request for a free USB Backup key if applicable? Wouldn't that be the easiest solution for solving what many people are complaioning about?
No, you can also send it in (and Apple will send you a shipping label). And if you live close enough to an Apple store and own an iMac or Mac pro they might also send one to your home to fix things.
It is desirable to anyone who doesn't have one. Anyone who does know it has a shoddy build quality and is ruined the first time it is used. It's both made to be cheap and low cost.
Do NOT CALL APPLE ABOUT THIS. They have NOT been properly trained, on any tier. I spent an hour on the phone with three tiers of AppleCare. I had to tell THEM that systems were no longer shipping with any installation media, and I had to tell them that the internet restore process only works with the Mac Mini and MacBook Air.
After 1 hour, they had no resolution for me other than "well, can you find another similar system that shipped with Snow Leopard and use those disks?"
I've registered a complaint with the senior technician I spoke with, and I'm likely to send an email to Executive Customer Relations.
After 1 hour, they had no resolution for me other than "well, can you find another similar system that shipped with Snow Leopard and use those disks?"
I've registered a complaint with the senior technician I spoke with, and I'm likely to send an email to Executive Customer Relations.
Agreed. I tried making a bootable USB image of Lion on a clean 4gb flash drive and it wouldn't do it. You get an error and quits creating the image. I also tried just copying over the file as downloaded from the App Store w/o making an image on to the clean 4gb flash drive and it wouldn't copy over then either. It seems 8gb is the minimum.
Killing off iWeb and iDVD?
Does this mean only those with access to a physical version of ilife will be able to get iDVD and iWeb now?
Does this mean only those with access to a physical version of ilife will be able to get iDVD and iWeb now?
Windows 7 is amazing in the windows world, but I think we can all agree it would make a poor replacement for OS X. The value of a glass of water in the desert is far greater than in the middle of the sea.
This is not true. A glass of water in the desert can be supplemented with an Oasis, whereas water in the sea is always salty...
We get it. His analogy is flawed. Enough already. That is getting old. Also, that point was already brought up.
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WTF is a "a valid opinion" ? By their very nature, opinions are only valid if you happen to agree with them.
But here's a few that are valid to me:
If I buy boxed software at a store (yes, rare for Mac software), it's probably going to have DVDs or CDs in it. I have yet to see boxed software ship with a USB stick. That applies to PC games used in Windows on a Mac as well. It certainly applies to the hundreds of games and other software I already have here on DVD or CD (many of which are copy-protected and so certain breaking steps are needed to move them to another medium, yet that is also illegal under the DMCA).
Logic Studio came on 8 DVDs. That's a pretty expensive equivalent USB stick for Apple to ship it on an a pretty darn long download to get off the Internet (i.e. over 40GB). More to the point, I already have it on DVD.
If I want to burn a CD for a friend who only has a CD player in their car (not everyone has USB in the car thus far), I'm going to have a hard time doing that without a drive. Similar arguments apply for encoding DVDs and moving your CD collection (assuming you own one; mine is over 300 CDs) to iTunes. Perhaps you've already done that, but not everyone has.
If I want to ship a home movie to a friend, it costs me pennies to burn a DVD-R disc. It does not cost pennies to make a USB stick nor will that play directly on their DVD or BD player.
Tell that to the cruise lines. They desalinate water in the ocean just fine. You can't desalinate sand and drink it, but even any private boat with a kitchen on it could make clean water with a few basic homemade modifications to a basic boiling pan. Better start looking for a cactus.
BTW, water does help to keep the body cool, even in a desert (the whole purpose of sweating is for cooling purposes and one of the major causes of fast dehydration in a desert environment. Ask anyone who has lived in Arizona how great sweating works in a dry environment. I was quite comfortable at over 100 degrees whereas 75 in a very humid environment can be miserable. You do need to replenish what you sweat out, though.
Nobody cares what you want, especially Apple. They care what most people want. Clearly your needs and requirements are so far away from the mainstream (ie. you enjoy swapping out computer parts) and to expect Apple to cater their products to you, when you don't represent the average consumer, is pretty ridiculous. I don't think Apple will miss you- they gain another 100 customers for every person like you that leaves. And it's not $69 for a USB stick- if you haven't noticed, it's for a brand new OS, + a USB stick. Apple has seen its insane success primarily through what you call 'dumbing down', or streamlining their products. They're posting record sales, revenue, profit, stock price, and customer satisfaction. Yet, they're 'doing it wrong' because you, specifically, are not pleased. Try to grow a bit, and realize that you're asking apple to shoot themselves in the face and ignore everything that has made them successful, just to please you.
Oh, and you want people to people who don't have internet? I mean.. really? What percentage of their market is that, like 0.000001%? I have yet to meet someone who owns an apple product, or even a laptop from any manufacturer, who doesnt not have internet access. But I'm sure that mythical person exists somewhere, as its used as the justification for your argument. That pretty much says it all, in terms of the ridiculousness of your post. Apple will keep ignoring everything you want, which is exactly what they should do to remain successful.
They probably think it's cool, because it fits where the sun doesn't shine easier.*
*up there noses
Does a box change warrant front page news now? Are you getting that desperate for page hits?
Pink∆Floyd;13064650 said:I think you forgot that this is an Apple USB stick!
Look at how beautiful and desirable it looks!
I am pretty sure that when Pink∆Floyd wrote that he was joking.
Water does keep you cool, if you don't have enough fluid in your body, you can't sweat. Sweating is how humans cool off. Also, if you can distill ocean water, then it's completely useful eh !!!
Unlike most of the people on MacRumors, myself included, a great amount of Apple users will never touch their restore discs. If they start having problems, they'll just queue up at the Apple Store and ask a 'genius' to help them figure out why their dock is stuttering or why they keep getting dark grey emergency shutdown messages. I have a friend who literally throws his recovery discs in the trash every time he buys a new Mac. It's always baffled me, but he views them as clutter.
So, I don't think many people will know or care that they don't have some form of backup for their operating system. Why should they? Apple wants to coddle them like newborns that lack the capacity to solve their own technical problems. Don't teach them to eat, feed them - they'll keep coming back for more.
I love Apple products and I love recovery discs, but who cares if they go the way of the dodo? We will always have a way to reinstall system software. If it means MBP buyers might have to shell out $69 when they screw up their systems a year from now, it's not a big deal. Alternatively, they can always just make a disc out of the Lion download file (of course, that's another $30). =) Most people blindly give Apple cash anyway - this won't change things much. Oh well. I can't wait to see this lineup of MBPs go. Take the DVD drive out and give them cooler operating temperatures, I say (as an owner of a 2011 13" MBP). I wonder how different the F3 button looks now that it represents Mission Control instead of Exposé. Hmmm...
So, I don't think many people will know or care that they don't have some form of backup for their operating system. Why should they? Apple wants to coddle them like newborns that lack the capacity to solve their own technical problems. Don't teach them to eat, feed them - they'll keep coming back for more.
I love Apple products and I love recovery discs, but who cares if they go the way of the dodo? We will always have a way to reinstall system software. If it means MBP buyers might have to shell out $69 when they screw up their systems a year from now, it's not a big deal. Alternatively, they can always just make a disc out of the Lion download file (of course, that's another $30). =) Most people blindly give Apple cash anyway - this won't change things much. Oh well. I can't wait to see this lineup of MBPs go. Take the DVD drive out and give them cooler operating temperatures, I say (as an owner of a 2011 13" MBP). I wonder how different the F3 button looks now that it represents Mission Control instead of Exposé. Hmmm...
This is not true. I preformed a clean install of Lion on a 2008 unibody MBP, using recovery, my iTunes account, and a wifi internet connection.