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Apple's Live Photos Take Up About 2x Space of Normal Images
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Exactly, I really don't get it... How can you create a device that shoots 4K video and live photos. put 16GB in it... What kind of a marketing trick is that?!
I for one am happy offers a lower cost entry level iPhone.
Clearly those bitching about it haven't considered all the use cases and the customers that these phones actually make sense for. Not everyone uses these phones for things that must be stored on them.
In my case, my disabled 73 year old dad has a 16g iPhone. I'm glad we saved $100 on it. It only gets upgraded when the old version no longer works.
With his disabilities it's much easier for him to use a touch screen handheld than a real computer.
-He doesn't take pictures or video.
-He doesn't use Apple maps
-Doesn't use any apps at all really except one for the latest sports scores and the weather.
What he can do, that makes life worth living for an old disabled guy is what's important!!
-FaceTime with his grand daughter!
-View shared photo albums from the family
-See what friends and family are doing on Facebook.
-listen to his small music collection or streaming radio.
-surf the Internet
-watch YouTube
-get text messages
............for me...........I can check in on his location to keep track of him and make sure he is safe!!!! The iphone gives him an added sense of freedom thinking his caregivers aren't always checking in on him!
For many people there is a LOT an iPhone can do that doesn't require storage. Get over your cheap selves. If YOU need more then pony up and buy more. But there are people out there, lots of them, that do just fine with the cheaper phone and are thankful for it.
Clearly those bitching about it haven't considered all the use cases and the customers that these phones actually make sense for. Not everyone uses these phones for things that must be stored on them.
In my case, my disabled 73 year old dad has a 16g iPhone. I'm glad we saved $100 on it. It only gets upgraded when the old version no longer works.
With his disabilities it's much easier for him to use a touch screen handheld than a real computer.
-He doesn't take pictures or video.
-He doesn't use Apple maps
-Doesn't use any apps at all really except one for the latest sports scores and the weather.
What he can do, that makes life worth living for an old disabled guy is what's important!!
-FaceTime with his grand daughter!
-View shared photo albums from the family
-See what friends and family are doing on Facebook.
-listen to his small music collection or streaming radio.
-surf the Internet
-watch YouTube
-get text messages
............for me...........I can check in on his location to keep track of him and make sure he is safe!!!! The iphone gives him an added sense of freedom thinking his caregivers aren't always checking in on him!
For many people there is a LOT an iPhone can do that doesn't require storage. Get over your cheap selves. If YOU need more then pony up and buy more. But there are people out there, lots of them, that do just fine with the cheaper phone and are thankful for it.
I never said anyone was forcing me. Still finding it laughable that people are justifying Apple putting profit margins before every single other thing.
The 16GB model should exist, but it should NOT cost as much as the current one does. The point is that either Apple should just sell a 32GB model instead of the 16 at the same price, or put the price of the 16 down and introduce the 32 at the old 16 price.
Nobody is asking apple to get rid of their cheapest price tier.
You can't compare a free phone on contract to buying a phone outright.
The LG G3 costs $700 CAN outright, not "free".
The people who choose (yes, it's a choice) to assemble these devices make significantly more (like 2-3x) than their other employment options.
Big profits mean a big incentive to make high-quality gadgets people are willing to pay a high price for.
"A thing is worth exactly what another is willing to pay for it." Yeah, my iPhone is worth what I paid for it (more actually, being an iOS app developer).
That's just the game you have to play, but no one is forcing you to play. As I said, I'd still go middle tier even if it was 32GB base model. I'm just glad middle tier is 64 and not 32, which it still could have very easily been. At least Apple have given us that.
I think the 16GB 6S is there because the 6 is no longer sold in gold. Since gold is the most popular color, and Apple knows that the 6 & 6 Plus will heavily cannibalize from the 6S for the average customer, they wanted to make the gold 6S affordable (well, at least a premium upgrade). Otherwise 16GB makes no sense for anyone who is specifically buying the 6S for the cameras, video and photos. And let's face it what else is there in this update that will be meaningful to the average customer at this time? As these phones are virtually build to order, offering 16GB internals across all three colors is simple. But I'd be surprised if stores stocked many other than gold.
People specifically buying the 6S for the cameras will surely know enough to get 128GB. But I suspect, other than those going for the gold, Apple will continue to sell a LOT of the 6 series. For $100 less, and negligible differences, most people would be foolish to spring for a 6S, especially if they opt for the 16GB model.
One thing is for sure, it will be interesting to see how quickly they sell out and ship times slip for the various configurations.
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They're still drastically underpaid.
My god a slight reduction in Profit margins that will be offset by higher sales will not stop apple from making a good phone. a 32 GB phone at the 16GB price point would make it an even higher quality phone.
Vine.com and related services (video equivalent of Twitter, limiting to a few seconds) show it's actually kinda popular. Harry Potter has gotten the general populace exposed to the idea of "moving photos". Innumerable photos have been ruined/missed because the single frame was taken a fraction of a second too soon/late; this gets the moment regardless of shutter release time.
If nothing else, the "gimmick" is there if you want it, and you can shut it off. Why not try it out?
nope it was free the subsidized price was 360$ they gave me 100$ credit on top and I got a 200$ giftcard at walmart to sign up. I also got a 25$ referral credit so in the end it was 35$. On top of this my plan is 35$ a month, if I got the iphone I would be paying 85$ a month for the same plan and would have to put 500$ down. it would cost me 2000$ more over 2 years to have an iphone. The tax rate is 15% 40.25$ vs 97.75$ is just the difference in monthly service.
Haha, yes that too! Except it would be a lot harder for me once I have a few thousand Apple shares.
To be fair, I am envious of Apple and I mean just look at some who'd willingly spend up to 200$ just thinking it's an upgrade. Plus those defending that Apple should be allowed to mooch off its customers but with less direct words lol.
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iPhone is a great device, my 4S worked for years and got me hooked.
I only have a problem with the the storage, and yet more often than not when I don't defend Apple, I'm asked to go over to android running devices.
My Canon G16 has a similar feature, which takes 5 seconds of video prior to taking the photo and puts it together as a photo story thing and its actually quite awesome especially for Photos, but this implementation is not as good, so I do feel while cool, a little pointless.
Fair enough, but still that's a specific deal. Also iPhones are expensive, everyone knows that, but it's worth it. That's why they're so popular despite the outlay.
The same applies to HDR or bust mode. But I see that you already moved the goalposts from 'How dare they add a feature that everybody is forced to use' to 'How dare they enable a feature by default'.
If I were an Apple stock holder, I would have a much better forum available to me to address such issues.
How am I defending Apple? I simply stated what many others have stated on the subject -- no one is forcing anyone to buy the 16GB iPhone. And to say that it is unfair of Apple to keep this as the entry level model is childish and shows a real lack of perspective.
I'd say they truly missed an opportunity here to offer a 256GB option. 4K video, 12MP photos, and motion photos? There's no question people who know what they're doing would have jumped at it ... Even if only on the S Plus. This would have also addressed a true iPod Classic replacement, giving customers over 160GB of music storage, with a significantly useable amount of space left for the iPhone features.
And yet they still want to rip us off with a 16GB model. And I have to get the 16GB model because I'm getting the 6S Plus and am paying it in full for 750 dollars off the Apple Store. I stream music with Spotify anyways and don't play games on a phone. So I should be ok until the iPhone 7. But 32GB should be the minimum, it's not like they offer expandable storage.
People can afford a $1000 phone current model phone but cannot afford a $1100 phone? What about an iPhone 6 from last year with 64 GB of storage for $1000?
I am by no means defending that argument, however, he has a point.
These are cumulatively short-sighted decisions by Apple, and they will eventually have to deal with frustrated and angry customers because of it.
I've seen this in person, a friend bought a new iPhone 5C coming from the Android platform, and discovered they were missing calls because the phone wasn't ringing. But it was happening intermittently. They were bashing Apple and stormed off angrily to the Apple Store, only to find out they had been accidentally flipping the mute switch. And I don't give the average customer much more credit than that.
The Apple Store can be a "magical" experience, but it's a little short on education unless a customer knows what questions to ask. Hopefully Apple will be a little better under these circumstances.