Apple's iPhone OS 4.0 Media Event: 'Sneak Peek Into the Future'

[JAT]

Time to upgrade!

There you go...You really should be using an iPhone within the last 2 years.

If you use one 3 models back, you'll be missing out.

It's kind of true right now...it'll be even more true when the new phone comes this summer.

Congrats! You have both just denied one of your favorite Apple-isms, that longevity is a feature.

Accepting donations to upgrade my 1G Touch, as ordered by LTD.

 

[kemo]

Just logged in to the developer site, no OS 4 for iPhone, only 3G & 3GS...

it is there

 

[JohnDoe98]

No proxies involved at all - you can connect either by Bluetooth (which creates a personal area network), or via the USB cable (in which case it appears as another network adapter). It works really, really slickly and in the background (you just get a notification on the status bar like the in-call one)

Bluetooth is horribly slow and usb requires cables. I think when people say they want tethering what they really want is WIFI tethering that can be shared to multiple devices simultaneously, i.e. all computers and ipads in my household etc..

 

[Eidorian]

Congrats! You have both just denied one of your favorite Apple-isms, that longevity is a feature.

Accepting donations to upgrade my 1G Touch, as ordered by LTD.

You can't make money when people are happy with their computers for 7-10 years.

 

[sishaw]

Anyone wanna bet, especially with developers having full access to the camera in 4.0, that we'll also get a new iPad with a camera in the bezel?

 

[bobr1952]

Now as an iPhone user, I can't believe I get all that for free as well. Life is Sweet, thanks Apple.

I think that will be the reaction of most iPhone users.

 

[Jayomat]

who wants to buy my 2G... and where do I get a cheap 3GS...


oh, just to address those people who said that apple nearly eliminated the need to jailbreak: no, they didn't !

 

[irun5k]

So the last question in the Q&A was about closing apps in multitasking. Steve's answer was "In multitasking, if you see a task manager... they blew it. Users shouldn't ever have to think about it." But with folders I can have access to 2000+ apps.

I think the new hardware will be great, but I don't believe that it'll run 2000 apps at once. Curious how this will actually work...

Same here. I guess the assumption is that if you have music playing in Pandora, and you go somewhere else, you MUST have wanted it to keep playing, or you would have hit stop first? I'm not sure I like that.

 

[ItsGavinC]

I still think it's funny that things like "Unified Inbox", "MultiTasking" and "Wallpapers!" deserve to be listed as huge deals.... most other phones have done this for years.

It isn't what other phones have done that makes it a big deal, but the fact that the iPhone hasn't! That makes it a big deal!

 

[zacman]

BTW. Not having Multitasking on the 3G but having 4.0 brings a lot of silly fragmentation for iPhone OS developers.

Let's say you develop and you want it to have two tasks or processes for speed reason. So the app will only work on >3GS but NOT on the 3G. So every developer now first has to check if you got 4.0 and then if you have a 3G and if so he has to implement silly work arounds because of the missing multi tasking support. This will result in a lot of bloat ware.

 

[Sdancott]

Of course there wasn't since it needed the new iPhone which wasn't announced yet.

Duh! That's my point, somebody was ranting about there being no screen-resolution mentions in the keynote.

Not mentioning features doesn't necessary mean they'll be a no show in the summer.

 

[diamond.g]

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I know about dlc on wii.
But you can't download full games, or wii demos yet. (or gc games...would be a nice addition to the virtual console)

for example I seem to buy any games possible on xbox/xbla as opposed to wii because there's a)acheivements and b) dlc works much better there (case in point:rock band)
Nintendo did send IGN forever blue 2 via a download though...which is interesting..(as they could be moving more to their online focus soon...I hope!)

Virtual Console are full games. They may not be Wii games but they are full games.

I still think that this GameCenter will be nice, it doesn't sound like XBL or PSN to me.

 

[jaw04005]

Anyone wanna bet, especially with developers having full access to the camera in 4.0, that we'll also get a new iPad with a camera in the bezel?

I’m willing to bet you we won’t. Like every other Apple consumer electronics product (iPhone/iPod), there will be a hardware update once per year and that’s it.

 

[Dooger]

Not enough memory. 3G has the same memory as the 2G - 128M which is already too little for many applications now. That's why I predicted it would only be on 3GS+.

256M apx. triples the amount of RAM available for third-party apps vs. 128M, due to system and native app overhead.

OMG would someone please give him a medal so he'll drop this "i predicted it" crap? Pllllleeeease?

 

[NT1440]

BTW. Not having Multitasking on the 3G but having 4.0 brings a lot of silly fragmentation for iPhone OS developers.

Let's say you develop and you want it to have two tasks or processes for speed reason. So the app will only work on >3GS but NOT on the 3G. So every developer now first has to check if you got 4.0 and then if you have a 3G and if so he has to implement silly work arounds because of the missing multi tasking support. This will result in a lot of bloat ware.

What?

Why would you make an app that has to run as two apps?

 

[FerdiV]

What are you all bitching about OS 4.0 not running on the 1st gen iPhone and not running some features on 3G?

I mean, normally, you buy a phone and NEVER get an update!!!!!

With the iPhone you get an update every year, but the software grows and will not run on old iPhones. So logical.

 

[Ochyandkaren]

So not only did they rip off Xbox LIVE, they also chose to rip off the colors for the logo!

Or it was Puzzle logo

There are many iterations.

 

[kemo]

who wants to buy my 2G... and where do I get a cheap 3GS...


oh, just to address those people who said that apple nearly eliminated the need to jailbreak: no, they didn't !

Heh - what about to rather buy the new iPhone instead the 3GS ? Actually I'm thinking about to sell 3GS

 

[spazzcat]

it is there

Yes, I see that, there is no file to download for iPhone. There are only versions of OS 4 for 3G and 3Gs...

 

[Phil A.]

BTW. Not having Multitasking on the 3G but having 4.0 brings a lot of silly fragmentation for iPhone OS developers.

Let's say you develop and you want it to have two tasks or processes for speed reason. So the app will only work on >3GS but NOT on the 3G. So every developer now first has to check if you got 4.0 and then if you have a 3G and if so he has to implement silly work arounds because of the missing multi tasking support. This will result in a lot of bloat ware.

Actually, I think it's more likely to result in more and more developers developing apps that will only work on newer hardware. A lot of devs aren't going to spend a lot of time and effort supporting a diminishing user base.

 

[yonis]

Congrats! You have both just denied one of your favorite Apple-isms, that longevity is a feature.

Whoever used that as an "Apple-ism" is seriously misinformed. When Snow Leopard was released, it dropped PowerPC support for Macs that were just a couple of years old.

Apple has generally expected users to upgrade their hardware every two years or so.

 

[emackn]

hardware updates?

I know this was about software, but no questions in the Q&A about upcoming hardware updates to iphone? FAIL!

 

[lokster]

happy that the ibook store is coming to the iphone, id love to read books that way.

 

[kemo]

anybody gonna upload iPhone SDK 4 beta somewhere ?P

 

[jtara]

Let's say you develop and you want it to have two tasks or processes for speed reason. So the app will only work on >3GS but NOT on the 3G.

Wrong.

iPhone OS has supported multi-threading within an app since Day One. It's actually one of my pet peaves that not many developers take advantage of this, resulting in sluggish or non-responsive UIs, because they have not put their lengthy processing on a separate thread.

The change is that entire third-party applications can now be backgrounded.