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Tethering is available on the iPhone - it's just AT&T that won't allow it (O2 in the UK has had it for months)

Tethering that doesn't rely on proxies or bluetooth? It seems as long as AT&T refuses the tethering, apps like Netshare are not allowed on the app store (globally). That is the only thing really missing at this point for the iphone or the ipad. As soon as it becomes available, Apple has another customer in me.
 
No, actually, I said that I expected specific new APIs to help with background audio and GPS services. I also said I expected the ability to save the state of an application for quick restart by saving it's r/w memory segments rather than having to serialize the app's data as is currently necessary.

While I didn't mention this in my earlier post, I also correctly predicted that if multitasking features were going to be implemented on a subset of devices, it would be 3GS and later, along with iPad. (Because these are the devices that have 256MB of RAM.) There was much disagreement about that one, but I got it right.

These were simply my views on how Apple was likely to "do multitasking right". They seem to align pretty closely with what Apple has actually done, save for my prediction of some cap on CPU usage when in background, which I've seen no mention of.

My comments were from a developer's perspective and maybe a bit too technical for some here to understand. If you didn't understand what I said, perhaps you should withhold comment.

Sounds to me like you predicted multitasking. Like every other Tom, Dick and Harry on this board. Only you repeated it a few times, noisily blew your own trumpet, then sat back and waited for the Kudos to roll in. But as you say, I'm no developer so maybe you're as amazing as you seem to think you are. If so, then Kudos.
 
I just want one feature!

When I am using RunKeeper or Nike+ and the phone rings, can I answer it, talk and have the application still run?

It is so annoying how it stops. I mean, what if you are walking and want to talk while having the app keep track of your distance???
 
Android, Palm and Blackberry all have had folders, and multitasking that works very well for years now and the iPhone FINALLY adds it can claim it is brand new.....
Apple did nothing of the sort, they specifically point out that others have been there first. Hell, Apple got there first for multitasking on handhelds with the Newton.

Glad i have a 3GS now too, that was pretty lucky.
 
Most people get a new phone every two years. Why is the iPhone any different? And the 3G phone is so much slower then 3GS.

I have a 3GS. Im pissed only because of the obvious ripoff. I honestly don't care about multitasking. The thing that drives me nuts is that they can easily make people buy the new iPhone without having to resort to this kind of maneuvers.
 
hey hey, it was because Apple didnt have it so it means its awesome and unneeded

now that they have it, it is awesome and needed

welcome to the mind of a fanboy lol

NO, it's because the crappy version everyone else had wasn't needed. The absolutely AWESOME version Apple has implemented is absolutely, positively needed. :D
 
Multiple exchange accounts. Does that mean you could have multiple GMail accounts pushing to your device through Exchange?

Yes, but one kills your battery, I can't see doing two. Or did they finally fix that issue?
 
How do you get the ideas for these things?

I wish I knew...I'm not a developer, I didn't mean for it to come off that way. I know a developer, and have read success stories from the early gold rush at the creation of the app store.
 
so lets see here.

Same crappy notification system that is very outdated,

Folders- About time. Should of been include when we could download apps.
Multitasking- About time. Should of been include when we could download apps.

As for not allowing 3G to do multitasking apple excuses for it are pure BS. They are about as valid as the excuse that the 3G can not do Video recording and way the first gen iPhone can not do MMS.

As for proof of this you have to look no farther than the jailbreak community.

I think it is sad that apple takes features that other smart phones have had for years and scream how they are brand new. Android, Palm and Blackberry all have had folders, and multitasking that works very well for years now and the iPhone FINALLY adds it can claim it is brand new.....

Glass half empty kinda guy....huh? :(

Steve
 
When I am using RunKeeper or Nike+ and the phone rings, can I answer it, talk and have the application still run?

It is so annoying how it stops. I mean, what if you are walking and want to talk while having the app keep track of your distance???

Obviously you won't be able to do this. Just buy Android-based phone.
 
As for not allowing 3G to do multitasking apple excuses for it are pure BS.

Not enough memory. 3G has the same memory as the 2G - 128M which is already too little for many applications now. That's why I predicted it would only be on 3GS+.

256M apx. triples the amount of RAM available for third-party apps vs. 128M, due to system and native app overhead.
 
Yes, but when iPhone 3.0 was previewed this time last year, there was no mention of a digital compass API right? But that appeared in the summer iPhone refresh

Of course there wasn't since it needed the new iPhone which wasn't announced yet.
 
When I am using RunKeeper or Nike+ and the phone rings, can I answer it, talk and have the application still run?

It is so annoying how it stops. I mean, what if you are walking and want to talk while having the app keep track of your distance???

yeah this could be possible with OS 4, at least it sounds like a reality soon from what they said on the keynote!
 
No way to close apps?

So the last question in the Q&A was about closing apps in multitasking. Steve's answer was "In multitasking, if you see a task manager... they blew it. Users shouldn't ever have to think about it." But with folders I can have access to 2000+ apps.

I think the new hardware will be great, but I don't believe that it'll run 2000 apps at once. Curious how this will actually work...
 
I have a 3GS. Im pissed only because of the obvious ripoff. I honestly don't care about multitasking. The thing that drives me nuts is that they can easily make people buy the new iPhone without having to resort to this kind of maneuvers.


Isn't technology just a bitch? Why won't everything just stay the same year in and year out - not moving forward or advancing? :rolleyes:

Get a grip. People have a choice. They don't have to buy a new iPhone. They can stick with their old one. Only the geek community really cares about multi-tasking anyway. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head. They are simply moving progressing forward.
 
Tethering that doesn't rely on proxies or bluetooth? It seems as long as AT&T refuses the tethering, apps like Netshare are not allowed on the app store (globally). That is the only thing really missing at this point for the iphone or the ipad. As soon as it becomes available, Apple has another customer in me.

No proxies involved at all - you can connect either by Bluetooth (which creates a personal area network), or via the USB cable (in which case it appears as another network adapter). It works really, really slickly and in the background (you just get a notification on the status bar like the in-call one)
 
Q: Are you concerned about leaving out your older customer base (with the lack of features for older devices). A: (Steve) Well, a lot of these products that are out there are the most recent products. The old devices will get the update, but they'll miss some of these features like multitasking. If that's an incentive for them to upgrade to a new device... terrific.

You can't support old hardware forever... You have to discontinue it at some port. If you want the new features upgrade. Same things when newer versions of anything come out. Whether it be Game Consoles, GPS, Camera...anything.

It's not Apples fault you are using older technology. My girlfriend just got an iPhone and I wouldn't let her get the 3G because I knew after this year when the new one comes out she will be 2 generations behind and lose out on future features.
 
You know I was not expecting any of the usual Hardware info like: New Iphone, New MacBook Pro's or when the exact date for the iPad 3G will be coming out. I do have one major beef about all this. Steve Jobs and Company do not usually open up to Q and A that often and these A S S Clown Media people asked some of the worse questions ever. Major FAIL go to the clown that was pushing his own website to Apple.
 
To people upset about notifications: LOOK AT THE SLIDE. It says explicitely that it will be enhanced. That they decided not to talk about today doesn't mean it's not there--they didn't tell us everything of what would be on 3.0 when they did the SAME event last year. This was a preview, and they highlighted certain changes. this was not an event to release the entire thing.

Yes, "enhanced" means they added local notifications. The demos showed the old style notifications are still there. It is doubtful they would hold something like that back. Plus, rebuilding the notification system would probably require some major changes to the API. For sure they would announce these changes at the dev event if they were happening.
 
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