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Apple's First MacBook Pro With Retina Display is Now 'Vintage'
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The 15” unibody mid2012 is also not on the list. 2012 was the last year that was sold, so it’s odd that it’s not there, but the Retina is.
Has anybody noticed how much we've regressed? The ports selection today is unacceptable! Nobody likes carrying dongles and I personally feel it was the worst decision Apple has ever made. The truth is most of us still rely on USB, HDMI and SD card but I don't know why Apple saw it fit to remove them all.
I remember when I used to own a MacBook 12" I would always have to use the adapter and to be honest, I used it often to access an external hard drive or photos from an SD Card. In practice everyone who owns a Pro device will need dongles, if that's the case then why not stick with tradition ports as well?
I remember when I used to own a MacBook 12" I would always have to use the adapter and to be honest, I used it often to access an external hard drive or photos from an SD Card. In practice everyone who owns a Pro device will need dongles, if that's the case then why not stick with tradition ports as well?
At the current rate, how long before the entire range is 'vintage'?
You just took the words out of my mouth. Apple is vintaging the Macintosh out of existence.
I'm having flashbacks to the dark years when people said, "Oh people still use Apples anymore?"
Apple doesn't even sell a expandable Mac Pro that anybody wants that's supported for Mojave.
Somebody needs to VINTAGE Tim Cook.
So, in other words, a machine with half the cores and roughly 40% slower clock speed is only less than 10% slower than the machine that is meant to be a powerhouse compareed to an ultralight? Sounds like progress to me.But what irks me more about these "Vintage" announcements are statements like the one above "has nearly reached the end of its life" End of life? Really? This 2012 mac outperforms some 2014 and 2015 macs, there is PLENTY of life left. Sure hardware repairs at Apple store are gone, so what? If a 2012 MBP dies, it's cheaper getting another one off eBay than paying Apple's exorbitant service fees.
And the truth is users are constantly "on their own" when it comes to hardware repairs. Any time Applecare expires, a person is on their own. Many times a $550 quote from Apple store means a user is better off buying a new Mac than giving that money to Apple.
I'm not debating the merits of newer Macs, that's an entirely different discussion, my only point is that a 2012 rMBP is not "near end of life" as Macrumors states, in fact they are far from it as seen in the benchmarks.
I understand why its end of life, since its 6 years old, but its crazy how modern that laptop still is... and not too far behind CPU wise it is, either compared to modern MBP’s
And again, here you are comparing 4 cores to 2 cores and you are suprised when the 4 core machine outperforms the 2 core (by in the grand scheme of things a pretty slim margin)?Yes you are right, the previous benchmark screenshots I posted were single-core benchmarks. These are multi-core, 2012 outperforms 2017:
https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/277
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I completely agree there for sure, and so does apple, which is why new versions of macOS (at minimum mojave) support this and other vintage machines. The one and only thing vintage is relavant to is hardware repair. Absolutely nothing else.
The 2012 Retina MacBook Pro will still run macOS Mojave when it releases later this year so it should be good for a while longer.
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Haha, no, a 2012 Mac does not outperform a 2017 Mac regardless of class/type. That is such an ignorant statement.
A few weeks ago I took my now vintage MacBookPro into the Apple store to deal with some issues. For $200 I got a new battery, a new upper section with a new keyboard and trackpad (due to getting the new battery) and a NEW MOTHER BOARD. Seriously, you just have to love Apple sometime, all this for a 6 year old laptop for $200 dollars, it is almost a new laptop now. So good payback on the original Apple premium (I wonder if Dell or HP would do the same).
No you are misunderstanding me, 2012 rMBP can outperform SOME 2017 macs as seen in the benchmarks, what some people don't like about the comparison is that it's between different product lines, but my only point (for the 10th time) is that Apple is labeling this "Vintage" because of age, not because of capability.
Unless you need to connect to routers to repair them, like I have to in my computer repair business.
Well, I also have the rMBP mid 2012. Yeah, it's missing some ports from my old late MBP 2008, but I still love it. I bought it used from eBay. The original owner had the screen and battery replaced before selling it. Since receiving it, had no problems with it. Only thing I did change was the RAM to 16 GB and the SSD blade to 1 TB. Even though it's classified as "vintage" as what redheeler said a few pages ago, at least it can run Mohave. Only thing in the future for it, when the prices become cheaper, I'll change out the SSD blade for either a 2 or 4 TB capacity. Maybe further along dosdude1 will figure a way for it to use more advanced macOS.
I recently picked up a cheap Power Mac G5 for its case to do a PC build, I've always wanted one for its build quality. When I opened it up and started tearing parts out, screw after screw, part after part, everything was beautiful, thought out, bespoke, amazing... sometimes I would pause and just stare at it. What has happened to this company?
Just had the top case and screen replaced on my early-2013 rMBP. I'm afraid that the next thing will be a GPU issue...
Just got a top-case replacement in warranty on my early-2013 rMBP because of a battery failure with ~512cycles.
Mine from 2015 is without a doubt the best laptop I've ever had. Thought I'd miss the optical drive but no...I would miss native hdmi, sd-card reader, old type usb etc.
I do enjoy the design of my 2015 macbook pro. I also greatly enjoy all of the ports. I think with these new macbook pros i would probably like the design even more, but the port situation would likely piss me off. But i already use thunderbolt adapters with my current machine so i guess i would get used to it