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By the look of this post, either you're an Apple employee or I'm being severely pranked. I can't see anyone saying any of this with a straight face. :eek:
I don't even own a share. I have a 2012 Mac Mini, I would have got a new one but Apple messed up the 2014 Mac mini. I have a 2012 MBA, my 10 year old son uses my old iPhone 4s, and my daughter uses the iPad mini. I recently upgraded to an Lg G3 from a Nexus 5. Between the ****** Canadian dollar and Apple's greed lately, I'm not sure if I will continue to use Apple products in the near future.
 
Hmm, terrible memory have you? Uh, you brought this up first. Did you forget? If you don't want a debate then simply don't post in the first place.
Alright then Henry, I see you talk a lot.
And I get it that you're much elder to me and I wanted to be as nice and rather respectful but Jesus you're talking about everyone having their own opinion and then showing your own opinion on to them.
*Sigh* too tired for this.

Just leave it would you? Regardless I wasn't talking to you in the discussion either and I left hours ago.
 
I don't even own a share. I have a 2012 Mac Mini, I would have got a new one but Apple messed up the 2014 Mac mini. I have a 2012 MBA, my 10 year old son uses my old iPhone 4s, and my daughter uses the iPad mini. I recently upgraded to an Lg G3 from a Nexus 5. Between the ****** Canadian dollar and Apple's greed lately, I'm not sure if I will continue to use Apple products in the near future.

I'm very confused with your post reply because I never asked you if you owned any shares of the company. It's interesting you're now calling Apple greedy followed by you not being sure you will continue to use their products because just moments ago you said if they could get away with selling their products for 50% higher you would support that? Hmm. You're contradicting yourself. Okay I'm done with this one.
 
I'm very confused with your post reply because I never asked you if you owned any shares of the company. It's interesting you're now calling Apple greedy followed by you not being sure you will continue to use their products because just moments ago you said if they could get away with selling their products for 50% higher you would support that? Hmm. You're contradicting yourself. Okay I'm done with this one.
You forgot the IF part, So if Apple thought they could, they would, just not with me. I still see value on the Mac side of things on the phone side I will probably not return to iOS for a while. There is also the fact that I really hate windows and will pay a little premium to use a mac, with iOS i'm not will to pay double or triple to use a product that is slightly better.
 
There is a settings selection. What I'm unclear on is how easy it is to turn it back on. I'll probably turn it off and never look back lol

I'll assume you didn't watch the Keynote. The button to toggle Live Photos function is in the camera application at the top where the HDR and auto flash buttons are.
 
Then buy a phone with more storage!! If the iPhone doesn't work for you then get something else!!

What the hell is wrong with all the people on the forum. People literally are acting personally offended that apple has a 16GB OPTION!!! No one is forcing you to buy it!!

Personally I have a 128 but use less than 1/3 the space. Bought a 16 for my mother and she's just fine with it because it suits her use-case. There are people with different use-cases *gasp*.

Would love to have come to a forum that actually talked about the feature highlighted in the article but it's almost impossible to sift through all these entitled d-bags whining because apple produced something they aren't required to buy....

But most people I know have very low data plans in the neighborhood of 1GB a month. Not everyone has access to unlimited data on the go especially if you're on vacation somewhere.
 
I agree they've lost love from some of the stalwarts who stayed with them through their darker years; people who were in fact customers but who believed themselves to be champions of a feisty underdog. But with the iPhone, that underdog is long gone. Apple might have lost some love, but man: they've gained all the cash.

The reason I'm so addicted to this site is to read the passionate views of the majority - the devotees who haven't gone anywhere and who still believe Apple's success depends on their passion. What other business has that kind of customer? I might like the car I drive, but I certainly don't care what you drive. Yet if I have an iPhone, there's a good chance I care very much that you have one, too. I might question your intellect or morals if you disagree. Even when profit margin is undeniably out of proportion to any competing product, a real fan remains needful and pays up happily.

That's the magic, and more important than love lost.

... It seems like Apple has lost a lot of 'love' in recent years through little things like this, not to mention the declining reliability of software. (I've been an Apple customer a long time, and I've never witnessed a period of more frustration and bugginess.)
 
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At this point, I have to believe that the 16GB is aimed squarely at businesses and the naive. It is nice that $.99/month now buys you 50GB of iCloud storage, but buyers of the 16GB should be warned that they will almost certainly be dependent on iCloud storage to effectively use their phones. Or maybe Apple could up the free tier from 5GB. Something... anything to make a 16GB phone sane.

I still have over 8GB free on my 16GB phone.
 
If I get twice the storage space occupied in a shot, I'd rather have twice the resolution and clarity rather than the excess stored being surrounding video. It's kind of like the imposition of Apple's idea of what constitutes a Kodak moment in every pic you take. Might as well get auto-inserted musical accompaniment ... Oops!

So turn off the feature...

Microsoft: I thing I already saw this thing before...

Jarringly short 1 second of motion that's not smooth and shows clear artifacting when their arms or legs move. Hopefully Apple's 3 seconds will be better done.
 
iCloud requires a constant internet connection, and that takes up GB of my plan.

Wake me up when carriers catch up with the tech and don't charge over €25 for a measly 1GB of data.

Ouch. I feel for you Europeans. No idea why data is so expensive over there.
 
I don't even own a share. I have a 2012 Mac Mini, I would have got a new one but Apple messed up the 2014 Mac mini. I have a 2012 MBA, my 10 year old son uses my old iPhone 4s, and my daughter uses the iPad mini. I recently upgraded to an Lg G3 from a Nexus 5. Between the ****** Canadian dollar and Apple's greed lately, I'm not sure if I will continue to use Apple products in the near future.

Apple premium + 25% extra for a devalued currency is reducing my enthusiasm for upgrades right now as well. But I usually keep my devices for longer than most people anyway. I can't justify the 6s, while already having the 6, but if I had anything else, it would be a solid proposition. The 6 is so good, I'll be happy until the 7 or 7s.

I get what you're saying about the Mac mini. The same happened with the recent MacBook update, I ended up going with an older MacBook Air instead. We have the iPad mini too, and I was planning on getting the iPad mini 3 when it pushed out the mini 2 as the bottom one, but then it got dropped and the mini 2 stayed there, and you need a mini 4 for the full multitasking in iOS 9. So now I'm just sticking with the iPad mini until either the Air 2 or mini 4 (that can multitask) drops to the low price point.

Really, my issue is that I want the second tier hardware, due to my budget and the Canadian dollar, but want to feel that it can do all of the important software features. I get that I'll always miss out on something like TouchID, live photos or pencil support. But something important like multitasking, would suck to miss out on. Like, I wonder what Apple will do in place of 3D Touch on older iPhones. If we can long press, than cool, but if we just can't do anything similar and miss out on the software functionality too, then that sucks.
 
15,000+ photos and you're complaining about only having 16GB? Maybe invest on the 128GB if you intend to keep that much photos in your phone. Just sayin'

I don't want to keep them on my phone, that's the whole point of iCloud Photos, right? I have them in the cloud (put them in there with my Mac). But now I cannot enable the freaking feature on my iPhone because the Optimize Storage feature cannot deal with that many photos. But instead of giving a warning, it just keeps filling up my phone, and giving errors when I try to view a photo. The result: a library of 5GB on my phone and i cannot see 80% of my pictures because of error messages.
 
NOPE! Live Photos ain't Living Pictures and vice versa. Concept IS similar, but execution is totally different.

No one really cares how its being achieved. The fact is result is the same.[/QUOTE]

But isn't that the whole point about how you can easily distinguish between the two. I mean Living Pictures looks more like short videos, almost GIF like, as they play automatically whereas Live Photos look and act like photos (you can even use them as your lock screen and make them work from there) until you use force touch.
 
Cheapskates, eh? Why don't you come over here to Europe to check how much we pay for even the smallest capacity iPhones, especially after the latest price increases for the 6s generation? It's not a question of being a cheapskate or not but more a question of buying bloody expensive versus ridiculously expensive.

What the hell? I don't have any pity for you as that's your problem not mine. Prices here aren't sweet like roses either, but I make sure I have the funds for the tech I really want. I'm always saving here and there and therefore I can afford the phone I want. I actually start saving once I purchase the non-"s" series iphone for the next non-"s" series iPhone. I get two years to save up and always skip the "s" series.
 
Hmm sounds a lot like the feature the S5 had. Not what I would call innovating but instead it's adding Android features to iOS.
or exactly the same as on the HTC one m7 the year before.. nothing new, until you start being bombarded by ifans slavering over this new innovation..
 
Sigh...

No really no. I just don't see how people can justify Apple in this.

I couldn't give a flying damn about myself and the 6S, for me there is no 4 inch model so its next to useless. I'm talking about the broader scheme of things. All the people who will buy the 16GB and end up with a sub par product because Apple is not focused on customer experience anymore.

Not everyone lives in the US. Plenty of non US countries now have even more overpriced iPhones. Glad to know you only really care about Apple's product margins, rather than a good user experience for us as customers.

Quality of experience varies from user to user. If only having 16 GB of storage creates a bad user experience, than that user purchased the wrong model as that model is not intended for those who take tons of photos and videos. The OS is really what determines the quality of a user's experience and it's something you cannot change. At least with the hardware, you have the option of purchasing more storage.

I'm not defending Apple. There is nothing to defend. It is not their job to please everyone. It is not possible to please everyone. I don't care about Apple's profit margins. Don't buy it if it bothers you that much. Buy a different phone with expandable storage. Don't buy another Apple product ever again, see if I care.
 
What the hell? I don't have any pity for you as that's your problem not mine. Prices here aren't sweet like roses either, but I make sure I have the funds for the tech I really want. I'm always saving here and there and therefore I can afford the phone I want. I actually start saving once I purchase the non-"s" series iphone for the next non-"s" series iPhone. I get two years to save up and always skip the "s" series.

It's not like I couldn't afford the iPhone 6S if I wanted to. Being able to afford something does not prevent me from identifying when I'm being gouged for features that should be there in the first place for the price. My 64GB iPhone 6 should serve me quite well until the iPhone 7 arrives. Let's see if Apple has come to their senses by then. But if an interesting and good enough Android comes up in the meantime, there's not much holding me back especially when features like Apple Pay never seem to become available here.
 
I know I'm late to the comments party with this one so it has probably already been said before, but wow. They said in the keynote that they engineered it so that it doesn't use much storage space. But double the size of a 12mp JPG? That's just crazy. That being said I'll probably leave it on since I have a 128GB device with iCloud Photo storage, but RIP in pieces to all the 16GB owners.

I also want to know how well the playback is when swiping between those photos when they're all in iCloud library? You'd think the animation wouldn't be smooth when quickly flipping if the animation itself is as large as the image file—and only a smaller cached version of the image file is available when iCloud Photo library is turned on.
 
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HDR is not ON by default. You can turn it on yourself, but normally it will turn on only when the conditions are right.

Live Photos and HDR is nowhere in the same neighborhood.
HDR is on auto by default, meaning the camera turns it on whenever it considers it to be necessary. The point being that Apple has added features in the past that increased the storage needs. Another example would be the retina screen in the iPhone 4 which increased the size of apps (and the OS) needing higher resolution graphical assets. The iPhone 4 also had a higher resolution camera, which again required more space.

Heck, I wonder why you didn't complain about the move from 8 to 12 MP (in particular since that size increase cannot be switched off, whereas that of the 'live photos' can).
 
Yes yes, shift the blame from Apple onto consumers. This would not be an issue if the base phone was 32GB.

Not everyone is made of money and $150 is a lot of money. The iPhone is over priced to hell here so why should users have to pay for upgrades (also priced to hell) when they shouldn't need to .
I guess unless Apple turns into a non-profit, your argument that they could sell things cheaper will always stand.
 
Due to the decreased size of iOS 9, smaller app sizes and also methods such as automatic app deletion/reinstallation for updates mean that 16GB this year actually is much more than last year's 16GB.

If 16GB isn't enough just get 64GB. It's not complicated...
Good luck convincing your company to give you an upgraded work phone instead of the bottom spec even if you are paying for its difference...
 
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