Apple's Joswiak on iPhone Copy and Paste, GPS Driving Directions

[smokeonit]

what about the bluetooth stack that will/would allow the iphone 2G to connect to external bluetooth GPS receivers!!! that way the iphone 2G would have better reception, less battery drain and could also run the tomtom software or do the live GPS tracking if there's no WPS coverage avaiable... why is nobody trying to find out about that???

 

[tunanut]

cut and paste...not in the priority list? perhaps he should take a looksee at dos. and how can there not be more outrage at one of THE most basic functions of any hand-held device? don't get it. there's dozens of features on the iPhone 'a' and 'b' utterly for people to goof off with. c & p has an application in e-mail, phone/contact....ugh, is anyone listening?

 

[barijazz]

Copy and Paste would be a nice feature but why the hell is it such a big deal. Most of the apps use very little typing with the exception of notes, text, and safari.

I would rather have tethering and flash then c & p... just my two cents

 

[WindowsGuy]

what about the bluetooth stack that will/would allow the iphone 2G to connect to external bluetooth GPS receivers!!! that way the iphone 2G would have better reception, less battery drain and could also run the tomtom software or do the live GPS tracking if there's no WPS coverage avaiable... why is nobody trying to find out about that???

I just paid another $299 for the phone. Not looking forward to forking over another $100 that Tom Tom and TelNav are charging mobile users (At least on Windows Mobile).

 

[Aznsensation45]

hmm

And what about video recording? Can that be implemented with a software update?

hmm, that would be nice, but i don't think so..i may be wrong though

 

[seamuskrat]

I really don't know what the hubbub is about copy and paste. Rarely am I in a situation on my phone where I feel copy and paste would be great to have.

I understand I'm the minority here.

In general I agree, but with the iPhone a few things change.

Examples where I miss copy and paste.

I get an email from Amazon. I want to track my package.

Option 1. Copy and past the UPS number
2. Go to Safari, paste, hit enter and I am tracking.

Or
Log into Amazon, then do their tracking and sort through the order. Not as simple. Not impossible, but not as elegant.

Second case. I get an address in an email. It is not formatted pretty for the software to recognize as an address and I want to get directions. C&P would do this for me.

Third case.
Email with info from party has interesting tidbit.
I want to send snippet to party B via iPhone. Can't do that now. I can only forward entire email which may not be best option or wait until I am at my Mac.


When I had a cell phone, I never needed copy and paste. But this is a mobile computing device which alao works as a phone. I expect more from it.

 

[smokeonit]

Check the prices that TelNav currently charges for Mobile Voice Turn by Turn directions.

$99/year. I'm a little peaved that Apple is relying on 3rd party developers to write this.

If you are driving alone GPS is useless. Most business people are driving solo when they would be using the built in follow the blue Google Map. It's an accident waiting to happen.

Very disappointing considering this is Apple.

i couldn't agree more, forcing this on drivers is so stupid!!! without voice output this plain dangerous... i myself almost rear ended someone using google maps for navigating in the city...

 

[TheChemist]

Hey Rogers, that's a good one. Your company managed to sell a maximum of 10000 phones over a weekend. If you offer voice plans with a good value instead of terrible value, remove the system access fee, and offer call display by default, then you'll gain about 80000 customers instead of 10000. Anyway, congratulations on your ridiculously high profit margin, because it's not the customer satisfaction that matters, it's how much money your company can make per day.

That's an oligopoly for you. If you haven't already, you might want to take a look at bill C-555 to remove system access fees.

As for the main topic, I had no clue implementing copy/paste was a feat in of itself.

 

[Kwill]

I wonder if anyone has any market research on the percentage of users who actually use this feature... (I know its needed and highly requested but Im wondering anyway)

I wish I could copy your comment, paste it into the body of an email, place quotes around it to tell you how surprised at your comment I am. But alas, copy and paste is not available on an iPhone and I am too lazy to retype everything you said.

 

[tunanut]

In general I agree, but with the iPhone a few things change...snip...


When I had a cell phone, I never needed copy and paste. But this is a mobile computing device which alao works as a phone. I expect more from it.

Couldn't agree more, well I could but I'd need to c&p from another post.... And you folks who think c&p is not missed prob don't see why a B'berry is so useful for biz.

 

[MathiasMag]

Yeah sounds like a lot of BS to me.

Because what kind of software practice would it be to implement things by priority? Of course they have a list with their defined priorities. We may disagree with what they think is important, but it is unlikely that they hold a feature just out of spite for the customers whole will buy the phone.

 

[smokeonit]

Check the prices that TelNav currently charges for Mobile Voice Turn by Turn directions.

$99/year. I'm a little peaved that Apple is relying on 3rd party developers to write this.

If you are driving alone GPS is useless. Most business people are driving solo when they would be using the built in follow the blue Google Map. It's an accident waiting to happen.

Very disappointing considering this is Apple.

i agree, forcing this on drivers is so stupid!!! without voice output this plain dangerous... i myself almost rear ended someone using google maps for navigating in the city...

 

[kjs862]

Nice, I can't wait to see what some developers can do with this GPS - it seems very accurate!

 

[queshy]

I've done this many times with the v1 iPhone. I've noticed with the 2.0 software it updates much better while moving than before though.

This is my first iPhone. The GPS is scary accurate! Change from the center lane to the left lane and the little bubble moves to the left!

 

[Snacks]

here's how they could implement it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXgsQhiGeag

"i love you" at the end, cracks me up every time. I'd love Apple as well if we could put this behind us already and start complaining about the next non-implemented function on the iPhone

 

[mixel]

i agree, forcing this on drivers is so stupid!!! without voice output this plain dangerous... i myself almost rear ended someone using google maps for navigating in the city...

.. I'm hoping you're being sarcastic.

Else, I'm pretty sure Apple didn't force this on any drivers.. You take sole responsibility for gauging something's functionality before getting into a car with it and risking other people's lives. Apple didn't tell you to drive whilst looking at it.

 

[X38]

I agree strongly with those who would like to see copy & paste functions. After a year of living with the iphone, the lack of such is becoming pretty frustrating.
If figuring out how to implement it with the touch interface is the problem, I wonder if the volume up & down buttons on the side of the phone could be used in the same way a mouse button and/or command key are when doing copy & paste?

Aside from that, a couple other things I would really like to see are a version of the Finder for file manipulation and access to the USB port in the SDK so that third party developers could also offer hardware add-ons. (For example, I'd like to see an infrared transceiver plug-in to work with a universal remote control application.)

 

[Apple Ink]

Great... now only if they could add video recording, encoding and upload to youtube or others....

 

[Consultant]

Everybody please please write to apple.com/feedback about copy paste.

Some people consider that a basic feature and some people will not consider an iPhone without copy paste. So the sooner it's available, the more faster iPhone will sell.

 

[ntrigue]

Re: GPS
He's essentially stating that although the iPhone has the capability to perform 'turn-by-turn' directions; they couldn't work out the liability. All in-car navigation has a release of liability that you agree to when it boots. This is further compounded by both the fact that it's also a cellular phone and Apple's insistance that Apps not run in the background.

 

[ntrigue]

Everybody please please write to apple.com/feedback about copy paste.

Some people consider that a basic feature and some people will not consider an iPhone without copy paste. So the sooner it's available, the more faster iPhone will sell.

I was in-call today and needed to jot some numbers and emails, accordingly I opened 'Notes.app' and took down the information. Low and behold when the call ended I had no way to copy these items into 'Contacts.app' and was stuck re-writing onto paper then inputting.

 

[Mr. Zorg]

I'm guessing it takes at least 1GB of data for this. ... So then, how would Apple distribute this app via iTunes? Very slowly! Maybe that's the problem?

When they released the SDK, Apple said there was a 2GB limit on an app. That would allow for some seriously complex apps. So, I think they are prepared for something like this. My guess is it's simply a matter of its still being worked on my third parties. I'd bet almost anything that we WILL see this, and fairly soon.

 

[Mr. Zorg]

Just speculating here but it sounds like the GPS in the iPhone will work just fine for turn by turn directions but Apple just doesn't want to do or say anything that opens them up to legal liability should anyone get in an accident while using a driving directions product. By just being the platform vendor and letting other companies like TomTom provide the software, they avoid getting involved directly.

Not only that, efficient route mapping, traffic, construction, etc., is an extraordinarily complex thing. Why do it when there's other companies that have already mastered it and are dedicated to it? Let them do it.

 

[Mr. Zorg]

According to NyTimes Nokia sells 10 Million phones per week.

But not 10 million of ONE phone. They make dozens.

 

[Bigsam411]

When they released the SDK, Apple said there was a 2GB limit on an app. That would allow for some seriously complex apps. So, I think they are prepared for something like this. My guess is it's simply a matter of its still being worked on my third parties. I'd bet almost anything that we WILL see this, and fairly soon.

Well you figure the phone has been out for less than a week, and developers did not get much hands on time with any api's for the gps chip so it might be a while before we see any gps apps.