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Wow, I had to Google because I thought you were being satirical. It’s real.
No sir! It’s the real deal. Zollotech mentioned it too. Proof below: you can see the different firmware versions. Posted on Private Forum here. Even Apple adapters are receiving firmware updates nowadays.

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So much faith on USB-C ports/plugs providing power. Were you around when USB A (regular USB) also provided power? It was not necessarily reliable, depending on the manufacturer and other factors that I don’t even know about.

Yes, in theory USB-C would provide the power. But a lot depends on other things…
It’s not so much faith. It’s proven experience from iPad Pros since 2018.
I was building my own PCs when the first USB came out. Guess now I have the qualification to share? Haha.
 
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It’s not so much faith. It’s proven experience from iPad Pros since 2018.
I was building my own PCs when the first USB came out. Guess now I have the qualification to share? Haha.

What I’m saying is the experience could be uneven. In your case it worked at least with the combination of devices you have. I’ve had scenarios with USB A and USB hubs where they just worked and some time later with other devices they do not work as expected.
 
It hardly worked for me even before the 16.5 update, depending on the device connected ofc.

For example, it worked fine with my Cambridge Audio Hi-Fi amplifier but it didn’t work with Schiit Modi+ DAC.

The smaller Lighting to USB-A adapter works just fine with both.
CCK3 doesn’t work on 16.5 with my Schiit Gungnir Multibit (Unison USB).

Was fine until 16.5 beta and 16.5 public release.
 
CCK3 doesn’t work on 16.5 with my Schiit Gungnir Multibit (Unison USB).

Was fine until 16.5 beta and 16.5 public release.
Yeah, not good. I hope they’ll release CCK3 firmware update soon enough
 
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This was expected "forced upgrades". You think this is worse? iOS18 will make all lightning obsolete and requires everyone to upgrade their iPhone to USB-C to comply with EU ruling.
it won’t affect existing iphones
 
Seriously, why are there so many bugs?!
Are there more bugs?

It seems to me that these days sites like MacRumors jump on any and all bugs because they drive clicks.

Without knowing numbers, could it be just the observer effect?

Also, operating systems get more complex with time, so there are bound to be more interdependencies.
 
Firmware for a cable? What the heck? What happened to just plugging in a cable and it just working on its own?

Tell us you don't understand how modern cables work without telling us you don't understand how modern cables work
 
Are there more bugs?

It seems to me that these days sites like MacRumors jump on any and all bugs because they drive clicks.

Without knowing numbers, could it be just the observer effect?

Also, operating systems get more complex with time, so there are bound to be more interdependencies.

this is the most likely place to find a bug report
it’s not over-reporting
it’s odd that a currently available Apple product is rendered incompatible by its own manufacturer’s upgrade
 
this is the most likely place to find a bug report
it’s not over-reporting
it’s odd that a currently available Apple product is rendered incompatible by its own manufacturer’s upgrade

As long as I have been around software, most bugs have been found in surprisingly common locations
 
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Am I missing something here? My understanding is iOS 16.4.1(a) was the rapid security response that had all the security fixes that later came out as iOS 16.5. As I understand, there are no additional security fixes included in iOS 16.5
(a) fixed 2 of 3 zero-day exploits. But there's one that's only contained in 16.5.
 
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In earlier times when software mostly wasn’t distributed over the internet and new versions were only released every 2-3 years, more care (and time!) was taken to eliminate as many bugs as possible before the release
This is a rose colored glasses view, to be sure. :) The biggest difference now and then is that any bugs took far longer to be fixed. For someone not affected by the bugs that shipped, it may have FELT like companies were shipping “bug free software”, but they never were.

and after the release the software remained stable for a long time, with only remaining bugs being patched but no new features (and thus new bugs) being introduced.
To me, a company “patching remaining bugs” is “consciously shipping those bugs under the pretense that they can fix them later”. Again, no different between then and now other than fixes will ship sooner these days.
 
had this with my 9th gen iPad (sits on my desk for music listening, use the adaptor to keep it powered (via a generic USB > lightning cable from a USB power socket, and connected to my DAC)

the USB-A port was still working but no charging, until I swapped the power to an (Apple branded) 20w USB-C power plug and an Apple branded USB-C > lightning cable

now it is working fine as before 16.5
 
I keep winning everytime. Still on 15.7, I will wait until 16.5.1 before I upgrade my least critical device which is my iPad. Likely not gonna upgrade my iPhone X until 16.6.1.

Me too. I like to stay one major iOS/iPadOS version behind. It's worked out well in my experience.

My 2022 iPhone SE is still on 15.7.1. My iPad Air 2 is still on 14.

By the time iOS 17/iPadOS 17 is released iOS 16/iPadOS16 will be pretty polished and reliable. Assuming there are no disastrous or deal-breaking bugs, the final day before 17 drops I will update to 16.7.x or 16.8.x

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