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Apple's Face ID Turns Android Makers Away From Under-Screen Fingerprint Recognition
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In Asia we have the habit to wear face masks. For various reason. Now I did it last time too, because of a cold.
My Windows 10 could not log me in with its face detectetion because, of course, the face was severe looks different. Now that's find for me laptop. But the phone I need to unlock more often in the subway and during the day. Then every time I need to lift the mask ?
Or can I register two faces: with and without mask. And will the masked face still have enough characteristics to be unique enough ?
Practical issues, which might make the Touch ID superior ...
My Windows 10 could not log me in with its face detectetion because, of course, the face was severe looks different. Now that's find for me laptop. But the phone I need to unlock more often in the subway and during the day. Then every time I need to lift the mask ?
Or can I register two faces: with and without mask. And will the masked face still have enough characteristics to be unique enough ?
Practical issues, which might make the Touch ID superior ...
Apple did here something incredible from a technical point of view and something genius from marketing side. All the leaks made competition try to beat Apple in under-screen Touch ID and Apple skips it delivering something completely different. Rest will still waste time and money for old biometric method while Apple is two steps ahead.
Guess you forgot about security researchers being able to get fingerprint data off a Galaxy S5 and intercept it BEFORE it got to the secure element. Or how they could add their own fingerprints to a device. Not much of a “secure channel” if data can be intercepted along the way.
That's what the caveman said when everyone was moving to metal axes. I want my stone axe and I will keep my stone axe. Some people seem to like to live in the dark even when offered a light.
Still an issue on the S8? Not all iPhones have flawed antennas ....just cause the iPhone 4 did... as an example
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You know how that analogy makes no sense in relation to a hand held device ...... aka... you use an axe the same way....
Have you had the same experience w/ TouchID??
No?? Me either.
Guess it’s pretty ridiculous to compare two technologies not even remotely related, yeah?
Straw man argument.
We are talking within the context of the design of a phone, and Apple is not a democracy. They will put out what they think is the best user experience for their customers, and you as the end user get to vote with your wallet. Like it? Buy it. Don’t like it? Then get something else.
Your choice of phone is not a political or philosophical statement.
More importantly, when can we start folding with those impressive processors!!??
I would have to hope they can register with masks, headdresses and other face coverings that are needed for medical, cultural, or for safety.
Presumably if it can still map facial features with part of your face covered, I would hope you could register in that way!
Well, like it or not, you can’t deny Apple’s propensity for pushing the market in a specific direction, for better and for worse.
This is the power of Apple. To crush the world and dye it in its own image.
Or, maybe
“Apple removed (insert your favorite missing part, like CD drive, ...) and still sold it,
so we can remove it too, save a few bucks. This way everything is blamed on bad Apple for stupid trend setting and we are in clear. Win win”
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More importantly, when can we start folding with those impressive processors!!??
I would have to hope they can register with masks, headdresses and other face coverings that are needed for medical, cultural, or for safety.
Presumably if it can still map facial features with part of your face covered, I would hope you could register in that way!
Even if it would just manage an impressively detailed retina scan, you could cover your face with almost anything
and it still should recognize you.
And the industry adapted. We got Steam, music streaming and cloud storage.
This is what I mean. People being incapable of looking beyond the change (removal of cd drive in this case) and understanding how the industry changes in response to effect a net positive for all of us (shift to cloud computing).
Given how the drive is thicker than certain laptops, how many people will even want it back given the choice?
I don't think k any of this news has any true value to it. Kuo is doing this to improve the sale of iPhone X.
I don’t even remember Apple adding features because it’s what consumers want. They have always been doing things their own way thinking that it’s better for their consumers.
Of course we won't actually know until you try it, but they have said it can handle scarfs wrapped arround a face. If it can do a scarf it isn't a stretch to think it can do mask too. That said, the picture they use has a guy wearing a scarf the way (I assume) they do in California.
In New England we cover our nose with scarves because
Obviously later Android devices/processors (where the secure element resides) are more secure. However, Apple was far ahead in this as well starting with the A7.
Then we have the keys being exposed in TrustZone on Qualcomm processors. Of course they patched it, but like the vast majority of Android related exploits, most users won’t see the fix.
Herein lies the difference between security handled by multiple parties (Google for Android, Qualcomm for the processors with their secure element and OEMs who add their own touches) vs Apple who is in complete control of the silicon and software.