The ad stuff is a worry. I don't want anything that distracts me from the task I am working on. Programs that implement iAd must be very careful or they will alienate users instantly. Advertisers don't get 3 minutes of my time a day.
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Apple's iPhone OS 4.0 Media Event: 'Sneak Peek Into the Future'
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What's the problem with iAds?? It's just going to replace the ads that are already there, and make them friendlier... It might even allow MORE free apps... That's a good thing. You can always pay for apps and those won't have ads in them. I don't think this is bad, all it does is that it doesn't quit the app if you accidentally tap the ad...
The alternative you propose is the following: You don't want to view ads, and you don't want to pay the asking price for an app. It's not even feasible because a developer isn't going to work for free (unless they are awesome like that).
Not all free apps have ads. This is a rousing endorsement and PUSH by Apple for developers to put in ads. Apple is selling ads so those developers will be EXPECTED to put them in. Apple doesn't make money on free apps if they don't. I wouldn't be surprised that it becomes a requirement. This will only result in MORE ads you don't want on a Phone YOU OWN.
Don't be so set on the koolaid and assume nobody understands the real benefits. Apple announced a series of catch up features, stolen ideas, and missed doing anything really special. They need a ui redesign on notifications without doubt. More than multitasking IMHO.
Nothing special at today's events. At all. I also agree with black belt above. The aids thing is going to guarantee free or inexpensive apps bombard us with ads and waste either bandwidth or phone space depending on implementation.
Just buy apps for now on if you can't bear to see them. Secondly, knowing Apple's prowess, these adds will look good. What's the big deal if they take up a small portion of the screen for an app you DIDN'T buy.
That was an absolutely brilliant Keynote. It delivered almost everything we have asked for. Multitasking was a brilliant execution with the background processes - that's all we need, anyway. The other features were welcome as well, especially threads in Mail.
As for iAd, I think this is great, as we'll start seeing better free apps, and was a major blow to Google's stomach. Nice to see some competition in advertising, you know?
And as for the iPad OS 4.0, I'm pretty happy it's coming this fall. That means Apple is making some serious changes to it to make it stand out from the iPhone. After all, with such large screen estate, I can totally see it having a different multi-tasking system. And I'm still hopeful for widgets!
Again, fantastic Keynote.
As for iAd, I think this is great, as we'll start seeing better free apps, and was a major blow to Google's stomach. Nice to see some competition in advertising, you know?
And as for the iPad OS 4.0, I'm pretty happy it's coming this fall. That means Apple is making some serious changes to it to make it stand out from the iPhone. After all, with such large screen estate, I can totally see it having a different multi-tasking system. And I'm still hopeful for widgets!
Again, fantastic Keynote.
Sadly iBooks pales in comparison to the Kindle app. And amazon offers far better content at far better prices. iBooks has been a huge disappointment. Love the kindle app on the iPad though.
These are not your typcal ads. If you saw what was shown, many of these ads are actually apps. So you could be in an free utility app that has a Ad for a game, like the toy story one shown, you then can play a sample of it etc, and then decide to purchase and download the game. Even the Nike one was for a downloadable app to create you own shoes. Could be an app for a movie and if you have interest in the movie, you can click on it and it would show you what local theaters it was playing (Based on your current location), show movie times, buy tickets, etc, using all the avail services on the OS to make it interactive. This is what makes these interesting. Its not static banner ads or ads you click on and they shut down your app and then open a web browser to show you a site etc.
Capitalism would dictate that developers won't go nuts with ads if their users don't like them.
You know what I really hate? Ads on my TV that I OWN. I went to best buy and paid $1500 for it and when I got home I had to watch commercials for Tide every 15 minutes! I don't even wash my clothes! What a ridiculous world we live in!
Oh so your solution is for me to open my wallet to Apple. Wow.
And I did buy THE PHONE. It is MY SCREEN, not theirs. Turning my phone into a Minority Report-like hounding of me with ads was never part of the deal Jobs first presented with the iPhone. This is utterly ridiculous. We need to draw the line somewhere or you may as well give up any idea of life without ads everywhere, tracking you, hunting you, invading your privacy. Is that what you really want?
People moan about the lack of multitasking, then when the iPhone gets it they moan about how it should have had it sooner/how it's ripped off. There's literally no pleasing some people. Would you rather NOT have the OS 4.0 updates? I could argue that the entire Android OS was originally a "stolen, catch up idea" from the iPhone. The logic that everything has to be novel to be worthwhile is incredibly flawed. These are great features that make the iPhone better, nothing to whinge about here. Yes, I personally wanted a better lock screen with more info, but (as Shane on 1Up used to say): "It's nice to want things."
As for the Ad service thing, hate to break it to you but you're already getting all the ads developers want you to see via google ads. This is just another (and better) option for developers.
Quit 'yer moaning.
You people expect the WORLD from apple. Sure, maybe the changes could be DRASTICALLY superior, but as it stands, there are no worthy alternatives in the mobile market.
I notice you didn't say "Flash is just used for horrible ads" this time.
I guess you're running out of reasons now, so you have to fall back on the same tired rhetoric voiced by the Steve Jobs faithful. It was Steve's trojan horse - he'll get the user base to hate flash, and you'll let Apple in the back door to do the same things you complain about. "Fun and interactive ads" will eat CPU cycles just like any other technology.Haha! Jeeps!! Brilliant!
Dude, if you wanna obsess about a friggin jeep in your spare time then knock yourself out. Just don't on here thinking that it means you lead an interesting life.
Haha! Keep up the good work there lil jeep-freak
What I should have said was to the effect of syncing cloud based calendars, i.e., gmail, alongside Exchange. If you chose to sync Exchange calendar events, you are then forced to sync over the hardline for iCal, etc. Or, you can push exchange through iCal, blah blah blah. This causes duplicate entries in iCal and the need to sync over USB in order to be updated. Same holds true for Contacts.
My Palm Pre accepts credentials for both accounts, merges each systems' calendar and contact entries into the view, all over the air. I refuse to post personal calendar entries into my Exchange system, and vice versa.
Okay, so do you just want to stick with the google ads? You fancy those? And ugh, iads is meant to REPLACE THE ADS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN FREE APPS.
Oh and, you purchase magazines right? They have ads in them. You pay for television? They have commercials. It's the way life works.
In a world without Apple fascism this might be true, but there isn't free choice of apps at Apple, we all know that.
Wow, what a ridiculous comparison. First of all, there has been an agreement from day 1 that my TV viewing would have ads. That did NOT exist with my phone. And thanks to technology, I have the power to not see them at all and still get the program. But that isn't the real problem with your comparison - my tv doesn't know where I am, it doesn't have access to my private email or track my web browsing, you are handing over private data without permission to total strangers. Wonderful. Have fun with that.
You are simply not getting it at all. If an app has a need to call the API to allow backgrounding and is approved to background because notification does not fulfill that need, it will keep on running until such time that the OS either needs to free up resources or it no longer is required to run. It can close when the user signs out of the service so that app can be closed by the OS automatically when you go back to the home screen because the need to keep it open is now gone.Engadget just reports that with 4.0 you can't simply quit an application anymore but the OS chooses when it's time to free the app's memory.
THAT has already been quite stuipid on Android but at least you can close the apps with a task manager there.
However Apple will not allow any task managers at all:
A: (Steve Jobs) In multitasking, if you see a task manager... they blew it. Users shouldn't ever have to think about it.
Most stuipid decision ever!
Have you never heard of the KISS principle? What is so damn difficult about this concept that you cannot understand? Apple does not want to saddle users of a "Phone" with the responsibility for task management. It is such an elegant solution to the problem.
Have you used any apps that have ads in them? Something tells me this is only going to be for developers that want to make extra income and will put them in there app. Hell pretty much any of the free games have the little "google" ad running across the bottom. This is just another tool the developer can use to get more of the revenue from an ad. I don't think apple is going to have something to the effect, you start up your phone and bam and add is showing. That is not what it is for.
