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Not really.. if apple wanted to sell more 64 phones they would have not made the 16 model to begin with.
I think the 16gig model is there so they can say "starts at $199" or whatever the lowest possible price is.

You've never been in sales have you? I can tell. I've been in sales for....let's just say far more than 15 years, and I can tell you first hand that leader pieces are designed to entice the customer to spend more money on the higher model or if they get the leader piece the customer will get nickeled and dime'd for the extras in order to enhance the experience. Case in point Apple's cloud storage options. If they can't get the customer to go for the 64GB, the customer is liable to pay for the cloud storage when they realize 16GB is not enough to store a pea in.
 
Worst source ever! (Which I warned you about).

Here is quote right from the source.




So right there is clearly does NOT represent the "average" 16gb phone buyer. Fail.

My data may not be great, but you have no data the other way. You have ZERO overall snapshot of the average 16GB user WHATSOEVER.
 
Because  isn't pricing other phones, they are pricing theirs. Porsche shouldn't have to sell at Hyundai prices just because Hyundai decided to have a lower price. Apple, like Porsche tries to provide a higher quality experience at many levels and charges what people will pay!

That last part in bold is important. People buy these phones over cheaper phones WILLINGLY. This isn't like raising the price on life saving medicine to force those with no choice to buy it.

Yes, I understand that. But I wasn't saying for Apple to lower their prices? I was stating that for the same price, the competition also offers superb, powerful features AND 32GB base. I realize that people would buy the newest iPhone if it had even 8GB of base storage.

Porsche doesn't purposely make a gas tank half the size of what everyone else does, with the mentality "it's for people who aren't heavy drivers" and then upsell people to a larger gas tank for additional
premium prices. Remember that he iPhone is already a premium phone. I personally don't think that we should have to pay an additional premium of $100 for something as simple as just a small storage bump.
 
They've not lost anything though, that's the point. They're complaining about not being given something for nothing. Life's not fair, that's just the way it is I'm afraid. First world problems, lol.

"I can't afford to record more than half an hour of 4K at a time on my new iPhone"
Actually they're complaining about not getting a necessary upgrade that wasn't upgraded purely out of Apple's greed. As many have already mentioned, people need more space on their phones now even if they're a regular user. But Apple chose to bump the middle and top tier but not the entry tier. And the entry is the one that needs the bump the most. If you were a 32 Gb customer, you got up a bump to 64 for the same price. What do 16 Gb customers get? Nothing but a phone that is limited by its lack of storage. Is that fair? If it isn't, then their complaints are valid.
 
Why are you defending Apple? May I ask if you own any shares and/or have any incentive with the company?

It's his/her opinion. Doesn't have to be the same as someone else's.

It's just odd for me, shouldn't consumers stick together to get their money's worth? Instead some are literally worried about Apple losing revenue.

If "Sticking Together" means agreeing with each other and not having a backbone to voice your own opinion on a matter then the answer is no. That's just plain silly.
 
LMAO. Now do people understand the 16g phone? That 64g option sure looks good now. No wait, I'll simply use more iCloud space so 16g is ok with me, right.

Send Tim an email. Let him know how "Sheepish" you feel. ;)
 
The funniest thing about all this is that it's set to "on" by default, so people who buy a 16GB will be wondering how their phone filled up in a couple weeks

I'm really happy Apple is keeping the 16GB, I want that profit margin to be as big as possible, helps me sleep well at night :)
 
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16GB lol.

Apple please. There has to be at least one sane person who thought "we can't ship 16GB phones" inside those walls, right? RIGHT?
But iCloud pricing was just halved. Use iCloud photos and you'll never run out of space on your phone.
 
It was last gen too. I'd have been less frustrated if they offered the second tier at 64gb, but why would they. I've lost hope. We won't see higher than 16gb base until the OS just gets too big to conceivably expect even light apps to have room left over.
And even then, it'll probably still be 16 GB. :confused:


But iCloud pricing was just halved. Use iCloud photos and you'll never run out of space on your phone.
Why do people keep saying this nonsense? The cloud isn't a solution. More local storage is. Most people have very limited data plans on their phone and aren't always around wifi. On top of that ... you need good reception to use the cloud and that isn't always available either. Apps are taking up more and more space ... the phone now has a 12 MP camera and can take 4K video ... 16 GB will eventually be unusable. I feel as though Apple will let 16 GB run its course until the bitter end. And why do you think photos are the only thing that take up space?
 
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But iCloud pricing was just halved. Use iCloud photos and you'll never run out of space on your phone.
iCloud requires a constant internet connection, and that takes up GB of my plan.

Wake me up when carriers catch up with the tech and don't charge over €25 for a measly 1GB of data.
 
16GB lol.

Apple please. There has to be at least one sane person who thought "we can't ship 16GB phones" inside those walls, right? RIGHT?

Oh please there are millions upon millions where 16gb is just fine and affordable. Obviously there is a demand for low storage phones.

Me, I always get the biggest possible storage available at the time because that's my needs.
 
While I get the message you're trying to relay, it made me chuckle a bit. While I understand why Apple does this I would never bravely say in an open forum that I support their decision. :D
If Apple thought they could sell even more iphones and raise the prices 50% they would and I would support that. Apple priority is profit for their shareholders. Do people think that Apple is happy selling the iPad mini 4 for 399$ considering it cost more to make that the 128GB iphone 6s+? If Apple could sell an ipad for mni for $899 they would, but they can't since sale are declining.
 
Research firms are more informed than you are.

https://gigaom.com/2015/01/23/personal-photos-videos-user-generated-content-statistics/

The average iOS user takes over 2000 photos a year. Thats more than the 16 GB 6S can hold in Live photos. Research firms are quite educated in gleaning the most accurate data they can.

So Apple would sell less 32 GB iPhones (priced the same as the current 16GB model). Thats literally the craziest thing I've heard in a while.

Let me remind you that an extra 16GB of storage doesn't suddenly make basic users go buy another phone brand.

Your using the wrong stat. I could take 2000 photos per month but if i delete 90% of them it doesn't matter. Even that link which I don't think is going to be representative says that they only keep around 630 photos on their phone which would fit fine on a 16GB phone.

Its obviously not going to fit people who take lots of photos but then you buy a bigger phone.
 
OK, 16GB iPhone 6S on iOS 9 (13GB available space) will allow:

30 minutes of 4K video
or
60 minutes of 1080p/60fps video
or
100 minutes of 1080p/30fps video
or
215 minutes of 720p/30fps video
or
4000 12MP photos
or
2000 12MP "Live Photos"

All approximate of course, but they're all in the ballpark.

Sources:
http://cdn.iphonehacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/iPhone-6s-4K-video-size-1024x558.png
http://memorycardcalculator.com/
That's cool BUT your not taking into consideration that imessages and all the photos and videos inside those iMessages that are taking up space on your phone then there is the OTHER that takes up space then all the apps you download and all the cache space from those apps as well as cache space for Internet, music space etc.... So in realty your getting a lot less of your figures above.
 
If Apple thought they could sell even more iphones and raise the prices 50% they would and I would support that. Apple priority is profit for their shareholders. Do people think that Apple is happy selling the iPad mini 4 for 399$ considering it cost more to make that the 128GB iphone 6s+? If Apple could sell an ipad for mni for $899 they would, but they can't since sale are declining.
You sound like companies having shareholders as a priority is a good thing. Once a company loses customer loyalty and and starts to lose profits, shareholders are going to jump ship. Looking out for shareholders while neglecting the customers is a short sighted strategy.
 
The way Apple pitch their products is such that they are very simple to use/learn and that you don’t have to. These are supposed to be phones that your granny can use.
Yes, and they are.

I envision a situation where the snap happy grannies and moms fill up their 16GB iPhones swiftly, only to find it crashing or throwing an error message. This is not going to make them happy.

Yet the flip side, is if word gets out, many who can easily afford it will buy higher capacity iPhones which plays right into Apples master plan.

It's good to be Apple. .. :D
 
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You sound like companies having shareholders as a priority is a good thing. Once a company loses customer loyalty and and starts to lose profits, shareholders are going to jump ship. Looking out for shareholders while neglecting the customers is a short sighted strategy.
That is correct and look what happened with the iPhone 6 and 6+ average selling price went up. If sales decline, Apple will be the first to know and the 16GB will be discontinued and will drop the price of the others. If Apple made a mistake, I bet they would know before they even ship their first Iphone 6s.
 
It's his/her opinion. Doesn't have to be the same as someone else's.

If "Sticking Together" means agreeing with each other and not having a backbone to voice your own opinion on a matter then the answer is no. That's just plain silly.

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Sure sure.

But anyone voices opinion against the 16Gb is thrashed and responded accordingly.
Seriously keep me out of this bickering the next time, okay?
 
If Apple thought they could sell even more iphones and raise the prices 50% they would and I would support that. Apple priority is profit for their shareholders. Do people think that Apple is happy selling the iPad mini 4 for 399$ considering it cost more to make that the 128GB iphone 6s+? If Apple could sell an ipad for mni for $899 they would, but they can't since sale are declining.

By the look of this post, either you're an Apple employee or I'm being severely pranked. I can't see anyone saying any of this with a straight face. :eek:
 
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Sure sure.

But anyone voices opinion against the 16Gb is thrashed and responded accordingly.
Seriously keep me out of this bickering the next time, okay?

Opinions don't matter, the only thing that matters is to vote with your wallet. If enough people vote with their wallet Apple will change its way.
 
The funniest thing about all this is that it's set to "on" by default, so people who buy a 16GB will be wondering how the fell their phone filled up in a couple weeks
Setting something to OFF by default is also counterproductive from a customer standpoint. Not everyone digs down into the menus of everything they buy to see every small feature. Besides if you think setting to ON by default was a ploy on Apple's part to get people to upgrade, keep in mind it's set to ON for all models. Wow some of you guys think there's a conspiracy from Apple on everything they do.
 
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Sure sure.

But anyone voices opinion against the 16Gb is thrashed and responded accordingly.
Seriously keep me out of this bickering the next time, okay?
Hmm, terrible memory have you? Uh, you brought this up first. Did you forget that you were questioning someone as to why they are defending Apple, suggesting that they must have shares in the company? You started the bickering. If you don't want a debate then simply don't post in the first place.
 
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