To be fair, and as often repeated,
a 7.85" 4:3 screen is quite bigger than a typical 7" 8:5 screen, as often seen on Android tablets
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Apple's iPad Mini: Thinner, Lighter and Narrower
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a 7.85" 4:3 screen is quite bigger than a typical 7" 8:5 screen, as often seen on Android tablets
But see, most **** that fashionable people buy has been ****. The iDevice era is the first time they've gotten quality. Remember when Jeep Cherokees were the rage in Japan? LOL
I can guess where you pulled that statistic out of.
Just call it the iPad Air, and it will fly off the shelves.
For everyone making the assumption that the device will not feature 3G/LTE:
Looks like the cutout we're used to seeing for data?
Personally I think they'd be crazy to only release wi-fi models. One of the big selling points of a smaller iPad will be portability. Along with portability comes connectivity on-the-go.
There is no logic involved here. It's about product differentiation. Apple wants you to own as many of their devices as possible. Ever wondered why we haven't seen 3G/LTE on their laptop line, like on many PC laptops support? It's because Apple wants you to buy their iPad. They just won't give you 'the perfect product'. Greed is destroying that. No matter what Jony Ive says...
Are you under the assumption people will think the two sizes are interchangeable? Is someone saying that? Of course they are different. That's the point.
As an owner of 7.7" tablet myself I can assure you that nobody (but Shaquille O'Neal) is going to hold this thing like they hold a phone.
errr, the whole point of making an iPad-slightly-mini with a 4:3 screen at the same resolution would be for iPad apps compatibility.
Different way to use it and situations (portability would be better, etc), ok, but that will still be an iPad with same apps.
Or you imply devs will target either both size or specifically one only, and then, welcome fragmentation.
The whole idea of this 7.85" would be to prevent that exactly.
What's your point?
Funny you should say that, since the prime targets for an iPad mini to compete with don't have 3G/LTE (for the most part, anyway). Sounds a lot like a differentiating feature to me that Apple could market the hell out of?
"The Nexus 7 is great when you're camping within wi-fi range of your house. The iPad mini can camp anywhere."
As for cellular data on laptops, it really doesn't make a lot of sense given the current climate of $/GB, but we can argue that another day.
I think Daring Fireball may be engaging in some wishful thinking with his speculation. Thats OK, I enjoy doing the same
Yeah he is drinking lots of kool-aid by the end of his article.
He assumptions are that the iPad mini is going to be the "touch" versus the Nexus 7 as the "iphone". Then flip flops and says the super duper thin mini is going to get a celluar radio. ..... you know the very principle difference between the Touch and the iPhone is a driver for a bigger battery.
I suppose Apple could eek out a thinner iPad mini if they make the same power sacrifices as the Nexus 7 does. Apple is after all the anorexia nervosa poster child for "there is no such thing as toooo thin".
However, that will extremely likely come at the same cost the Touch takes relative to the iPhone.
It is a very dubious trade off. More likely it would better to have the "extra" battery capacity and have celluar modem models. Wifi isn't everywhere.
Apple certainly isn't going to met the Nexus 7 on price. Google's margins are pretty close to zero and Apple is going to tack on their 30-40%. That is going to gap the tablets right there. Likewise if Apple is going to play the "screen is bigger so has higher value" game versus the 7.0" models is all the more likely to command an even higher price gap.
Kind of hard to claim the "better 7" tablet " when at the same time saying not a 7" tablet. (we're the almost 8" tablet ).
Nevermind, that aluminum tends to be a bit denser and heavier than polycarbon based cases. In the Touch to iPhone comparisons comparing dense case materials to dense case materials. The nexus not as much.
Likewise the whole argument he makes in previous arguments for the iPad mini as being "just a smaller iPad". Well the iPad has no "right way is up" orientation. landscape and portrait should be about the same handling characteristics. Now all of a sudden it is OK to deeply prune two of the bezel edges.
A 7.85 inch iPad can deliver almost the same user experience as the 9.7' iPad other then say web browsing which is the hardest. (Eddy Cue even commented on this to Jobs and the team).
What it also can deliver is a better 'on-the-go' experience that the 10" just can't do due to it's size. It is just not a very go 'on-the-go' device for commuters, taking out quickly, etc. It has it's place as the vacation machine, laptop replacement, home, couch, coffee shop.
First, you're comparing a Kindle Fire to an iPad mini...first mistake...usability on that thing is horrible and it's laggy and the OS sucks. There is a reason it's sitting on your shelf.
My facts?
I have a iPad 3 and it sucks for taking with you for quick trips, on the go, etc. I love it for home and for vacations and other things, but for daily commuting and other things where I need a smaller form factor that is more usable then a 4" device yet don't want to lug around an iPad case or backpack, etc, a 7" would come in perfectly.
thank you, I see we agree
we agree we don't know, can't be easily discussed until/if we can touch it 
^^^this sounds like you're contradicting your own point a lil, but...
It's rare but it's far from the first time.
People said the same thing about the Motorola Razr, and the Nokia 9860 before that. For as long as there's been a class of product, there's been a best-of.
But if people always went with the better product over what was more popular, we'd all have been rockin Beta VCRs in the 80s.
People shop for what they want before they buy what they need. Oldest rule ever.
For everyone making the assumption that the device will not feature 3G/LTE:
Looks like the cutout we're used to seeing for data?
Personally I think they'd be crazy to only release wi-fi models. One of the big selling points of a smaller iPad will be portability. Along with portability comes connectivity on-the-go.
Seems legit. That pic clearly leaked out of Foxconn and in no way looks like Fisher Price's My First iPad.
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Case close.
Bing is a money loser, Xbox is a money loser, Zune was a disaster. They can't keep making products that lose money or that cash reserve will be gone. They don't make money even close to what they used to. That was my whole point.
Unlike Google, MS licenses WinPhone to OEMs. Every device that has WinPhone on it has paid MS $15 for the privilege.
As to the xbox, MS makes its money on subscriptions, not hardware. XBL and the MS store (including movies, games, etc) is all tied to a single LIVE account (or whatever LIVE is getting rebranded as), most with a credit card number. They can afford to lose money on devices. Hell, they should bump the prices of everything by 10% and give the console away for free.
iPod touch thin!? Holy crap...
If its truly that thin I might trade in my "New iPad" if I can manage to lose the retina
I'm pumped to see the announcement and will definitely be picking up a couple of these for longer distance family to FaceTime with.
$249 is key, I hope they hit that...
$249? The iPod touch is $200 minimum. They had better lower the price of the iPod touch if they make the mini iPad $249.
This is going to be interesting, am caught in the middle with this iPad mini , wanna see where this rumour leads to